justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27783 Posts user info edit post |
Also he's better at basketball than Max Farting 2/19/2021 1:56:47 PM |
natureboy All American 2799 Posts user info edit post |
We are playing Wake so we should have a chance to win. Hope Hayes and Moore keep getting valuable minutes for next year. 2/20/2021 10:08:43 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
fox sports go app was working for the GT game...then it quits working for me right at 2 as the State game should be starting. weird 2/20/2021 2:10:35 PM |
DonMega Save TWW 4197 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sick of this bullshit about being unable to find out what channel the game is on. Spent 20 minutes checking ESPN, Fox Sports, NBC Sports, and CBS/Fox/NBC local channels. I'll wait to see if it pops up on ESPN replay later tonight I guess. 2/20/2021 2:55:03 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
It’s fox sports south
Seabron is having his best game. 2/20/2021 2:59:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Recruited SoCon level players in Seabron (could be ACC quality as a Junior)" |
guess who said that2/20/2021 3:08:02 PM |
Kickstand All American 11564 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe we can put up triple figs on the deacs. 2/20/2021 3:12:28 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
I had to VPN into another state so i could use Watch ESPN to see the game 2/20/2021 5:40:29 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27783 Posts user info edit post |
I just watched it on fox sports south.
[Edited on February 20, 2021 at 5:53 PM. Reason : If you were a true fan you would subscribe to a TV service that carries RSNs.] 2/20/2021 5:52:17 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
It's almost like we bench Beverly and play DJ and the freshmen more and we are a better team!
Only 90% of the fanbase was claiming for this.
Seabron killed it today. Before DD injury, he barely saw the court. 14 points, 9 boards, 3 assists, 4 steals, and a block.
Graham hitting a 3 was great. 2/20/2021 9:23:59 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27783 Posts user info edit post |
So you're saying seabron should have been playing over daniels? 2/20/2021 9:38:17 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37585 Posts user info edit post |
Beverly funderburk and Moore played almost the same minutes today as the previous Wake game 2/20/2021 9:42:44 PM |
natureboy All American 2799 Posts user info edit post |
I definitely didn’t see Seabron playing this well in a game this year. Good to see and good to see us shoot the 3 ball well. 2/20/2021 10:59:31 PM |
jocristian All American 7525 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""In order to advance as a freshman, you have to be able to get out on the floor and get some actual playing time in tough games. -- Keatts " |
It's getting to be a regular thing where his Monday press conferences have at least one self-own in it. I mean, if you know this is true, then why did it take until the last two games to give Hayes real minutes?
Now Hayes is playing 30+, BB is playing off the ball with role player minutes (and shooting the rock well), and we are magically winning. To be fair, Pitt and Wake fuckin suck so maybe it's just a coincidence.
If Hayes shows out against UVA, then I'm gonna be even more salty that it took so damn long for Keatts to let the freshmen loose.2/22/2021 5:24:45 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37585 Posts user info edit post |
Ballsy to fit in a long post in the hour the site was up yesterday! 2/23/2021 2:28:21 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean, if you know this is true, then why did it take until the last two games to give Hayes real minutes? " |
Maybe because he was trying to ease him in as the season progressed and he gained more experience and he gradually stopped turning the ball over as much, beacuse he's a freshman?2/23/2021 2:51:32 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Also Hayes missed 2 games with covid and then was clearly limited in his return game (UNC) earlier in the year. Hayes also clearly struggled for a stretch in ACC play. Not to throw him under the bus, it’s part of being a freshman. But it’s hard to let a struggling freshman play 30 mins when the goal is to also win the games.
Hayes was averaging 19.3 mpg in his 3 OOC games (before his covid break). Moore averaged 15 mpg in his 5 OOC games. Sure, more minutes in our 4 blowout wins would’ve been better than fewer minutes. But there’s also issues of conditioning that we don’t know about, too. I think we can nitpick with the benefit of hindsight, for sure. Their minutes have obviously increased with injuries to other players, too.
It’s a delicate balance. Freshmen need to gain experience. But it’s hard to do that when you wanna have your best lineup on the floor and win games right now. It probably makes it 100x harder when there’s a very limited OOC schedule and preseason. It’s totally fair to question KK’s management and rotations. 2/23/2021 7:31:45 PM |
jocristian All American 7525 Posts user info edit post |
This season was hanging by a thread before DD went down if not already flat out over. We had lost four straight including a loss to the worst miami team I have seen since Larranega has been there. After he went down, there is literally NO reason to continue to "ease" Hayes in. Season's over, give the freshmen the ball and let them gain experience--ya know, like his own quote says. It's a damn shame it didn't happen 7 games ago. Maybe we pull out one of the awful syracuse games. Maybe we don't get blown the fuck out by Duke.
Having BB and Allen eat up big minutes not only was not our best lineup over the stretch following DD going down as is obvious now in "hindsight" but I (and lots of others did too) mentioned it way back then too. It's a shame for BB too. Half the fan base thinks he absolutely sucks and the reality is that Keatts fucked the kid over by making him play the wrong role. He is playing the right role for the first time since his freshmen year and not doing half bad.
