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He’s bad tonight. He’s been good most of the year.

Refs are doing the thing where they don’t call fouls in the first half and then call a lotta fouls in the second half. Always fun.

2/3/2021 10:18:34 PM

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I mean yeah UVA gets away with shit because "they are so good at D" but Huff should have 4/5 fouls already.

^I mean we probably win the Cuse game with him so whatever is going on is clearly detrimental.

2/3/2021 10:20:45 PM

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Fundy heard you talking shit

2/3/2021 10:22:33 PM

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"Funderburk should not have came back. Dude is unmotivated. What an absolute waste. Dude could be so good."


2/3/2021 10:25:41 PM

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Lol at the charge Funderburk just drew. I’ll take it. But it’s a prime example of why the charge call is so terrible and makes for bad basketball.

2/3/2021 10:27:23 PM

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^^He missed the last game for "University Policies" which translates to he was a dumbass

[Edited on February 3, 2021 at 10:32 PM. Reason : V Maybe Keatts should have recruited ACC caliber big men instead]

2/3/2021 10:28:23 PM

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I'm sure you'd rather have Ebenezer Dowuona play 30 minutes a game when Bates was hurt earlier this year

2/3/2021 10:29:43 PM

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I'm not going to argue with you, anyone can tell the dude doesn't give a shit. He should be averaging 16 and 8.

Huff should have about 8 fouls.

2/3/2021 10:30:49 PM

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He averages 12/5 in 23 mins/game.

In acc play he’s averaging 13.7 and 5.7 in 25 mins. I’m sorry he’s not scoring 2 more points and getting 2 more rebounds to reach your arbitrary 16/8 average.


He was suspended for one fucking game. That’s not ideal. But what does that have to do with your “he’s such a waste” comment?

[Edited on February 3, 2021 at 10:35 PM. Reason : Fundy heard you talking shit again]

2/3/2021 10:33:43 PM

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so Funderburk shouldn't have come back and is a waste, because Keatts should recruit better.

2/3/2021 10:34:05 PM

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look how much he didn't give a shit on that steal

2/3/2021 10:34:50 PM

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Funder Dunk

2/3/2021 10:35:23 PM

dmspack
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Keep talking shit about him. It’s working.

2/3/2021 10:35:48 PM

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2/3/2021 10:36:06 PM

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Bates has been pretty much totally negated on the defensive end. With Huff playing outside of the paint, Bates shot blocking is a non factor.

2/3/2021 10:41:17 PM

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We are playing the first place team in the ACC and DJ is the most talented player on the court. Tell me I am wrong.

The fact that this UVA team is about to be 8-1 speaks to how down the league is.

2/3/2021 10:45:36 PM

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You’re underestimating the talent on UVa. Jay Huff is gonna be in the conversation for ACC POY.

[Edited on February 3, 2021 at 10:48 PM. Reason : UVa was preseason #1 in the conference ]

2/3/2021 10:47:58 PM

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None of these guys will play a second in the NBA...

I hate UVA basketball, I hate their fucking walk-ons acting like a high school team, and I hate their "pack line" defense. They are ruining the game and get away with so much shit. Like people do not even want to watch this nonsense.

2/3/2021 10:50:42 PM

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"most talented waste"

2/3/2021 10:50:42 PM

dmspack
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^^ I don’t like their style. But lol at thinking they have no talent. They’re actually recruiting better the last couple years than they were back when they won the title. They have talent.

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[Edited on February 3, 2021 at 10:56 PM. Reason : They’re ]

2/3/2021 10:51:54 PM

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It’s Allen

2/3/2021 10:53:06 PM

dmspack
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Allen has been super disappointing this year. But that was a good shot.

2/3/2021 10:54:09 PM

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I had UVA winning the title in 2019, this team ain't winning shit. Quote me. They will lose in the round of 32 to a 7/10 seed.

2/3/2021 10:58:16 PM

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I didn’t say theyre better this year than when they won it all. I’m just saying you’re underestimating their talent based on the style they play.

2/3/2021 11:00:01 PM

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2/3/2021 11:18:10 PM

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Will Hellems average 16 ppg the rest of the season? And why is Beverly only 50% on free throws?

2/3/2021 11:19:52 PM

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""Well, they hired me and I'm the coach. I felt like Manny was going to be the guy who was going to play...Obviously D.J. had scored, but I wanted a guy to be able to stop them from scoring" -- Keatts"


He ended up giving an answer but I wish coaches would leave out stuff like the start. Just treat an interview like any work review, give an honest answer of why you did something and move on wheres the downside?

2/3/2021 11:46:04 PM

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generally i'm fine just assuming the coach is way smarter than me on stuff like this. but bates' defense was largely negated all night because huff was playing out around the 3 point line and able to drive - something bates wasn't really able to stop. in theory, yes, bates is the better defensive option. i'm not sure that was the case last night, though.

