FOX 40 of Binghamton, NY ran a 2-part story on "Loose Change", a student documentary on 9/11, alleging government involvemnent in the 9/11 attacks. The story is notable in that it did not portray these skeptics of the official story as "nuts", but was unbiased (for the most part) and allowed the skeptics to present their argument.

Here's the links to the story and video from the FOX 40 website.

Part 1 of story
http://www.wicz.com/news2005/viewarticle.asp?a=282

VIDEO-part 1: http://www.wicz.com/fox40/video.asp?video=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eefxiomega%2Ecom%2Fwicz%2F2005%2D12%2D01%2DTrade%2DCenter%2DAttack%2Ewmv

Part 2 of story
http://www.wicz.com/news2005/viewarticle.asp?a=291

VIDEO-part 2: http://www.wicz.com/fox40/video.asp?video=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eefxiomega%2Ecom%2Fwicz%2F2005%2D12%2D02%2DTerror%2DConspiracy%2Ewmv


Another source for the video of the FOX 40 "Loose Change" story
http://tree3.com/video/fox.wmv (part 1 only)


Reference source:

http://www.stopthelie.com/911_story_pulled.html

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"9/11 Story Pulled SURE we've got a "Free Press" in America. HA! We were amazed that a FOX affiliate had actually done a story on 9/11 that WASN'T a "tinfoil hat" hit piece. ...So amazed in fact that we linked to their website so other people could see for themselves. -Oh, but our amazement was short lived. Within days, the story was killed, the transcript removed from their website, the video links taken down, and all references in the archives were gone. POOF, just like that, it never existed. Wouldn't you love to know who "gave the order" to make that story disappear without a trace? They must be pretty powerful, huh? This only further reinforces what we already know: There is a deliberate effort by the mainstream media to suppress the irrefutable evidence of a 9/11 cover up. [...] UPDATE: Unbelievable! There is apparently a battle going on at that station because the links are now back up. I went through that site myself...all references had been removed. Now the story is back on the home page, in the archives, and the original pages (below) have been restored. VERRRYYY Interesting. When I first posted this story (before the links had been taken down) I said we should write the station and THANK the brave reporters who put the piece together. Well, maybe we owe them an even bigger thanks. It looks like they not only had the courage to report on this; they also had the courage to fight having it squashed."

[Edited on December 5, 2005 at 10:41 AM. Reason : `]

12/5/2005 10:15:40 AM

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"a student documentary"

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12/5/2005 10:38:02 AM

yeah, students have never created anything of value....

oh wait -
http://www.google.com/intl/en/corporate/history.html
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/misc/history.html
http://www.sas.com/presscenter/bgndr_history.html

.... sorry - i hate to be the troll in a Salisburyboy thread, but just because a student did something doesn't make it irrelevant.
Of course, I'm saying this without knowing if this was a sophomore's semester Introduction to Debate project or something approaching a Master's thesis document.

12/5/2005 10:51:30 AM

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST JUST PUT THIS IN ONE OF YOUR OTHER THREADS YOU CRAZY WHACKO

12/5/2005 11:07:58 AM

^it's so sad that the govt has you brainwashed too.

12/5/2005 11:32:56 AM

so students are experts now, i see.

12/5/2005 11:56:19 AM

Loose Change-The Entire Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=loose+change

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"A one hour analysis of 9/11 and how it is more likely than not that the government was actually behind the attacks. Next to the work of Alex Jones, this is ranks up against the best of documentaries in the 9/11 Truth Movement Written and Directed by Dylan Avery 1 hour long. Take the Red Pill "

12/6/2005 10:45:08 AM

i guess the red pill is the crazy bullshit pill

12/6/2005 10:45:53 AM

i love how opinion/editorial pieces are now considered documentaries. i think we have that fat fuck moore to thank for that.

12/6/2005 11:38:51 AM

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"i love how opinion/editorial pieces are now considered documentaries."

Have you even seen "Loose Change"?

12/6/2005 11:52:02 AM

^^every documentary is going to be opinionated unless you're takling about Cinéma vérité

[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 11:53 AM. Reason : ]

12/6/2005 11:52:30 AM

Salisburyboy, it doesn't bother you that all of the conspiracy theorists that you associate yourself with are social rejects who use terms like "stuck in the matrix" and "take the red pill"?

12/6/2005 11:57:05 AM

Wow... you know, I don't put much weight on what salisburyboy says, but this is a pretty damn convincing documentary. 99% of the footage used is press released footage from major news networks so I wouldn't call it "conspiracy footage" from one of those websites he visits.

Anyway, you should all check it out.

12/6/2005 12:14:58 PM

it's not the video

it's the cracked out conclusions from delusional paranoid schizos

[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 12:37 PM. Reason : *]

12/6/2005 12:37:11 PM

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"delusional paranoid schizos"

Use blatant smear tactics like this enough, and maybe some of it will stick. Or will it start to backfire? Hmmmmm. We'll see.

12/6/2005 12:43:21 PM

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"but this is a pretty damn convincing documentary....Anyway, you should all check it out. "

This is what happens WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE, as opposed to ignoring the evidence because you think the conclusion is false and calling those you disagree with "delusional paranoid schizos."

