TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
Hoculi cost the Chargers a GAME...Joyce fucked up but Detroit still won
I'm not defending him, but its not like other sports are perfect, they all have some amount of human error 6/3/2010 9:29:02 AM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
^ the argument I have is that baseball prides itself on individual records and stats throughout its history. It's how the sport compares generations. NOT through wins/losses. 6/3/2010 9:40:06 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, I think Selig should do something about this
but we all know he won't 6/3/2010 9:41:56 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
oh shit supposedly Joyce is calling the DET/CLE game today 6/3/2010 9:52:05 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
The funny thing is. Had they used instant replay on that call alone the game wouldve been shorter.
And Bud doesn't have the stones to reverse this. 6/3/2010 11:15:56 AM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
if he had called him out and he had actually been safe (so he was awarded a perfect game that in fact should not have been a perfect game) there is NO WAY they would go back and take away the perfect game. 6/3/2010 11:20:26 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i'll get flamed for this, but who gives a fuck
after looking at the replay 5000 times, I can see why he may have thought there was a bobble. ball hit the palm, then rolled to the sno-cone position, then pitcher popped the ball out to reposition it 6/3/2010 11:20:38 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
The ump didn't say he bobbled it. He told Leland right after that he thought the runner was safe. Bobbling was never the call. Granted the ump couldve tried to save his ass by saying it was a bobble but the call was the runner beat the catch. 6/3/2010 11:28:03 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
the runner did beat the catch, since the catch wasn't made until the ball was secured in the mitt 6/3/2010 11:32:38 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
what 6/3/2010 11:54:46 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23249 Posts user info edit post |
in real life speed its REALLY close...if you look at the glove then at the foot like tehy are supposed to do, its REALLY REALLY close.
however, the ump has been doing this for 22 years. 6/3/2010 11:58:44 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Just give the kid the perfect game, Bud. 6/3/2010 12:02:32 PM |
Yao Ming All American 866 Posts user info edit post |
they just showed it again in slow motion on Sportscenter
only an idiot can dispute that call 6/3/2010 12:04:54 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "in real life speed its REALLY close..." |
Honestly, it wasn't really even that close. They make calls closer than that three or four times a game. It was an atrocious call and really an outrage. In my opinion, ANYTHING close in that situation should be given to the pitcher.6/3/2010 12:06:58 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I liked what Kurkijan said when asked whether Joyce should have given Galarraga the benefit of the doubt: don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt ever, just make the right call. 6/3/2010 12:16:03 PM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
i think part of it probably had something to do with his angle to the bag too. it's blatantly obvious when they show the replay from the side that the runner was out, but joyce was basically on the foul line. i guess umpires have to stand there to try to stay as far away from a batted ball as possible, but it certainly didn't help the call. it really was a bang bang play. 6/3/2010 12:16:56 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it really was a bang bang play." |
He was out by at least two feet
Nothing bang bang about it6/3/2010 12:17:43 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23249 Posts user info edit post |
you guys dont seem to understand.
you are TAUGHT as an umpire to look GLOVE first then bag. make sure the ball is in the glove then go straight to the bag.
in the amount of time it took for him to have the ball completely in the glove it makes it REALLLLLLLLLLLY close in real life.
in addition, the pitcher placed his foot on the back side of the bag, had it been on the front it would have been a little more obvious.
Glove then foot. watch it in real time speed and its closer than you think.
but then again, however, the guy has been doing it for 22 years like I said he has made closer calls than that everyday of his life. he should have gotten it right and he didnt.
