GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As long as he is trying to work within the establishment framework, he'll be viewed by many (fairly, or unfairly) as an establishment candidate. Running as a Republican only endears him to young conservatives and some independents. It's time for him to drop out (he can't get the delegates, anyway). He's gotten the supporters he's gonna get. The fact that he's staying in the race makes me think that he's still playing politics, possibly to help the career of his son." |
Enough of this ignorance. You condone the act of not researching candidates, the act of not fact checking, and the act of making opinions without even watching a single video or reading one article about Ron Paul.
I'm tired of your ignorance toward Ron Paul. Educate yourself. This is the last time I'm telling you. Your opinions look like an eight grader trying to write a paper on a book he never read based on the book's title. It's pathetic and a sad excuse for an academic.3/14/2012 5:31:34 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Here's your chance to educate yourselves.
Join RevPAC for live streaming coverage of Ron Paul's speech at the University of IL on March 14 from 6-8pm CST.
Here http://revolutionpac.com/Ron-Paul-Live/
That's 6pm Central standard time. 3/14/2012 5:36:27 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not an eight grader.
I'm dis many:
*holds up 27 fingers* 3/14/2012 5:38:15 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
It's funny you mock eighth graders and their ability to count. I see you are unaware that counting is mastered in the first grade.
You sir, are so stupid, that even eighth graders can understand Ron Paul
3/14/2012 9:06:02 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^geniusboy,
obama vs ron paul.. who would you vote for 3/14/2012 9:12:14 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand how you don't know who I'd vote for based on the last 4 pages of information? 3/14/2012 9:17:35 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Your opinions look like an eight grader trying to write a paper on a book he never read based on the book's title" |
I was just following your lead, amigo.3/14/2012 9:34:41 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean, it probably is broken beyond repair, but I don't know that for sure. It could be worth not scrapping the entire thing, but my opinion on this depends on how optimistic I'm feeling that day. " |
That's weird. I don't remember clicking on the sarcasm thread. Wait a sec...3/14/2012 9:42:54 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
What Jesus thinks: "It's time for him to drop out"
What everyone else thinks:
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM. Reason : .] 3/15/2012 6:45:53 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Finally, a black dude in one of these. Seems to be staff though. 3/15/2012 10:14:44 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
You've seriously never known a black Ron Paul supporter? It's not that uncommon, man. 3/15/2012 10:18:49 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't say I've never known a black Ron Paul supporter. I've seen plenty of "My Black Friends" style compilations on youtube of them. They're just mysteriously sparse if not totally absent from the vast majority of these rally photos.
It's almost as though a small handful of black supporters exist and are touted disproportionately on youtube by Paul supporters trying to overcompensate for the glaring overall whiteness of his fanbase.
I'm pretty sure no other candidate, in fact, has such an extensive collection of "NO, REALLY, WE HAVE SOME BLACK PEOPLE, SERIOUSLY LOOK!" videos.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 10:26 AM. Reason : .] 3/15/2012 10:25:27 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
Why are you so obsessed again with another social issue or cultural skin color issue?
Is somebody being prevented from joining up with these people based on skin color? What's your big complaint Str8loser?
Come out in the open and air the grievances that you've dealt with so much. 3/15/2012 10:31:24 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know about the compilations. I know that in your mind, a black person has no political worth unless they're totally dependent on and willing to prop up the savior welfare state. In reality, there's nothing about having black skin that lends itself to supporting...well, everything that the other candidates are offering. No candidate except Ron Paul is advocating policies that would improve race relations in any way. 3/15/2012 10:35:16 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not complaining about anything. If I were black I'd stay the fuck away from Ron Paul too. 3/15/2012 10:37:48 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Except you're not black, so you don't actually know how you'd feel. You're just a white guy that feels bad about the fact that they were born white in the U.S. You think you're throwing black people a bone by determining what political positions they should have, but it's actually pretty condescending.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM. Reason : ] 3/15/2012 10:41:07 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
Does Ron Paul naturally repel persons of color? I'm very sorry if you feel this Str8Fool
But if I were you I'd dig a little further into the last few neurons of intelligence sustaining your animate corpse and drop the race card for just 10-20 seconds...
