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9/6/2012 1:47:19 PM

I don't live in NC anymore

And thank God!

It's populated by idiots that think Ron Paul was robbed of his presidency!

9/6/2012 1:50:19 PM

MinkaGrl01 is such a pawn.

Just look at yourself, posting page 9 like a good little sheep.

You need to read the Rules of the Internet and educate yourself! Pay attention, people...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofSo--6L__s

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 1:52 PM. Reason : IMPORTANT STUFF IN THAT LINK! MUST WATCH FOR EVERYBODY!!!]

9/6/2012 1:51:24 PM

Quote :

"Then understand that the judicial system has the authority to interpret the constitutionality of those laws, which they've done and they have stood (for now). You obviously disagree with those interpretations, and so do the justices that held the minority opinion. But that's how the Constitution works; it gave that power to that branch of government, not GeniusBoy, or Ron Paul."

So if they made a law banning the constitution which outlines our unalienable rights, you believe that's in within their right.

Unbelievable.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 1:52 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2012 1:51:39 PM

this guy couldnt push pies to the fattest, dumbest of americans and we are the failures?

9/6/2012 1:52:47 PM

I think I actually like pizza less than I did yesterday.

9/6/2012 1:53:52 PM

I can play this game too

--you get my point--

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 2:09 PM. Reason : ..]

9/6/2012 1:55:18 PM

Quote :

"So if they made a law banning the constitution which outlines our unalienable rights, you believe that's in within their right."

Well you would have needed to be more specific with who "they" are before I could have responded appropriately.

But you have just posted a picture of a man jerking off. So maybe I should rethink responding to you at all.

9/6/2012 1:57:52 PM

Quote :

"I'm aware that this parade of suits is poorly written theater intended to manipulate the public. But I'm happy to watch and basically satisfied with this crap over the alternative--routine bloody upheaval and turmoil. I mean, do you have a civilized alternative that won't devolve into some version of what we have now? Is it rooted in our current reality?[quote] I don't advocate violent revolution. Typically, violent revolutions end up putting the most violent people in power, so clearly that cannot be the solution. I understand that people primarily value stability. Big systemic changes are scary. I'm not certain if political solutions actually work, but if they do, we should start by eliminating the obviously bad policies - drug war, real wars, financial bailouts, etc. [quote]To be clear, I also believe there are a lot of people involved in politics who are genuine in their efforts to assert the rights of people. Nobody thinks Supplanter is disingenuous in efforts, right?"

No, I think many of the foot soldiers for political causes are genuine, I just happen to think they're also misguided. For me, the knowledge that there's a marginally greater degree of "equality" in the U.S. doesn't make me feel better about people being slaughtered abroad.

Quote :

"If you’re telling me to take my ball to a more meaningful alternative, then tell on. But it sounds like you’re telling me to take my ball and go home…?"

You could support a third party. I doubt it'll do any good. If voting changed anything, it would be illegal, right?

9/6/2012 1:59:55 PM

So if they made a law banning the constitution which outlines our unalienable rights, you believe that's in within their right.

Unbelievable.

Quote :

" Well you would have needed to be more specific with who "they" are before I could have responded appropriately. "

No, I don't. It's completely irrelevant WHO passes it,.

Quote :

" But you have just posted a picture of a man jerking off. So maybe I should rethink responding to you at all."

I don't give a fuck. You're incapable of understanding the upper and lower bounds of the Constitution. It's quite pathetic.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2012 2:04:04 PM

Quote :

"d357r0y3r: I don't advocate violent revolution. Typically, violent revolutions end up putting the most violent people in power, so clearly that cannot be the solution. I understand that people primarily value stability. Big systemic changes are scary. I'm not certain if political solutions actually work, but if they do, we should start by eliminating the obviously bad policies - drug war, real wars, financial bailouts, etc."

Sounds good to me!

Quote :

"d357r0y3r: No, I think many of the foot soldiers for political causes are genuine, I just happen to think they're also misguided. For me, the knowledge that there's a marginally greater degree of "equality" in the U.S. doesn't make me feel better about people being slaughtered abroad."

