daddytime Suspended 503 Posts user info edit post |
Man if N.C. State ever has a good football team ill shit myself, p.s. winning the micron pc and tangerine bowl is mediocre at best, which most state fans are content with 8/8/2006 9:12:20 AM |
thebody Veteran 183 Posts user info edit post |
who the fuck are you 8/8/2006 9:21:47 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
^same question
and please please please let cowher come to raleigh
[Edited on August 8, 2006 at 9:23 AM. Reason : asdf] 8/8/2006 9:23:30 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
No I think going out after winning the SB would have been the perfect finale. I don't see them repeating this year and unless they have a good offseason, they likely won't win next year which is when his contract expires. 8/8/2006 9:29:42 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its funny to see the steeler fans are the most vocal saying that theres no chance." |
it's not like i'm saying he'll never stop coaching the steelers. i'm saying he'll never coach here. maybe it's just that the steelers fans know their coach a little better than the average state fan.
how many times have super bowl-winning head coaches stepped DOWN to coach a college team with no prior NCAA head coaching experience? regardless of whether or not it's at their alma-mater.
i've already said i'll be surprised if he stays with the steelers for more than another 5 years. i will be shocked, however, if at any point from now until eternity, bill cowher becomes nc state's head coach.
and believe me, if cowher retires from the steelers, and then however many years later wants to come coach here, i'd be ecstatic, but it's just not going to happen. stop kidding yourselves.8/8/2006 9:45:20 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I was searching around and found a Redskins message board saying he isn't signing an extension because he might step in and take over for Gibbs when he retires, haha.
But they said that he'll either be a Redskin, coaching at NC State, or just retired, so it apparently isn't as far-fetched as we think, even Washington fans believe it's a possibility.
A lot of coaches wouldn't return to the college level because of pride issues, they feel they are above it. I don't think Cowher is that type of guy, so I don't think he'd think it be-littling of his career to come and coach here.
I wouldn't have imagined Weis dropping down to the collegiate ranks when he could have likely found a HC job around the league, but he did. 8/8/2006 9:52:24 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
he's just so young by coaching standards....i find it hard to believe that if he does indeed quit coaching in the pros, he will pull a madden and not ever coach again. He'll get the itch a few years after he leaves, and maybe, just maybe the stars will align......
but i would rather see the scenario where amato gets his ass in gear and quells any talk of this with a few great years. 8/8/2006 9:54:21 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^ 8/8/2006 10:08:18 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and believe me, if cowher retires from the steelers, and then however many years later wants to come coach here, i'd be ecstatic, but it's just not going to happen. stop kidding yourselves." |
It makes a bit sense, but seems like such a long shot.
No one has any real information really to make any type of judgment on if it'll happen or not, we are all just going to have to wait and let it pan out.
but rabid sports fans hate having to do that.8/8/2006 10:10:52 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
The dude won a superbowl.
I don't think pride plays into it.
I think the fact that our school doesn't have the balls, for starters, to fire Amato unless he really botches the situation up for Cowher means it won't happen. 8/8/2006 11:47:39 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
If you don't think the school would drop Amato in a heartbeat for Cowher you're insane.
BUT, I don't think Cowher would LET us do that. Cowher and Amato are friends, so I don't think he'd be happy with us just firing Amato without a good reason(like back-to-back losing seasons).
Maybe Cowher could talk Amato into stepping down to his more natural position of DC, and let Cowher run things.
I'd just be happy with Cowher retiring to Raleigh and helping with the team when he wants to and helping us with recruiting, that would be enough for me, haha.
[Edited on August 8, 2006 at 12:21 PM. Reason : .] 8/8/2006 12:21:25 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I was searching around and found a Redskins message board saying he isn't signing an extension because he might step in and take over for Gibbs when he retires, haha.
But they said that he'll either be a Redskin, coaching at NC State, or just retired, so it apparently isn't as far-fetched as we think, even Washington fans believe it's a possibility.
A lot of coaches wouldn't return to the college level because of pride issues, they feel they are above it. I don't think Cowher is that type of guy, so I don't think he'd think it be-littling of his career to come and coach here.