And instead realize that he is actually attracting quite possibly the only group of people to believe in 100% equality of all things in the history of the world.
There is perhaps no other group of people on earth who lives or has ever lived ... that abides-by as well as preaches equality in all things... than Ron Paul supporters. AND IM SAYING THIS AS AN OUTSIDER.
I really hope you can have an open heart about them and not be such a harsh criticizer of what's going to be the future of our government (ron pauls ideas). It's a forgone conclusion at this point almost. We can't sustain ourselves as is. And if we plan on surviving we'll be embracing more and more principles from this movement sooner rather than later.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 10:45 AM. Reason : -] 3/15/2012 10:43:30 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't know about the compilations. I know that in your mind, a black person has no political worth unless they're totally dependent on and willing to prop up the savior welfare state." |
You know this isn't true, but way to go cribbing this line from Limbaugh anyway.
Quote : | " In reality, there's nothing about having black skin that lends itself to supporting...well, everything that the other candidates are offering. " |
Other candidates might actually acknowledge that racism is a serious problem outside of the drug war. Paul wont. Other candidates might acknowledge that blacks still bear scars financially and socially from 200 years of oppression. Paul wont.
Other candidates don't hire entire teams of people to write, edit, publish, and distribute racist newsletters, then pretend like they had nothing to do with it. Pretend like that libertarian party didn't do serious outreach in the 80's and 90's to militia groups, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, neo-Confederates, and similar anti-government groups, despite obvious racism playing a large part in their support.
Quote : | "No candidate except Ron Paul is advocating policies that would improve race relations in any way." |
Paul's policies, and yours, are to string black people out to dry. Rampant racism still existent in hiring, finance, housing, health, and education, you either minimize its impact or claim its morally unjust to DO anything about it. Ignore its existence, and if you acknowledge it, your only policy is telling black people to "deal with it." That's because you, like Ron Paul, only pay attention to legal liberty and willfully ignore issues of effective liberty.3/15/2012 10:44:25 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
that is just about the dumbest shit I have ever read.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 10:46 AM. Reason : ^^ ] 3/15/2012 10:45:56 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Except you're not black, so you don't actually know how you'd feel. You're just a white guy that feels bad about the fact that they were born white in the U.S. You think you're throwing black people a bone by determining what political positions they should have, but it's actually pretty condescending." |
Aww hey, a white guilt jab, another typically run-of-the-mill conservative defense mechanism against people bringing up racism in America. Pack_bryan already accused me of pulling the race card. What's next, you gonna call me a n*gger lover?
You both need to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness_%28race%29 closely. This whole "I treat everyone equally! [While ignoring the systemic discriminations entirely]" line is not new, and it doesn't fool anyone.3/15/2012 10:46:42 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's because you were raised to be biased and racist. sorry about your inferiority
Quote : | "You think you're throwing black people a bone by determining what political positions they should have, but it's actually pretty condescending." |
mega-pwnt
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 10:49 AM. Reason : x]3/15/2012 10:47:36 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You think you're throwing black people a bone by determining what political positions they should have, but it's actually pretty condescending." |
Lol
Quote : | "In reality, there's nothing about having black skin that lends itself to supporting...well, everything that the other candidates are offering. No candidate except Ron Paul is advocating policies that would improve race relations in any way." |
3/15/2012 10:51:48 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
str8foolish thinks that white people don't like black people very much
this is very sad
poor str8foolish. maybe there is something we can give him financially or have pity on him to make him feel better. i'm very sorry that white people are mean to black people st8foolish 3/15/2012 10:56:02 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You know this isn't true, but way to go cribbing this line from Limbaugh anyway. " |
It's certainly true. Your ideology is driven by the idea that black people require government assistance to succeed. You don't want to hear anything a black libertarian has to say because it doesn't fit into your narrative. They obviously were somehow duped by their racist libertarian overlords into support policies that would be detrimental to them.
Quote : | "Other candidates might actually acknowledge that racism is a serious problem outside of the drug war. Paul wont. Other candidates might acknowledge that blacks still bear scars financially and socially from 200 years of oppression. Paul wont. " |
Ron Paul has talked extensively about racism. This claim has no basis in reality. Ron Paul talks about discrimination in the justice system, because he's running for political office. No, he's not talking about how we can use the federal government to force people to stop being racist, because that's fucking stupid.