2/4/2021 6:38:55 AM

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we win this game with DD healthy??

2/4/2021 8:35:34 AM

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2/4/2021 9:46:47 AM

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"He averages 12/5 in 23 mins/game.

In acc play he’s averaging 13.7 and 5.7 in 25 mins. I’m sorry he’s not scoring 2 more points and getting 2 more rebounds to reach your arbitrary 16/8 average."


16/8 isn't arbitrary. If he averages that, he is in the conversation for best players in the ACC and with his size/talent maybe he is even a first round draft pick. As it is, he won't make third team and probably won't get drafted.

I'm not in the camp of him not giving a shit, though. I just think our guards can't get him the ball and waste his talent. I'd love to know why we can't seem to develop at least an average 3pt shot, though. He could be deadly with that. Usually good free throw shooters can shoot from outside, so it's strange.

2/4/2021 1:05:31 PM

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16/8 is still arbitrary especially when it has no context. he's averaging 24 mins/game, 56% on FGs, and 84% FTs in acc play. i mean, shit, i wish he averaged 25/12. but he doesn't. and the fact that he doesn't average 16/8 or whatever other stat we want to pull out of the air does not really indicate his level of effort or anything else. hell, if he played 30 mins/game instead of 24 then there's a good chance he's hitting those benchmarks.
as you said, it's more of indictment on how we run our offense and our guards not feeding him more often. but free of any context (mins/game, shot attempts, efficiency, etc) it's just a made up benchmark that he's not reaching. i think he's got great potential and wish he was more of a focal point of the offense. but i'm not sure that's his fault. he's an efficient player. i wish he was getting even more opportunities.

he's averaging 13/5.6 in acc play. 16/8 is obviously better than 13/5.6. so in that sense, yes, it would definitely be better if he average 16/8. on a per 40 minute basis, he's having the best season of his career (21.4/9.9 in conference play). his rebounding% is the highest it's been in his career, his FT% is the highest of his career, and his FG% is right in line with the rest of his career.

[Edited on February 4, 2021 at 2:18 PM. Reason : g]

2/4/2021 2:17:45 PM

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"hell, if he played 30 mins/game instead of 24 then there's a good chance he's hitting those benchmarks."


Exactly.

Keatts has some weird ass sub patterns and the fact that the best player on the team is averaging less minutes than 4 other players is stunning.

The context of the 16 and 8 number and what makes it not arbitrary is that those numbers together put you in elite status in the conference and country. By not giving him 30 min a game, Keatts is basically torching any possible draft potential the kid had--not to mention probably not putting us in the best position to win.

2/4/2021 4:36:55 PM

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"16 and 8 number and what makes it not arbitrary is that those numbers together put you in elite status in the conference and country."


wat

2/6/2021 11:12:42 AM

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Yeah I don’t really feel like arguing it anymore. But 16/8 are still completely arbitrary since we seem to agree if he got more minutes he’d reach those numbers. So he’s the exact same player he is now if he played 6 more minutes to get a couple more points and boards in a game. That doesn’t make him any worse or better.

2/6/2021 11:53:17 AM

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I think he's had some conditioning issues that have prob been exaggerated by covid breaks

2/6/2021 12:01:32 PM

dmspack
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^that and keatts clearly trusts Bates’ Defense more

Good start so far.

2/6/2021 12:24:22 PM

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we're whooping that ass so far

2/6/2021 12:30:43 PM

dmspack
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We’re on a 31-3 run. Lol.

2/6/2021 12:33:03 PM

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I guess he was kind of trying to be a smartass, but I recall during a commercial break of our previous game, Mark Packer saying of all the teams in the ACC, he had the most confidence in Boston College right now. Not FSU or VT or whoever, but BC.

2/6/2021 12:34:26 PM

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The most confidence in them sucking?

2/6/2021 12:35:17 PM

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i think he was saying that every team has flaws, but since BC had the longest stretch without playing, that somehow gave them an advantage, but again i think he was just being a smartass

2/6/2021 12:38:16 PM

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Lol Farrar getting early burn in this game. Good for him, but lol BC

2/6/2021 12:40:24 PM

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Lol yeah I was just about to come here to post that this is the perfect game to finally let Farrar and Ebenezer get some minutes.

2/6/2021 12:45:55 PM

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Path to success: only play teams missing half their players!

2/6/2021 1:15:43 PM

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14/7 for dj.

2/6/2021 3:18:44 PM

dmspack
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Couldn’t get 16/8 vs BC’s walk ons. Bum.

2/6/2021 4:52:21 PM

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Has anybody made a joke about not letting Nick Farrar get ice cream?

2/6/2021 7:03:51 PM

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Frozen yogurt, no toppings

2/6/2021 7:33:53 PM

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Kids size.

2/6/2021 8:14:22 PM

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