I wouldn't have imagined Weis dropping down to the collegiate ranks when he could have likely found a HC job around the league, but he did." |
honestly, i don't think cowher would be one to leave pittsburgh and go to washington for more money. however, he will do everything he can to make it seem like this is not the case. cowher's contract is up in 2007, and yes there are rumors that gibbs will return to Nascar after 2007, so Snyder will probably be making a play for cowher.
holmgren just got a big extension from the seahawks, so cowher will obviously be asking for more money than what he got, although not much more. i don't think it's about the money as much as it's about the pride. he won the SB, so he should get more than the guy that lost...
cowher has mentioned the possibility of retirement and has bought a house in raleigh.
i believe all of these things will be used as bargaining chips in his contract extension talks with dan rooney. i don't think cowher is looking to empty rooney's wallet here, i think he just wants a fair salary, in comparison to the rest of the league, and is using any negotiation tactics necessary to ensure he gets it.
he loves the rooney's and the steelers, and unless they do something to change that, he will never leave them for another team. he may retire, and then decide to come back to coaching years later and fill a vacancy, but i don't see him jumping ship to coach another team a la herman edwards or something like that.
i think that when it's all said and done, cowher will end up signing a contract extension with the steelers. this is certainly what i hope will happen, but i'm making this prediction as objectively as i can based on the knowledge i have about cowher and the facts about the current situation.
i guess we'll see what happens.8/10/2006 5:19:22 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
This much is known. Back when we hired Chuck, Bill said he wouldn't come to Raleigh, because he wanted NC State to be his last job.
there is a possiblity he might take a position as a DC or something with less pressure than head coach. 8/10/2006 5:28:52 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
yup, someday, just not anytime soon 8/10/2006 6:14:06 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
i don't really see cowher taking a job as a coordinator anywhere 8/10/2006 6:29:54 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
i meant as a head coach
someday
just not anytime soon 8/10/2006 10:36:49 PM |
AlbertPujols Starting Lineup 80 Posts user info edit post |
bump, for fun 11/3/2006 12:18:27 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.timesonline.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=17405263&BRD=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478569&rfi=8 11/3/2006 12:29:40 PM |
cookiepuss All American 3486 Posts user info edit post |
i hate chuck as our head coach, but i'd love to see him as our DC behind cowher. 11/3/2006 2:45:04 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
^ I wouldn't. 11/3/2006 2:51:38 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maybe Cowher could talk Amato into stepping down to his more natural position of DC, and let Cowher run things. " |
This would only happen in a perfect world....
Icing on the cake would be : HC =Cowher, OC = Chow DC = Amato11/3/2006 3:00:24 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
oh sweet jesus
the trifecta that would pwn the world
even ditka would have to acknowledge the superiority 11/3/2006 3:31:35 PM |
swedish All American 891 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ agree ^^^ why the fuck not..so we wont have the best defense in the ACC or even the nation like we have before? 11/3/2006 3:36:56 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not saying it's going to happen, i'm not saying it isn't, but i don't understand what is so hard to believe about a very succesful nfl coach deciding he's set financially and going back to coach his alma mater as a sort of passion project, especially when his alma mater is so fucking bad.
i don't know bill cowher, i don't know his personality, but it doesn't seem ridiculous to me. 11/3/2006 3:39:07 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
1. it will happen for all those reasons
2. it will not happen anytime soon because he's too young to leave the NFL 11/3/2006 3:40:48 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
NORM CHOW FOR COACH 11/3/2006 3:46:39 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This much is known. Back when we hired Chuck, Bill said he wouldn't come to Raleigh, because he wanted NC State to be his last job." |
Is this actually documented anywhere? Or is it one of those internet rumors like Rick Barnes having a clause to opt out of his Texas contract for NC State? You know, the kind that gets repeated so many times that people think it's true.11/3/2006 3:47:32 PM |
jamz0r All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
^ Just like Chow is rumored to have said he would only coach at NC State or Arizona State? 11/3/2006 4:04:30 PM |
golfpack All American 2278 Posts user info edit post |
i heard a rumor that CowHer's wife said that his dream was to win the superbowl and coach his alma mater 11/3/2006 4:40:16 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i heard that erskine bowles already got a verbal from cowher to coach the tarheels 11/3/2006 4:50:49 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Just like Chow is rumored to have said he would only coach at NC State or Arizona State?" |
that one's not bullshit.11/3/2006 5:18:04 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i heard that erskine bowles already got a verbal from cowher to coach the tarheels" |
you go to hell and you die11/3/2006 7:01:49 PM |
swedish All American 891 Posts user info edit post |
rumor has it...and take it as a rumor... but supposedly Bill Cowher is now the motivational speaker for recruits and incoming freshmen for NC State Football.
again, no link, but lets hope that is correct.
If anyone else knows anything about this..please post 1/30/2007 4:24:27 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
and it begins 1/30/2007 4:25:33 PM |
swedish All American 891 Posts user info edit post |
oh.. it already begun 1/30/2007 4:27:23 PM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
1/30/2007 4:28:26 PM |
swedish All American 891 Posts user info edit post |
that face would make me sign 1/30/2007 4:31:18 PM |