Quote : | "Paul's policies, and yours, are to string black people out to dry." |
Listen, I'm not going to let this drift into another debate on AA. We've been there and have differing views on the role of government. It's literally impossible to right the wrongs of the past, but it is possible to alter or remove policies that are making the problem worse. If you don't see how people might be drawn to that approach over your top-down, have the corporate-state fix everything approach, there's nothing to discuss.3/15/2012 11:19:25 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Rampant racism still existent in hiring, finance, housing, health, and education, you either minimize its impact or claim its morally unjust to DO anything about it. Ignore its existence, and if you acknowledge it, your only policy is telling black people to "deal with it." That's because you, like Ron Paul, only pay attention to legal liberty and willfully ignore issues of effective liberty." |
LOL3/15/2012 11:22:19 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's certainly true. Your ideology is driven by the idea that black people require government assistance to succeed." |
No, I don't. I believe black people require government assistance to have equal opportunities to succeed. You don't determine your own opportunities, your environment does, you can only react to them and choose which among them to pursue. The value of your choices is always limited by the actual range of choices you have available to you, i.e. your opportunities.
I think blacks are just as capable as anyone else as succeeding, given the proper environment and opportunities. I fully believe they're capable of succeeding, but systemic racism requires they put way, way more effort into succeeding than they would have to if they weren't black.
That's not the same thing as thinking they inherently require government assistance to do anything with themselves. I believe anybody who suffers effects similar to those that racism creates would suffer lower success rates, be they white, black, or green. The fact that you're trying to twist THAT position into some kind of racism demonstrates that you're either being massively disingenuous or suffer serious critical thinking deficiencies.
Quote : | " You don't want to hear anything a black libertarian has to say because it doesn't fit into your narrative. They obviously were somehow duped by their racist libertarian overlords into support policies that would be detrimental to them." |
I don't think they're "duped" at all, just stupid in the same ways all libertarians are stupid.
Quote : | "Ron Paul has talked extensively about racism. This claim has no basis in reality. Ron Paul talks about discrimination in the justice system, because he's running for political office. " |
He talks strictly about the forms of racism he can solve without compromising his ideology. All the others, the social issues, he has nothing to say about because he wouldn't dare want to infringe on the rights of a racist business owner! That business owner might be a subscriber to his newsletter!
Quote : | "No, he's not talking about how we can use the federal government to force people to stop being racist, because that's fucking stupid." |
No, it's not. There are plenty of studies showing that forced integration does curb racial animosity over time, in workplaces, schools, and neighborhoods.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM. Reason : .]3/15/2012 11:28:31 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UDChEDnISOw
We do not have democracy. The process is a sham. 3/15/2012 12:07:59 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
That process is entirely internal to the GOP and is in no way guaranteed by any sort of law or governmental action, fyi.
You want big government to step in and tell the GOP how to run its own party?
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 12:16 PM. Reason : .] 3/15/2012 12:15:23 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
I want direct democracy.
Even Paul isn't radical enough to fix this system. 3/15/2012 12:26:50 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "forced integration" |
LOL. dude. what. i don't even....3/15/2012 12:30:45 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "forced integration does curb racial animosity over time" |
So does genocide, if you're thorough enough.
LOL at the idea of spotting the black guy at a Ron Paul rally. I wonder why the good libertarians are always racists.3/15/2012 12:36:36 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
For some odd reason the more I get to like Ron Paul
the more I just fucking utterly despise black people. what is happening to mee!!!!!@!?!!?!?!!!
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM. Reason : BLACK PEOPLE!!! AARRGGGG!!!!!!!! lol] 3/15/2012 12:40:02 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
THERE IS A LOT OF FUCKING STUPID IN THIS THREAD FROM BOTH SIDES...
But there is one thing I would like to address
Quote : | "Rampant racism still existent in hiring" |
I don't disagree with the premise of this statement but you must understand that as a minority who is well educated, personable and well prepared you have a distinct advantage.