he owned up to it, what else can you do? 6/3/2010 12:21:50 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i like bucky 6/3/2010 12:29:05 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
ncstatetke
look. If your not trolling, stop being an idiot. Everybody involved in the situation agreed the call was wrong. EVERYBODY. Stop trying to be devil's advocate for no reason. The current prediciment is how MLB should rectify the situation. 6/3/2010 12:30:33 PM |
Motiak All American 1497 Posts user info edit post |
I feel like there's too much complaining about the fact that the jinx worked. We put the jinx in, umpire made the call to destroy the perfect game as planned. 6/3/2010 12:38:32 PM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
If he had gotten a perfect game, Reggie Jackson was going to kill the queen
6/3/2010 1:11:01 PM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He was out by at least two feet
Nothing bang bang about it" |
safe or out, it was a split second between galarraga's foot and donald's foot hitting the bag. that basically constitutes a bang bang play. when you break it down to the ridiculous like this
it doesn't appear close at all. as people have said, joyce makes tougher calls all the time and should've made this one. i just don't think anyone can honestly watch the play in real time and not say that it was very close.6/3/2010 2:56:06 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23249 Posts user info edit post |
completely agreed^ 6/3/2010 2:57:27 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23249 Posts user info edit post |
completely agreed^ 6/3/2010 2:57:27 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Tigers started play at 1:05 pm today, with umpire Jim Joyce (the guy who blew the perfect-game call last night) scheduled to call balls and strikes. Joyce came onto the field with his crew, holding back tears. There's probably nobody more upset about what happened than him. Galarraga brought out the Tigers lineup card and shook hands with Joyce and the others gathered at home plate, in a place where all could see. Standing ovation from the crowd.
What happened last night was unfortunate. Everyone knows it. Galarraga and Joyce have handled this with an enormous amount of grace and dignity. An e-mailer pointed out that it's almost a blessing that Joyce messed up the call, because now everyone can see how grown ups are supposed to behave." |
6/3/2010 3:02:48 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
It was close in real time. 6/3/2010 3:02:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
some Chevy dealership gave Galarraga a 2010 Corvette convertible 6/3/2010 3:06:01 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Obama awarded him an honorary citizenship 6/3/2010 3:08:22 PM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
the governor of michigan declared it a perfect game 6/3/2010 3:10:06 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
dude looks like Tony Parker 6/3/2010 3:14:05 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
Selig not gonna overturn the call 6/3/2010 3:32:20 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
He's been invited to Buckingham Palace to be knighted 6/3/2010 3:40:23 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
He gets to bang Kendra. 6/3/2010 3:43:11 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
what a pussy
(bud selig, not kendra's) 6/3/2010 3:52:29 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Bud Selig is an asshole 6/3/2010 3:56:17 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Is pitching good this year or are teams just awful? 6/3/2010 4:35:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
thats the million dollar question 6/3/2010 4:37:36 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
teams are just awful. 6/3/2010 4:37:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
are the Rays awful?
cause Dallas fucking Braden threw a PG on them 6/3/2010 4:41:16 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
It's complete luck that 2 have been thrown so far (yes 2). Nothing more nothing less. 6/3/2010 6:12:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
*2 6/3/2010 6:15:25 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I wish some hardcore baseball researcher would watch the previous 20 perfect games to see how many times an ump blew a call that kept the perfection going. 6/3/2010 6:40:08 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
There have only been 20 in history, and most of them are probably not on film. 6/3/2010 6:49:44 PM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
^^ someone from baseball prospectus probably started doing that immediately after that call last night
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 6:50 PM. Reason : ^] 6/3/2010 6:50:26 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, Treetwista, the Rays are awful. Getting perfect gamed counts as like 5 losses. It was ridiculous. 6/3/2010 7:22:49 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
fuck you bud selig, that will be all 6/3/2010 7:35:03 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I don't care about games 50 years ago. The game last night was a perfect game fuck bud. Galaraga is my new favorite player. 6/4/2010 12:50:21 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Bud Selig can lick the shit out of my ass. 6/4/2010 1:03:31 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
unreal they wont reverse that.
Naturally, after hearing about this I assumed this was a super close call that the umpire just missed when you watch it in slow motion.
Then I see it wasn't even freaking close? Honestly, what in the flying fuck happened there....
I've never seen an umpire miss a call that wasn't close in my entire life. These guys make split second calls every day and almost never miss one and then suddenly he misses a routine play that a 35 year old t-ball volunteer dad could get right 100% of the time?
I think the situation just caused the guy's heart to skip a beat, eyes water, and brain seize up to the point where he just folded under the pressure. What a meltdown, inexplicable call...
[Edited on June 4, 2010 at 1:07 AM. Reason : how can you justify not reversing this as a commissioner. Bud Selig is a horrible human.] 6/4/2010 1:06:52 AM |