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Dynasty2004
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^ YOU GOD DAMN RIGHT!

7/25/2017 1:35:44 PM

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I went back and looked at our last 5 regular season meetings with SEC teams.


Year Opponent Result Score
2012 Tennessee L 21-35
2009 South Car. L 3-7
2008 South Car. L 0-34
1999 South Car. W 10-0
1996 Alabama L 19-24


The odds are not in our favor.

7/25/2017 3:52:50 PM

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ehh, those pretty much have no bearing on this year

i dreamed last night that our offense marched down the field and took a 7-0 lead vs SCar, then we forced a fumble and quickly went up 14-0. i then woke up, but we were looking really good on both sides of the ball before my alarm went off. just sayin guys

[Edited on July 25, 2017 at 4:03 PM. Reason : f]

7/25/2017 4:01:17 PM

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^That sounds like an L honestly

7/25/2017 4:05:00 PM

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To be fair in 2008 RW got a concussion in the first quarter. Daniel Evans barely beating MAC, not to mention SEC...

And 2012 was a classic Amerson "I'm not feeling it today" game

[Edited on July 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM. Reason : Amerson]

7/25/2017 4:13:55 PM

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God that 3-7 L

7/25/2017 8:02:27 PM

dmspack
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and obviously not included in that list are bowl losses to Miss St (Belk) and Vandy (Music City) and the last year's bowl win vs Vandy. not that those 2 losses and 1 win make the list look better...but those games have about as much bearing on the SCar game this year as any other game on the list.

7/25/2017 10:04:45 PM

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Just rewatched the Clemson game. Holy shit we looked better than Bama and dominated most of the game. Clemson had 2 bad mistakes at bad times but so did we. I didn't remember missing 2 other fgs that game. ED called a great game but definitely choked everytime we got in the redzone. He better work on that.

We caused that much hell against a heismann calibur QB, I can't imagine how much havoc we will wreak against them at home, vs a new qb, with no mike williams, no jordan legget, and an improved dline.

Finley and JSam are good enough that we should just go for everything that is 4th and 5 or less. It takes 2 fgs to make a td so even if we only convert 1 in 3, we will still get the same points as having an average kicker who would go 2/3. We went 1/4 that game. We only scored 10 points in 5 red zone trips and still only lost after a 4th down conversion in ot.

Clemson had a bad snap that happened to hit the ground and bounce straight to watson. That was some lucky shit.

7/26/2017 7:52:58 PM

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^jinx has been applied

7/26/2017 10:16:06 PM

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Guys for fun I watched one of our most crushing losses ever! I'm a sane and normal person who paid to be on this website!

[Edited on July 26, 2017 at 11:15 PM. Reason : I mean, I would probably pay a little for this site if necessary BUT STILL ]

7/26/2017 11:14:01 PM

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LOL Jaybee1200 how did UT do against Vandy in the regular season finale? That same team went to a bowl and got their ass kicked by lowly NCSU football.

If we beat SCar Jaybee won't post at all during football season

7/27/2017 12:05:52 AM

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" It takes 2 fgs to make a td so even if we only convert 1 in 3, we will still get the same points as having an average kicker who would go 2/3. "


while i don't necessarily disagree with going for it on 4th and short, this logic isn't exactly right. this only applies if it's 4th and goal in regards to going for a TD vs FG. otherwise simply converting on 4th down doesnt guarantee a TD. if you're at the 30 and go for it, you don't necessarily get a TD...hell you may still have to convert another 4th down. or may still settle for a FG on the same drive.

also while on the topic

https://www.backingthepack.com/nc-state-football/2017/7/26/16031126/nc-state-among-teams-most-likely-to-forget-about-kicking-and-go-for-it-on-4th-down

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" In each of the last two seasons, NC State has ranked in the top 15 in fourth down attempt percentage.

That makes Dave Doeren one of the bigger gamblers in college football, at least recently. Last season, for instance, NC State went for it on fourth down about 28% of the time, which was the 13th-highest rate among FBS teams. It was a similar story the year prior."

7/27/2017 6:23:38 AM

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"calibur"

7/27/2017 8:41:01 AM

AstralEngine
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^ A big reason for that is that we had zero confidence in our FG unit.

7/27/2017 11:41:47 AM

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^Yup, A lot easier to go for it on 4th when your chance of hitting a field goal is 50/50 at best

7/27/2017 11:59:15 AM

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well, yeah. just pointing out that EMan was saying we should go for it on 4th down more often, when that's already kinda what we do.

7/27/2017 12:14:08 PM

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Y'all are getting Earl'd

[Edited on July 27, 2017 at 1:31 PM. Reason : But hey what else is there to talk about]

7/27/2017 1:31:28 PM

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Remember how hype football thread was in the build-up to the VT opening game? Those were the days.

7/28/2017 9:10:41 AM

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jay fucking davis.....

7/28/2017 2:02:13 PM

justinh524
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Jay Davis was still way better than Marcus Stone.

7/28/2017 4:33:22 PM

dmspack
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not sure why we're on this subject but they're all better than Harrison beck

7/28/2017 6:14:56 PM

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I don't know either. Jay Davis singlehandedly beat Virginia Tech (with a slight assist from the defensive line)

7/28/2017 6:21:02 PM

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Jay Davis threw for like 350 yards in that game. We didn't lose because of Jay Davis. I remember arguing about that after the game because it was my first TWW thread.