The reason is that when you walk through the door they may hold a small bias, expecting you to perform according to whatever stereotype they hold. However, with the bar set so low it is easier to outperform the expectations, establishing a positive impression and leading the candidate to appear relatively superior to others who merely met expectation.
So, ultimately, it still revolves around what you bring to the table.3/15/2012 12:56:11 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That process is entirely internal to the GOP and is in no way guaranteed by any sort of law or governmental action, fyi.
You want big government to step in and tell the GOP how to run its own party?" |
I don't really know what should be done. The electoral process in this country is pretty messed up and there is a lot that could be done to improve it. The whole country has to deal with the results since we have a de facto two party system, so the federal government does have some say so in how the election process pans out.3/15/2012 12:57:12 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't disagree with the premise of this statement but you must understand that as a minority who is well educated, personable and well prepared you have a distinct advantage." |
No, they don't, and there's a plethora of data to prove this.
White job applicants with criminal records have a better chance of being called back for an interview than black applicants without one, even when all the qualifications are the same. http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/race_at_work.pdf
Black students are suspended or expelled from school far more often than white students for the same offenses. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2012/0306/Minority-students-are-punished-more-than-whites-US-reports.-Is-it-racism
Even educated black people suffer twice the unemployment as equally-qualified whites. http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/6397110-418/the-disappearing-black-middle-class.html
And at least one study shows that roughly 1 in 3 minority job applicants face blatant job discrimination each year: http://www.eeo1.com/1999_NR/Title.pdf
That's not even going into the effects that our racist criminal justice system has on their ability to advance or care for their children.
Quote : | "The reason is that when you walk through the door they may hold a small bias, expecting you to perform according to whatever stereotype they hold. However, with the bar set so low it is easier to outperform the expectations, establishing a positive impression and leading the candidate to appear relatively superior to others who merely met expectation." |
Except they don't get to walk through the door if their name or other personal information in their resume reveals that they're black. If it does, that reduces their chances by 50% of getting called back, all other qualifications being 100% equal. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/weekinreview/06Luo.html
Quote : | "So, ultimately, it still revolves around what you bring to the table." |
No, it doesn't. As convenient as this kind of claim is for meshing with your other positions, it isn't based on reality. All of what you've said isn't based on anything resembling evidence or data, if it is then provide it right fucking immediately. What you're spouting is rhetoric contrived specifically to oppose any and all actions to integrate black people more fully into the job market we know actively discriminates against them. If it is, you need to shore up and provide some fucking data, otherwise shut up forever.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM. Reason : .]3/15/2012 1:15:01 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't really know what should be done. The electoral process in this country is pretty messed up and there is a lot that could be done to improve it. The whole country has to deal with the results since we have a de facto two party system, so the federal government does have some say so in how the election process pans out." |
Your gripe is with the GOP, and while there are indeed huge problems with the electoral process at large, it's disingenuous to use a case of GOP intra-party electoral fraud as a soapbox to bitch about "the electoral process" of the government itself.3/15/2012 1:17:03 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UDChEDnISOw
We do not have democracy. The process is a sham.
" |
The fraud is real. The fraud is blatant. It's not even attempted to be cloaked, it's right in front of our eyes.
You know how good it makes me feel to have just one supporter on this issue in this thread when it's plain as the daylight to see?
Why is the majority of people in this thread still in denial?
I'd like to do an official thread count of TWWers who acknowledge the sound evidence that the process is completely rigged.
Let your voice be heard3/15/2012 1:34:54 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
I can't acknowledge the fraud as a semi-ron paul supporter
I'm too busy fucking utterly seething in hatred at black people since believing in small govt like ron paul is 100% str8loser proven correlation to being racist.
Wish I could help though
Quote : | "as a minority who is well educated, personable and well prepared you have a distinct advantage. The reason is that when you walk through the door they may hold a small bias, expecting you to perform according to whatever stereotype they hold. However, with the bar set so low it is easier to outperform the expectations, establishing a positive impression and leading the candidate to appear relatively superior to others who merely met expectation.