Look, it's possible to support Keatts and still think he fucked up royally with playing time this season. 2/23/2021 8:19:43 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37585 Posts user info edit post |
Welcome back tww!! 2/23/2021 11:38:53 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
I like the 6:30 tip offs this year 2/24/2021 8:07:13 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Beat UVA! 2/24/2021 8:24:28 AM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look, it's possible to support Keatts and still think he fucked up royally with playing time this season." |
It's also possible to realize that you don't know what's going-on in practice and off the court, and the coach knows more than most fans do about that.2/24/2021 9:35:59 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
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thegoodlife3 All American 39221 Posts user info edit post |
not saying that Keatts is a bad coach, but that excuse has been used for generations of bad coaches 2/24/2021 1:01:34 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Of course, because it's true of all coaches, good or bad. They're privy to things that fans aren't. 2/24/2021 1:52:09 PM |
Kickstand All American 11564 Posts user info edit post |
I really think we can beat the 11.5 spread vs the 'Hoos! 2/24/2021 6:45:14 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Good start! 2/24/2021 6:47:34 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Lol I think Funderburk just did the “pump up the crowd” thing with his arms after Seabron’s dunk. In a road game. With basically no fans. 2/24/2021 7:03:53 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Going for a triple post
Huff blindly spin moves into the lane and into a mostly stationary Bates. And it’s a defensive foul. Lol. 2/24/2021 7:14:55 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah that was a shameful call. Huff was out of control, should have just been a no-call. 2/24/2021 7:27:56 PM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 24, 2021 at 8:17 PM. Reason : ]]
2/24/2021 8:13:30 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
the banks stay open late in virginia 2/24/2021 8:22:40 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Yep it’s Hayes
[Edited on February 24, 2021 at 8:25 PM. Reason : My stream is v behind by the way ] 2/24/2021 8:25:14 PM |
jocristian All American 7525 Posts user info edit post |
Man that almost follow dunk by Moore would have been spectacular.
I have been very impressed with the team's movement and unselfishness in the half-court offense so far. The last couple of possessions have been pretty stagnant, but generally it's been good with a lot of patience for most of the second half.
Now it's time to make free throws. If we hit them, we might sneak away with a great win.
[Edited on February 24, 2021 at 8:29 PM. Reason : d] 2/24/2021 8:28:38 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
UVa doesn’t foul every single time their bigs hedge the screen at the top. But they do commit a foul on it multiple times/game. And it never gets called. Richard Howell would get called for that shit 2 times a game. But tendencies I guess 2/24/2021 8:29:34 PM |
jocristian All American 7525 Posts user info edit post |
^basically. We have been able to exploit the normal "handsiness" UVA has because our guards are quick and good enough to beat them on the dribble and/or make the foul obvious.
Big time free throws by moore and hayes so far. 2/24/2021 8:32:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
Hauser? More like Douglas Quaid 2/24/2021 8:42:57 PM |
jocristian All American 7525 Posts user info edit post |
Great defense by DJ without fouling on the Huff 3. Awesome rebound by Seabron to seal it. Huge free throws down the stretch by the guards. I haven't felt this positive about the team all season. 2/24/2021 8:44:28 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Jay Huff may be more punchable than Lee Melchionni was
Great W. Home against Pitt, @ND, home VT. Three winnable games now. Who woulda thought? 2/24/2021 8:46:12 PM |
Kickstand All American 11564 Posts user info edit post |
I'll take the W with DJ only going 14 & 6. 2/24/2021 8:49:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
lmao 2/24/2021 8:50:13 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
lol
Huge win. Clutch FT shooting. UVa got hot and Moore’s turnover was definitely lemon booty time. But we kinda dominated this game. Only lost the lead briefly. And led by 4-8 points most of the game. Obviously it was close enough for concern throughout. But that was a pretty great performance. Got some help by UVa being cold to start. But they made up for that by catching fire late.
Does anybody know where to find +/- for college players? Haven’t been able to find it. I know it’s pretty easy to find for nba
[Edited on February 24, 2021 at 8:55 PM. Reason : A] 2/24/2021 8:52:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
not sure but start here https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/bpm-player-season.html 2/24/2021 8:57:02 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks 2/24/2021 9:01:45 PM |
jocristian All American 7525 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/north-carolina-state/2021.html
Interesting stats there. Biggest standout to me was Shak Moore's BPM (5.2) good for 3rd on the team behind DD and Bates and his win share per 40 which is in the top 4 on the team. Seems to back up the eye test. The kid is gonna be a player. I'm glad to see his minutes--particularly in important situations are going up.
Also, Chase Graham's stellar offensive rating.
[Edited on February 24, 2021 at 9:32 PM. Reason : d] 2/24/2021 9:30:04 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27783 Posts user info edit post |
Chase Graham is averaging 32 points/40 min. Why is he not playing more??? 2/24/2021 9:40:02 PM |
natureboy All American 2799 Posts user info edit post |
Big time win!!! Glad we are on a hot streak, didn’t see it coming after DD went down. Glad the freshman guards are stepping up. I got nervous after the inbounds off of Moore’s hand at the end. 2/24/2021 11:02:00 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
still an uphill climb for NCAAT, i think. but winnable games to closeout the season (pitt, @nd, vt) gives me some hope for the NCAAT. would kinda be nice if UNC became a Q1 win for us. UNC is 33 in NET, but that was before yesterday's loss. if they could get into top 30 then that becomes a Q1 win. and yeah, that miami L sucks big time.
i know this is all still premature...but fuck it 2/25/2021 6:42:20 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5850 Posts user info edit post |
Daniels was our best player but also a succubus for the ball, glad the freshmen are getting a chance to grow and we will be that much better next year. Win the NIT and lets get ready for fans again 2/25/2021 8:02:10 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
I think there’s no nit this year 2/25/2021 8:27:57 AM |