7/28/2017 6:32:17 PM

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You and I are referring to two very different games.

7/28/2017 9:52:20 PM

dmspack
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lol

7/29/2017 6:29:40 AM

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I was responding to Zel and Ribs

[Edited on July 29, 2017 at 4:45 PM. Reason : thread was called "days till virginia tech game"]

7/29/2017 4:44:40 PM

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I remember people blaming the crowd for being too loud at the 05 opener while we were on offense so we couldn't communicate at the line or something.

7/29/2017 6:00:00 PM

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Jay Davis tried to quiet the crowd downand someonein that thread asked "Why was he flapping his arms like a bird at one point?"

7/30/2017 10:03:42 AM

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Jay Davis was no where near the worst QB we've had in the last 20 years. Hell I'd put Daniel Evans behind him. That doesn't even consider the bottom tier with Marcus Stone, Pete Thomas, and Brandon Mitchell.

Though to be fair Marcus Stone was actually a solid TE. Also worth noting 2 of our last 3 QB commits ended up changing positions as well.

7/31/2017 9:17:02 AM

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pete thomas

7/31/2017 9:50:11 AM

dmspack
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Davis was not that good. But he had the nearly impossible job of following Rivers. But yes, we've had several worse than Davis.

[Edited on July 31, 2017 at 1:00 PM. Reason : pete thomas and harrison beck might be the worst imo although there are plenty choices]

7/31/2017 1:00:14 PM

LudaChris
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It's scary how similar statistically Jay Davis and Daniel Evans were.

7/31/2017 4:25:36 PM

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"2008 South Car. L 0-34"


ncwolfpack and I almost drove down to that game. Best decision we ever made.

7/31/2017 4:38:32 PM

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Don't forget about highly rated Burke, he couldn't even beat out Beck.

7/31/2017 9:08:44 PM

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He was a 3 star recruit (like pretty much every qb we had up until glennon, other than Evans who vastly outperformed his rating/glorified walkon status.) Harrison Beck was a 4 star coming out of high school and much, much more highly regarded.

[Edited on July 31, 2017 at 10:45 PM. Reason : Beck just gave no fucks.]

7/31/2017 10:39:06 PM

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Stone was a 4

7/31/2017 10:53:18 PM

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I was gonna make some petty post about this being 2017 but instead I'll post this. Embed?
https://youtu.be/ikhrCDF7pv8

7/31/2017 11:11:51 PM

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What was your favorite FSU game?

Mine was probably 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8GKM_aKsA0

1. 2012 Glennon's comeback
2. 98 Torrey Holt https://youtu.be/aiJzHpEGZuU?t=32m30s
3. 2006 Dunlap's corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzpCU9FMEK0
4. 2010 Ponder fumble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PcsUqKaftU&t=462s
5. 2005 Andre Brown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QEp43wzT6k

* Favorite Loss
2003 Double OT thriller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_FUTHlkQnI

All this reminds me that FSU has been cursed with god awful QBs. They've had great players all around even kickers but always have a boneheaded QB (except Jameis who suddenly won it all)

7/31/2017 11:49:46 PM

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"Stone was a 4"


Yes, and he was awful. Easily one of the bottom 2 quarterbacks I've ever seen start a game for State (with Beck.)

Plus he was delusional.

8/1/2017 12:38:47 AM

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Quote :
"Torrey Holt"

8/1/2017 6:25:46 AM

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"What was your favorite FSU game?"


Without a shadow of a doubt the 2001 game where we gave them their first conference loss at home. I was in the stands that day and it is still one of my favorite college memories. I remember not being able to look as Rix threw that fade on 4th down.

Good times.

8/1/2017 8:14:31 AM

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Chubb is no. 28 on this list.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20146915/college-football-top-50-players-2017-season

8/1/2017 10:27:53 AM

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not sure how anyone could objectively say that any FSU win was better than the 1998 win. They were #2 in the nation, had only lost one ACC game as a program up until that point, and we had barely beaten the damn Ohio BOBcats the week before. First play of the game, 70 yard TD to Peter "worst Bengal ever" Warrick. And then we shut that shit down the rest of the way and Torry did what he do.

8/1/2017 11:47:27 AM

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The question wasn't what objectively is the best FSU win. The question was what was your favorite FSU win.

8/1/2017 12:07:08 PM

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/03/five-teams-snubbed-preseason-amway-coaches-poll/534151001/

8/4/2017 9:14:07 AM

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Man I would like to buy into the hype but we have all been down this road way too many times to know better by now. Lets see how the SC game goes before I give us any shot at more than a 7-5 season.

8/4/2017 9:36:34 AM

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"Chubb is no. 28 on this list."


this list is bullshit because jaylen samuels isn't #1.

8/4/2017 10:11:14 AM

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^^fuck that losers mentality. we have a legit shot to be pretty dang good. let's embrace it.

8/4/2017 12:03:54 PM

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CFP or bust

8/4/2017 2:33:44 PM

RattlerRyan
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^^^^^No mention of Hines???

8/4/2017 10:42:25 PM

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