So, ultimately, it still revolves around what you bring to the table." |
sir, you have made my day. for once somebody speaks the truth in this thread.
it is ALLL about what you bring to the table. str8foolish will never understand that and will always claim the ONLY reasons for one mans failure is a social one that the government can step in and solve.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM. Reason : -]3/15/2012 1:39:55 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Black People have never really been political rallyists unless it was an issue about black people (which we saw doing the million man march or rallying with martin luther king)
Look at Obama's crowd even:
Look at Romney's crowd Look at Gingrich's crowd Look at Santorum's crowd Look at Herman Cain's crowd.
White white white white.
St8Foolish's accusation about Ron Paul not having black people at the event is baseless and false.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .] 3/15/2012 1:46:39 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
Some of your articles better serve my point and others don't refute anything stated. Which forces me to ask, did you even read them or google with key words and then post them thinking the sheer quantity of sources would provide credibility?This better serves my point.
Quote : | "Black students are suspended or expelled from school far more often than white students for the same offenses." |
What does this have to do about the job process?
Quote : | "White job applicants with criminal records have a better chance of being called back for an interview than black applicants without one" |
This was in a face to face situation where they were presented with a person before a resume. Assuming resumes are involved, thus setting an initial impression, what I said remains true. Furthermore this study was done large environments and constrained to brief conversations, not the true interview I so clearly laid out above.
Quote : | "Even educated black people suffer twice the unemployment as equally-qualified whites" |
The article points out because blacks are disproportionately distributed in government jobs, which have seen a large cut over the past few years. This is not race related but industry related.
Quote : | "And at least one study shows that roughly 1 in 3 minority job applicants face blatant job discrimination each year:" |
Only refers to discrimination that people feel as if they have received. Never goes into detail what any of this "discrimination" is. What were the circumstances, is there a way to objectively qualify it or did the survey merely ask "do you feel others have it better" and a yes equated to discrimination. Please find a source that provides more information so that we can qualify its merits.
Quote : | "Except they don't get to walk through the door if their name " |
For me, honestly, the name thing goes in with the qualifications I mentioned above. It may suck but none of the commonly used "black" names are heritage related.
Quote : | " If it is, you need to shore up and provide some fucking data, otherwise shut up forever." |
Pot, meet kettle...3/15/2012 1:50:58 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
Wow Geppeto is owning the shit out of Str8foolish 3/15/2012 2:03:53 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What does this have to do about the job process?" |
Part of "the job process" is getting an education, which is a little difficult if you're expelled because your skin color engenders harsher punishment.
Quote : | "This was in a face to face situation where they were presented with a person before a resume. Assuming resumes are involved, thus setting an initial impression, what I said remains true. Furthermore this study was done large environments and constrained to brief conversations, not the true interview I so clearly laid out above." |
Read the methodology, it was conducted specifically to minimize the effects of first-impression differences between the candidates:
Quote : | "The testers were well-spoken young men, aged 22 to 26; most were college-educated, between 5 feet 10 inches and 6 feet in height, recruited in and around New York City. They were chosen on the basis of their similar verbal skills, interactional styles and physical attractiveness. Additionally, testers went through a common training program to ensure uniform style of self presentation in job interviews. Testers were assigned matched fictitious resumes representing comparable profiles with respect to educational attainment, quality of high school, work experience, and neighborhood of residence. Testers presented themselves as high school graduates with steady work experience in entry-level jobs. In some conditions, testers presented additional evidence of a felony conviction." |
Whites got double the callback of blacks, despite all these controls on exactly the factors you are describing. What other conclusion could there be except "Blacks are inherently less personable, in ways that are perceivable to employers but NOT researchers."
Quote : | "The article points out because blacks are disproportionately distributed in government jobs, which have seen a large cut over the past few years. This is not race related but industry related." |
That conclusion isn't supported unless you can show that most or all of the gap is accountable to the public/private ratio. Your speculation on that proportion isn't a refutation.
Quote : | "Only refers to discrimination that people feel as if they have received. Never goes into detail what any of this "discrimination" is. What were the circumstances, is there a way to objectively qualify it or did the survey merely ask "do you feel others have it better" and a yes equated to discrimination. Please find a source that provides more information so that we can qualify its merits. " |
Try reading the source I supplied you retard, you clearly only glanced at it at best:
Quote : | "Workers affected by this discrimination were measured by the difference between the number actually employed and the number that the apparent discriminator would have employed if it had employed minorities/women at the average. This is the standard the Supreme Court has applied in cases of intentional discrimination." |
Note: this is not referring to population as-a-whole averages, but averages among businesses.