But how can they be misguided when they are pursuing the only options available to them? Voting, protesting, running for political office, lobbying people who are already in office, educating people, messaging the masses...what are the well- guided things they should do instead?

Quote :

"d357r0y3r: You could support a third party. I doubt it'll do any good. If voting changed anything, it would be illegal, right?"

From your previous post, I thought you would advocate something much more extreme than voting for a third party. I definitely already do that.

9/6/2012 2:22:38 PM

Quote :

"d357r0y3r: I don't advocate violent revolution. Typically, violent revolutions end up putting the most violent people in power, so clearly that cannot be the solution. I understand that people primarily value stability. Big systemic changes are scary. I'm not certain if political solutions actually work, but if they do, we should start by eliminating the obviously bad policies - drug war, real wars, financial bailouts, etc."

Sounds good to me!

Quote :

"d357r0y3r: No, I think many of the foot soldiers for political causes are genuine, I just happen to think they're also misguided. For me, the knowledge that there's a marginally greater degree of "equality" in the U.S. doesn't make me feel better about people being slaughtered abroad."

But how can they be misguided when they are pursuing the only options available to them? Voting, protesting, running for political office, lobbying people who are already in office, educating people, messaging the masses...what are the well- guided things they should do instead?

Quote :

"d357r0y3r: You could support a third party. I doubt it'll do any good. If voting changed anything, it would be illegal, right?"

From your previous post, I thought you would advocate something much more extreme than voting for a third party. I definitely already do that.

So if they made a law banning the constitution which outlines our unalienable rights, you believe that's in within their right.

Unbelievable.

Quote :

" Well you would have needed to be more specific with who "they" are before I could have responded appropriately. "

No, I don't. It's completely irrelevant WHO passes it,.

Quote :

" But you have just posted a picture of a man jerking off. So maybe I should rethink responding to you at all."

I don't give a fuck. You're incapable of understanding the upper and lower bounds of the Constitution. It's quite pathetic.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM. Reason : .]

Quote :

"I'm aware that this parade of suits is poorly written theater intended to manipulate the public. But I'm happy to watch and basically satisfied with this crap over the alternative--routine bloody upheaval and turmoil. I mean, do you have a civilized alternative that won't devolve into some version of what we have now? Is it rooted in our current reality?[quote] I don't advocate violent revolution. Typically, violent revolutions end up putting the most violent people in power, so clearly that cannot be the solution. I understand that people primarily value stability. Big systemic changes are scary. I'm not certain if political solutions actually work, but if they do, we should start by eliminating the obviously bad policies - drug war, real wars, financial bailouts, etc. [quote]To be clear, I also believe there are a lot of people involved in politics who are genuine in their efforts to assert the rights of people. Nobody thinks Supplanter is disingenuous in efforts, right?"

No, I think many of the foot soldiers for political causes are genuine, I just happen to think they're also misguided. For me, the knowledge that there's a marginally greater degree of "equality" in the U.S. doesn't make me feel better about people being slaughtered abroad.

Quote :

"If you’re telling me to take my ball to a more meaningful alternative, then tell on. But it sounds like you’re telling me to take my ball and go home…?"

You could support a third party. I doubt it'll do any good. If voting changed anything, it would be illegal, right?

9/6/2012 2:25:12 PM

9/6/2012 2:25:33 PM

But he said he could.

He said he would cut the deficit in half and have unemployment under 7% or it would be a one term proposition. Now he wants more time

[/devils advocate]

I can honestly say I hate what Washington has become, and you can't place all the blame on Obama and Democrats, just like you can't put all the blame on the GOP. They all hold some blame, they need to remember how to compromise.

9/6/2012 2:55:38 PM

Quote :

"@KimKardashian: Official DNC after party at Club Hush in Charlotte, NC! "

All the douchebags have congregated in the douchebag capital of the South!!

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM. Reason : V Yes. There is no such thing as a retweet.]

9/6/2012 3:42:34 PM

did you just own up to following Kim Kardashian on twitter?

9/6/2012 3:46:17 PM

woops

9/6/2012 3:49:05 PM

Democrats: Let's Ban Profits!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07fTsF5BiSM

9/6/2012 4:48:27 PM

obama is such a piece of shit. why is this even an issue.

