LOL

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/200106surveillancelegal.htm

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"Justice: Domestic surveillance legal BOB DEANS Cox News Service January 20 2006 WASHINGTON — Preparing for a possible showdown over domestic surveillance without a warrant, the Bush administration Thursday called on the Justice Department and Vice President Dick Cheney to mount their most spirited defense yet of the practice. Eavesdropping without a warrant on calls between people in this country and suspected terrorists overseas is a legal and "indispensable" part of safeguarding the nation against future attacks, the Department of Justice asserted, claiming the practice does not violate Constitutionally protected civil liberties. President Bush has broken no laws in ordering the National Security Agency to conduct selected wiretaps without warrants, the DOJ argued. On the contrary, Bush has acted fully within his authority as the commander-in-chief of a nation at war and the "sole organ" for the conduct of U.S. foreign policy, the Justice Department stated in a 42-page white paper on the issue."

You see, when we're at war, the Presidant can do anything--including violating our constitutional rights--in the name of "fighting the enemy or conducting the war policy."

And let's put this monumental lie in perspective to some of the previous lies:

Bush: "We don't torture"
Bush Administration: ""We didn't mislead nation on Iraq intelligence"
Rumsfeld: "I Didn't Advocate Invasion"
Rumsfeld: "The Bush Administration never said Iraq was an immediate threat"
Bush Administration: "Iraq has WMDs and presents an immediate threat!"

1/20/2006 10:26:50 AM

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 3:10 PM. Reason : asfd]

1/20/2006 10:32:31 AM

asdf

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 3:10 PM. Reason : don't be a pain in the ass]

1/20/2006 10:38:40 AM

hahahaha LOL ^winz

1/20/2006 10:40:24 AM

asfd

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 3:10 PM. Reason : don't be a pain in the ass]

1/20/2006 10:42:15 AM

on a only slighty more serious note, why should we worry about the small powers of the christian president when its so little compared that of the ruling jews? how can you view both as a problem (unless bush is somehow an instrument of the jews, or vice versa). being one of the few true conservatives I hope you can enlighten me.

1/20/2006 10:43:00 AM

^ splendid point

1/20/2006 10:43:50 AM

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/200106Cheney_spy.htm

Quote :

"Cheney: Spy program key to terror war AP January 20 2006 Vice President Dick Cheney defended the Bush administration's domestic surveillance program Thursday, calling it an essential tool in monitoring al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations. But Cheney stressed the program was limited in scope and had been conducted in a way that safeguarded civil liberties. "A spirit of debate is now under way, and our message to the American people is clear and straightforward: These actions are within the president's authority and responsibility under the Constitution and laws, and these actions are vital to our security," Cheney said in a luncheon speech at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank."

See, violating your civil liberties "safeguards your civil liberties"!

Ahhhh, good stuff. Ok, sure Cheney's flat-out lying when he says that spying in violation of the constitution is "whithin the presiden't's authority" and "safeguards civil liberties."

But don't you see people?! It's "an essential tool" in teh war against tha terra'ists! It's for your own "security." So what if it's illegal and violates your rights? You have to give up your liberties so that we can fight the terra'ists and guarantee the security of the nation. And if they have to turn the country into a surveillance/police state, then hey, that's just what they have to do to protect us from al-CIA-duh.

1/20/2006 10:45:12 AM

asdf

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 3:11 PM. Reason : don't be a pain in the ass]

1/20/2006 10:46:52 AM

Quote :

"unless bush is somehow an instrument of the jews"

bingo

1/20/2006 10:47:14 AM

asdf

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 3:11 PM. Reason : don't be a pain in the ass]

1/20/2006 10:47:32 AM

IT'S A JOOSPIRACY!

1/20/2006 10:49:11 AM

^^^how is it that jews took control of our gov again?

And I hope my Swiss of David can spread to other threads.

1/20/2006 10:51:58 AM

haha, swiss of david. Cheesus, that's hilarious.