I understand that it is difficult and hard for most people to believe that our government could be lying about or complicit in the 9/11 attacks. It was for me initially. But the evidence speaks for itself. The evidence doesn't lie. It doesn't matter if you want to believe the government is good and is telling the truth about 9/11. That doesn't make it so. To ignore the evidence and continue to believe what you want to believe is just living in denial.

Anyone who has been remotely paying attention can see that the official story on 9/11 doesn't add up and doesn't make sense. And after the lies about WMDs in Iraq, and the repeated subsequent lying from the government and the revelations about torture, how wise is it to just blindly trust the government?

More and more people are waking up to the truth about 9/11 because of the evidence. Lies cannot stand up against the truth. The fact that this government has little to no credibility is accelerating the spread of the truth as more and more people start questioning the government. That and the internet. I hope the internet remains free, but I am not optimistic. The ruling elite may have to nip this in the bud before knowing the truth about 9/11 and other issues is mainstream.

12/6/2005 1:02:44 PM

I watched the first 5 minutes of the Google link, and his analysis seems like BS to me.

But, I need a higher quality (preferably non-WMV link to really tell).

12/6/2005 1:16:13 PM

Skip ahead to around 26 minutes into the film (using the button on the control panel) and watch the portion where eyewitnesses, tv reporters, and firefighters discuss explosions in the WTC. This is a very powerful part of the film, and you don't need a good picture to appreciate it.

[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 1:38 PM. Reason : `]

12/6/2005 1:35:10 PM

prisonplanet has a QT link, but it's subscription only.

I know you have the hook-up there.

12/6/2005 1:41:39 PM

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"To ignore the evidence and continue to believe what you want to believe is just living in denial."

har har

12/6/2005 1:58:14 PM

^^^ A lot of those people say "collapse OR explosion" and I wouldn't expect any of them to be able to differentiate between the 2 when a building of that scale starts coming down. Plus, I would expect an airplane has parts and stuff in it that can burn and actually cause an explosion.

[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 1:59 PM. Reason : d]

12/6/2005 1:58:49 PM

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"I would expect an airplane has parts and stuff in it that can burn and actually cause an explosion"

Like, oh I don't know, thousands of gallons of jet fuel?

12/6/2005 2:00:14 PM

if there were missiles

what happened to all the people?

12/6/2005 2:15:33 PM

while you think you're clever, you must not be aware that we just found out about secret CIA bases in eastern europe.

eye-witness testimony is hardly credible, salisburyboy.

[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 3:33 PM. Reason : f]

12/6/2005 3:31:34 PM

Seriously how scared are you just walking around in public during the day? I would like to know.

12/6/2005 4:17:18 PM

he doesn't go out in public, duh

12/6/2005 4:25:31 PM

The cowards are the ones who are too afraid to look at (or acknowledge) the truth, especially when that truth may be painful or hard to swallow. It takes courage to look at and acknowledge a painful truth, and to take the responsibility that comes along with acknowledging that truth.

If I was a coward, wouldn't I just deny that all these facts are true, and just "convince myself" that everything is fine and there's nothing to worry about?

12/6/2005 4:29:02 PM

nah you convince yourself that bullshit and conspiracy theories are true

ALL OF THEM

OH HOW WE LOVE PRISONPLANET!!!1

12/6/2005 4:32:03 PM

Dude you never answered my question on how "you" know what the real "truth" is. And why do you give Alex Jones such credence. If you believe that material/people/media can be tampered with by the "higher ups" at the same time. Seeing is not always believing, so b/c one source might appear to be right, does not make it right. And these are your words. You are a walking/breathing/ paradox

How do you know what the "real truth" is, in a world of confusion and distortion? Your claims are nothing but pretentious statements...

I admit, the 9/11 story sounds fishy indeed. But who is to say that "okay, this is how it RRRRRREEEEEEALLLLLLLY happened". And "no no, we're right they're wrong"

look at it like this. You are fishing in a muddy pond, so you don't know what your are going to come up with.

[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 5:15 PM. Reason : Prententious individual]

12/6/2005 5:06:07 PM

bla

12/8/2005 10:00:59 AM

I have a hard time beliving that 9/11 happened on purpose or was planned or that somebody let it happen for some reason.

Mainly because a shitload of people died, if that many people died just to justify a war or to make somebody rich, and if people really were suddenly realizing this, then there would be violence, riots, revolution everwhere. You can't just break the record for death toll on American soil on purpose and expect the population to accept it, if there really was truth to this idea then there would be alot more violence around. Hell if you took this seriously yourself you should be getting violent, organizing a revolution, something, anything. I don't see anything of the sort happening so I feel like this is just a story and not a reality. If the witnesses really observed a staged devestation like that I think they would react much more emotionally, especially if their family members died, their would be assasinations, protests, violent opposition, but there is barely anything other than sensationalism.

[Edited on December 8, 2005 at 10:27 AM. Reason : punctuation]

[Edited on December 8, 2005 at 10:28 AM. Reason : spelling]

12/8/2005 10:26:44 AM