9/6/2012 4:55:54 PM

Quote :

"Obama is such a piece of shit. why is this even an issue."

It's an issue because something to the tune of 40,000,000 people in the US still believe his lies which will lead to our demise.

9/6/2012 4:59:13 PM

9/6/2012 5:20:14 PM

^

9/6/2012 5:24:28 PM

^^Might want to check the numbers, Bubba.



[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 5:33 PM. Reason : ...]

9/6/2012 5:31:33 PM

9/6/2012 5:53:08 PM

^^^^

I've got no hate for Reagan. He and Clinton got things done... but this was interesting.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/in-looking-back-four-years-voters-have-short-memories/

9/6/2012 6:02:41 PM

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"You know who you're going to vote for, and you proved that when you dismissed women's issues as a "manufactured problem." Maybe you're unaware, but the steps that have been taken all across this country to limit reproductive rights are very, very real...there is nothing manufactured about it. So you're either very ignorant or you're exceptionally biased in favor of conservatives. I think it might be both."

[NO]

1. I currently plan on voting for Gary Johnson (L). I have only voted (R) for President once; that was W. Bush back in 2000. I grudgingly voted Badnarik (L) in '04, due to being beyond fed up with W. Bush (I finally decided to vote L that year over not voting about a couple of hours before the polls closed).

If Gary Johnson goes full retard now that he's on the LP ticket, I'll just write in No Confidence like I sometimes do. For example, I did that in '08 (and went so far as to mail in an absentee ballot from Iraq just to vote "No Confidence")--and that was after voting for McCain in the primary.

I assure you that I am neither very ignorant nor very biased in favor of conservatives (at least not in the current GOP sense), and I don't know what the hell you'd call me if not an independent/swing voter--I just almost never swing Democrat (I swing between R, L, and 'fuck it").



2. When I said "manufactured problem", I meant the supposed "war on women", which is imaginary. There is a campaign to limit abortion and federal funding for BC, but that isn't a "war on women"--the motivation isn't misogyny. That's analogous to the fringe-right wing saying that Obama pulling us out of Iraq/Afghanistan amounts to him being a militant-Muslim sympathizer.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 6:49 PM. Reason : I've got no hate for Reagan. He and Clinton got things done.]

9/6/2012 6:48:44 PM

9/6/2012 6:49:41 PM

[no homo]I like you duke. I like you a lot.[/no homo]

9/6/2012 6:50:34 PM

^^^?

You've just described exactly what I said in my original post:

Quote :

"There are certainly people who switch parties, but they don't necessarily do it routinely, and they tend to do it for external reasons that a candidate can't really control all that much. For example, Obama could certainly play up Bush's failures and win over moderate conservatives for one election, but the fact that Bush was horrible wasn't really in Obama's control. Also, true swing voters are often drawn to third party candidates."

And given your description of yourself as a swing voter, you really think candidates should duke it out trying to earn the swing vote? Even though you're admitting it's very unlikely you're going to swing Democrat and you've otherwise been voting third party/no confidence except for Bush one time?

(And it is partly motivated by misogyny. Otherwise, guys like Romney would have harsher words for Viagra-fueld men like Limbaugh who go around calling women sluts because they take birth control.)


And while I can edit, I should add that the post you were agreeing with was agreeing with this post:

Quote :

"Eaton Bush: Its a made up issue like so many of the other "issues" that are being rolled out to take attention away from the real issue of the shitty economy, high deficit and unemployment."

You, DaBird, and Eaton Bush (excellent company you have there) seem to be pushing this notion that women's issues are not real issues. They are made up and manufactured by the Democratic Party to woo potential Republican voters and third party voters to vote for Democrats. But, like I've said (and you've agreed), they are very real issues right now.

So I don't think you've really explained your post about it being a "manufactured problem." Is it just the rhetorical device, "war on women," that you object to? Cause you didn't mention the "War on Women" in your original post and you seemed to be talking about a lot more than rhetoric.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 7:33 PM. Reason : Blah.]

9/6/2012 7:05:14 PM

Bo Biden? Wasn't he on American Idol?