Quote : | "Ninety percent of these Black workers were affected by establishments that were so far below the average utilization that there was only a 1 in 100 chance that this happened by accident and half by” hard core” employers who had been discriminating for at least nine years." |
Quote : | "For me, honestly, the name thing goes in with the qualifications I mentioned above. It may suck but none of the commonly used "black" names are heritage related." |
The source of the names is completely unrelated, they're clearly being used as a proxy for determining whether the person is black or not, otherwise it wouldn't be so clearly delineated along racial lines.
The heritage argument is also extremely insensitive. The reason blacks don't have many "heritage" names is that slaveowners systematically destroyed that heritage through various controls to hinder slave solidarity.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]3/15/2012 2:05:46 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
What does any of this have to do with Ron Paul, straightfoolish? 3/15/2012 2:11:29 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look at Obama's crowd even:" |
Are you blind? There's more black people in close-angle shot than in all the pictures you've posted combined.
Quote : | "What does any of this have to do with Ron Paul, straightfoolish?" |
Ask destroyer, he's the one who accused me of "believing black people can't do anything without government" when I [correctly] pointed out the Paul's policies, with the exception of ending the drug war, completely leave the institutional and systemic racism that blacks still face unaddressed. One step in attracting followers is acknowledging the issues that are important to them.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .]3/15/2012 2:11:54 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
No, my friend, you are the one that is blind. You can't see white people in that picture? 3/15/2012 2:14:27 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Hrm, yes, clearly we were discussing the presence of whites, not the absence of blacks. 3/15/2012 2:14:54 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
If you can't see the difference between a black president being a black issue and ron paul being white after I just said "Black People have never really been political rallyists unless it was an issue about black people (which we saw during the million man march or rallying with martin luther king)
and even WITH obama being a black issue, whites still outnumber blacks 50:1!
Your theory is denied.
[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 2:23 PM. Reason : .] 3/15/2012 2:20:08 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
Listen, if this were 2007 and I was 24 with nothing to do at work I'd quote bomb the shit out of you right now but I'll sum it up like this...
The other article does not control for factors such as first impressions based on looks. The article states that the candidates were at career fairs or at a restaurant applying for a role. In fact, in some cases, the plants were in line right after the other. Another point I you must have missed in your careful research.
The article you posted said that blacks weigh heavily in government jobs and industry that has been hit hard. If you missed that in your desperate grab for articles careful research, I am sorry.
For the one where you suggested I read the source, it still doesn't describe the type of discrimination or the method behind evaluating the legitimacy. The average-basis method described only accounts for if there is legitimacy to hear the claim, not if the claim itself was legit. Going to court does not equate guilt.
Lastly, the source of names is not unrelated. It is very clear that people can be bias based on names. Race isn't the only example, another is that all girls whose names end with an i or ie where a Y should be are loose and dumb. The thing is if you are aware of this bias, which most are, you have the option to not name your children that or adjust your name as you see fit. I, personally, don't see this as an issue because the names themselves are arbitrary. However, if it was a way to hang on to heritage that was undeniably robbed then I could understand the apprehension to detach so easily. 3/15/2012 2:25:16 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ask destroyer, he's the one who accused me of "believing black people can't do anything without government" when I [correctly] pointed out the Paul's policies, with the exception of ending the drug war, completely leave the institutional and systemic racism that blacks still face unaddressed. One step in attracting followers is acknowledging the issues that are important to them. " |
Yes, with the notable exception of by far the most severely detrimental policy to black males and black communities, Ron Paul doesn't support having the federal government attempt to stop institutional racism as it exists in private entities. What has Obama done to "crack down" on this institutional racism?
Not all problems need to be or can be solved by the federal government. You always fucking equate "I don't want the federal government to do it" to "I don't want it done at all". This is a point that you never, ever seem to grasp.3/15/2012 2:33:18 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
a black guy just came in here for an interview
i am fucking incensed. this is 2012. the year of ron paul. this cannot be fucking happening 3/15/2012 3:57:06 PM |