1/20/2006 10:53:26 AM

haha, Cheesus

1/20/2006 11:56:38 AM

asdf

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 3:11 PM. Reason : don't be a pain in the ass]

1/20/2006 12:03:24 PM

It's interesting how salisburyboy is the only one here trying to have a serious discussion. While many others just flood. Then they will create another thread about how salisburyboy needs to be banned, then another. All in the name of preserving the quality of debate in SB. Nice.

1/20/2006 12:12:21 PM

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"Bush has acted fully within his authority as the commander-in-chief of a nation at war "

when did congress declare war? i think i was in the can.

1/20/2006 12:14:54 PM

"salisburyboy" and "serious" do not belong in the same sentence.

1/20/2006 12:15:08 PM

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"It's interesting how salisburyboy is the only one here trying to have a serious discussion."

Wrong. He's trying to have a discussion about how the jews are taking over the earth and he's spamming prisonplanet articles.

Quote :

"While many others just flood. Then they will create another thread about how salisburyboy needs to be banned, then another."

Correct. Because we're tired of his incessant ravings about the "evil jews". For me, its 50% giving him his own medicine and 50% trying to illustrate to the non-existent moderator how annoying this is to the rest of us.

Quote :

"All in the name of preserving the quality of debate in SB."

Damn right.

1/20/2006 12:18:07 PM

mathfreak:

1/20/2006 12:19:15 PM

Quote :

"It's interesting how salisburyboy is the only one here trying to have a serious discussion. While many others just flood. Then they will create another thread about how salisburyboy needs to be banned, then another. All in the name of preserving the quality of debate in SB. Nice."

1/20/2006 12:21:18 PM

1/20/2006 12:21:54 PM

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""salisburyboy" and "serious" do not belong in the same sentence."

1/20/2006 12:22:16 PM

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"Wrong. He's trying to have a discussion about how the jews are taking over the earth and he's spamming prisonplanet articles."

No, his thread is about the way the DOJ rationalizes what Bush does. Learn some English.

1/20/2006 12:23:51 PM

Quote :

"Correct. Because we're tired of his incessant ravings about the "evil jews". For me, its 50% giving him his own medicine and 50% trying to illustrate to the non-existent moderator how annoying this is to the rest of us. "

Riiiiiiiiight.

Like I've ever pic-bombed a thread. Pic-bombing threads IS a valid reason for suspending someone.

Talking about the influence of Jews is NOT a valid reason to suspend anyone--regardless of the small minority of those who may find it "annoying" or strongly disagree with that view.

1/20/2006 12:30:33 PM

Quote :

"Bush has acted fully within his authority as the commander-in-chief of a nation at war "

when did congress declare war? i think i was in the can.

1/20/2006 12:31:32 PM

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"Talking about the influence of Jews is NOT a valid reason to suspend anyone"

then you shouldn't have any problem with us talking about the influence of CHEESELUMINATI

1/20/2006 1:04:04 PM

seriously
now he knows what it feels like to have a discussion that breaks into some foolish argument about cheese

OH BUT HE GON KEEP PLUGGING AWAY

1/20/2006 1:06:43 PM

he's even more committed to distracting us from the cheesy truth now that we've begun exposing the REAL facts

[Edited on January 20, 2006 at 1:08 PM. Reason : s]

1/20/2006 1:08:13 PM

the best part of the conspiracy is

if we ever were to bring it down
we could totally grate it down and make dip for nachos

1/20/2006 1:10:00 PM

now you've gone too far. ... i have a shelter out in western NC you can hide in if the pressure gets too hot

1/20/2006 1:12:01 PM

If anyone out there still doubts the facts, I recommend this book:

1/20/2006 1:15:43 PM

^gg
you can also uncover the truth of the relationship between the Bible and Cheese at http://www.alltooflat.com/serious/cheese/

^^
unless NC stands for "no cheese"

no dice

[Edited on January 20, 2006 at 1:16 PM. Reason : its serious]

1/20/2006 1:15:49 PM

you know, folks, this particular thread IS pertinent to an actual serious situation.

granted, he posted a prisonplanet link, but the story is true

[Edited on January 20, 2006 at 1:17 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2006 1:17:21 PM

Yes, it is a legit topic.