Looks like he had a haircut since.

9/6/2012 7:09:43 PM

I wish a strand of AIDS hit the arena every time they play awful 70s/80s music.

** awful thoughts aside, I wonder if Hussein's speech tonight is amended to mention that NASDAQ closed it's highest since December 2000 and the S&P and Dow are each at highs since January 2008?

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 7:27 PM. Reason : x]

9/6/2012 7:15:30 PM

Quote :

"FACT: The Foo Fighters' lead singer is Dave Grohl, who was the drummer for Nirvana."

9/6/2012 7:26:51 PM

Me, continued:

While I think the "war on women" is rhetorically over-the-top (and I suspect it's supposed to be), I also think this business about women's issues being "a made up issue," "shit for the simpletons to eat up," is an even more extreme kind of rhetoric.

And at least "war on women" points to real issues of the day.

The "shit for simpletons" points to what? Don't be worried about Republicans. Secretly, they aren't going to pursue the platform that openly affects women. And please ignore the fact that they already have pursued it in the United States and all over the world for at least a decade. ?

9/6/2012 8:01:35 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/fact-check-4-5-million-jobs-created-under-175621036--election.html

I like the pics!

9/6/2012 8:07:51 PM

Who is this Montana governor?

He's peddling one hell of a deal.

9/6/2012 8:31:58 PM

Montana Gov Said "GIT ER DONE"

9/6/2012 8:36:38 PM

I find it interesting that John Kerry is basically just up there talking shit. Like that guy has any room at all to make fun of anyone for anything. What a cocknozzle.

9/6/2012 8:55:17 PM

He can talk shit about foreign policy and fighting wars. He actually does have credibility there

9/6/2012 8:58:07 PM

I thought it was awesome. LOL And he is right that Mitt Romney doesn't have experience with foreign policy.

9/6/2012 8:58:28 PM

John Kerry, I'll always thin of him as the Heinz ketchup gals husband. Mr. Mrs. Heinz ketchup.

Mittens is just as knowledgeable about foreign policy as Obama was when he was elected. The administration touts their foreign policy advantage like it's a huge edge. It's really not, and if they were so inclined it would be easy for the republicans to talk about how Obama has followed up on almost none of his promises like closing gitmo, how we continue to murder innocent civilians via drones, etc.

Of course, they won't because these policies will continue under whichever president we end up with next. It's amazing, Obama has been quite possibly the worst president in history in terms of civil rights, but the republicans can't attack him there because that would mean wanting to end the drug war, maybe stop killing civilians with drones, give people trials, etc.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 9:04 PM. Reason : asf]

9/6/2012 9:03:31 PM

Quote :

"John Kerry, I'll always thin of him as the Heinz ketchup gals husband"

sick burn

9/6/2012 9:06:45 PM

its like the speech writers tonight just googled republican speeches from the 2004 republican convention and changed a few words and phrases

"our opponents says we need to make america better, america is already the greatest" blah blah

9/6/2012 9:07:20 PM

^I don't remember much about 2004, but I'm definitely not picking up what the Democrats are laying down tonight so you may be on to something.

9/6/2012 9:10:41 PM

i've watched all the coverages pretty much, i think UNC-TV has the best

9/6/2012 9:13:45 PM

Awesome line from John Kerry:

"Ask Osama bin Laden if he is better off now than he was four years ago"

9/6/2012 9:18:59 PM

That Virginia gov pissed me off. It wasn't the blatant lying, it was his response to the war on women as saying " they just need to learn to want what we want... For their kids"

Total bs, way to win the women over

9/6/2012 9:23:57 PM

Aw shit its the Gaff Master.

9/6/2012 9:25:07 PM

There is no war on women in the US.
Go to any Arab country... thats a war on women!

9/6/2012 9:26:27 PM

And any perceived war on women is just to keep the crazies on the religious right pump up. Romney is a northeast Republican; he doesn't believe any of that crap.

9/6/2012 9:28:04 PM

is the narrator in the Biden commercial they just ran the same guy who is like "In a world gone mad...comes a Mark Zuckerberg film about..."

9/6/2012 9:28:55 PM