And it was ruined by silly babbling about conspiracies.

hmmmm

1/20/2006 1:19:03 PM

Quote :

"granted, he posted a prisonplanet link, but the story is true"

And the prisonplanet article links to (OMG!..) a "mainstream" news article

1/20/2006 1:19:24 PM

that was what i was trying to say, basically.

if you posted more links to "mainstream" articles, you'd catch less flack.

1/20/2006 1:20:42 PM

exactly

IF THE PRISONPLANET LINK LINKS US TO A MSM SOURCE

WHY NOT JUST FUCKING LINK THE MSM SOURCE

1/20/2006 1:21:50 PM

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"Yes, it is a legit topic. And it was ruined by silly babbling about conspiracies"

ITS ALMOST LIKE THAT IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF THE CHEESE DISCUSSION

1/20/2006 1:22:50 PM

DING DING DING

1/20/2006 1:26:45 PM

^^ What was the point? To show that you don't like the smell of the poop, you took a dump at your innocent neighbor's porch? Wow. If I didn't already know you were an idiot, I might be surprised.

1/20/2006 1:30:55 PM

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"Yes, it is a legit topic. And it was ruined by silly babbling about conspiracies""

BUT when I talk about Zionist Conspiracies, I'm talking about a topic:

1. that I at least actually believe is legitimate, as opposed to a contrived conspiracy like the cheese conspiracy that was created as a farce
2. that actually has substance to it
3. in threads that are related to the topic
4. in a respectful manner, as opposed to pic-bombing and intentionally harassing posts



so who is it that deserves to be suspended again?

[Edited on January 20, 2006 at 1:32 PM. Reason : `]

1/20/2006 1:31:05 PM

1. Your conspiracy theories are bunk.
2. The substance behind them is bunk.
3. You nearly turned a thread about the public education system into a zionist conspiracy thread. YES, we realize that Jews control everything. This doesn't mean that everything relates to the Jews.
4. You're a poop head.

1/20/2006 1:34:02 PM

Yeah, if you kept your rambling in your own threads, maybe we'd lay off. But that whole Education thread was nearly thrown into the abyss. I don't even feel safe posting topics on here any more.

Quote :

"No, his thread is about the way the DOJ rationalizes what Bush does"

His subject is legitimate in this one case. However, his sources aren't.

I could post a topic about the most serious thing in the universe, but if the articles I showed you on it were from the Onion...well...

1/20/2006 2:27:37 PM

you'll notice

i never posted the word "cheese" until he shat on a thread about the education system

1/20/2006 2:48:09 PM

Yes ^

The education thread pissed a lot of us off and that's when the cheese started. That's when I posted the ban salisburyboy thread. His jewish conspiracy theories in that thread were unnecessary.

You fuck our threads up, how does it feel to have your "legitimate" threads fucked up?



say...................... CHEESE!

[Edited on January 20, 2006 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2006 2:53:16 PM

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"I don't even feel safe posting topics on here any more. "

what an effing joke

oh, you poor baby.

look. at least what I posted in the education thread was related to the topic, and I was trying to have a serious discussion. AND, it was SOMEONE ELSE who turned the discussion into the religiuos nature of the government and whether Jesus was a Jew. NOT ME. Go back and read the thread.

HERE, these guys are pic-bombing the thread and posting complete nonsense that is totally unrelated to the topic. if anyone should be afraid of posting a topic, it's ME

but you don't see me bitchin and whinin about it and actin like a bitch trying to get people suspended

you guys are pathetic

[Edited on January 20, 2006 at 2:55 PM. Reason : `]

1/20/2006 2:53:50 PM

you have no idea what pic bombing is, apparently.

you sure do act like a little bitch when people post in the same manner that you do.

[Edited on January 20, 2006 at 3:00 PM. Reason : *]

1/20/2006 3:00:29 PM

^^

Quote :

"ya know the sword is double edged, maybe you should learn that and face the fact that all you are is a hyprocrite, among other things. 1/17/2006 4:26:27 PM"

1/20/2006 3:02:40 PM