if this happens..

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/US/Bush_Family/

I think I've done well enough to keep fairly quiet for the last year or so, and I was planning to not bitch too much more from now until 2008. This may drive me over the edge.

5/10/2006 4:51:00 PM

he could never win a primary

5/10/2006 4:51:30 PM

i totally think JEB can pull this off.


2008 JEB BUSH !!!

5/10/2006 4:51:36 PM

oh and, use fucking real titles

5/10/2006 4:51:53 PM

^ i agreed with that post until i realized that it didn't say 'titties'

5/10/2006 4:53:37 PM

go ahead and leave now.

5/10/2006 5:59:28 PM

I am voting for him just so you will move.

5/10/2006 6:05:46 PM

Just to be clear here...

You hate his views or you just hate his family members so you'll bail on America?
Because if its the latter, you're a douche, the former will allow you status of just as dumb as a Baldwin

5/10/2006 6:13:09 PM

THERE'S NO GODDAMN WAY...

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT'S POSSIBLE.

5/10/2006 6:20:12 PM

so you people like jeb b/c of his views or b/c hes a bush?

5/10/2006 6:23:41 PM

the Hispanic Bush will run someday in the not too distant future

5/10/2006 6:37:25 PM

I like jeb bush quite a bit, he speaks properly and is a very competent person. However, I have come to utterly despise his brother... I might vote against him just for having such a stupid brother, but I hope I can see past it, we all have idiotic family members we wished didn't exist.

5/10/2006 6:54:25 PM

usually crazy uncle chuckie doesnt become president of the western hemisphere, tho.

5/10/2006 7:01:52 PM

You conservatives keep pushing for a return to hereditary divine right monarchy and you’ll end up with another fruit in office like King James… sure he gave you an inerrant version of the bible that you all seem to enjoy so much… but he was also fond of 17 year old guys.

5/10/2006 7:20:24 PM

for me, this has nothing to do with whether I approve of Jeb Bush or his views

I don't want a god damn MONARCHY

that's not the way we run shit around here

5/10/2006 7:20:50 PM

bush has been shifting wealth to the nobles with the tax cuts for the wealthy, of course they are going to back/fund the campaign necessary for the next heir to step up to the throne

5/10/2006 7:23:39 PM

^ tut tut tut! watch out for the charts soon to decend upon you from our Libertarian friends!

5/10/2006 7:39:40 PM

Actually, according to my favorite anarcho-capitalist website being a libertarian usually results in a far higher per-capita chart creation rate compared to other political idiologies.

We like to think it is because we are the only ones expousing an idiology based upon the actual workings of reality and like all idiologies we enjoy having our beliefs reinforced.

[Edited on May 10, 2006 at 7:53 PM. Reason : .,.]

5/10/2006 7:52:58 PM

Jeb's too much of a tart to appeal to the GW crowd.

5/10/2006 7:58:32 PM

Quote :

"being a libertarian usually results in a far higher per-capita chart creation rate"

so you guys create a lot of charts? i wondered what y'all were doing, living down in your parent's basement. and here i thought you were just reading comic books all day.

5/11/2006 12:28:59 AM

It'll never happen.

I hope.

I hear Montreal is nice this time of year.

5/11/2006 12:30:51 AM

To answer a previous question...

I don't know how I feel about Jeb Bush because I've never heard him espouse his views. I'd research it before I decided to support him or not.
And it would have nothing to do with his lineage


Also, why is Hillary Clinton not like a monarchy?

[Edited on May 11, 2006 at 12:49 AM. Reason : .]

5/11/2006 12:48:53 AM

Quote :

"why is Hillary Clinton not like a monarchy"

because a monarchical line of succession is from parent to child. not from spouse to spouse.

FWIW, i dont know what the fuck you would call that.

All I have to say is it would be a fatal error for the democrats to pick Hillary as presidental candidate.

from a progressive perspective, shes got about as much credibility as Lieberman. On the other side, a lot of republicans are too embarrassed to support their party right now. But put Hillary in the race, and holy shit will they come out of the woodwork to vote against her. Their hatred for her is pathological.

5/11/2006 1:16:04 AM

Quote :

"younger brother Jeb would make a great one, too"

5/11/2006 1:19:17 AM

LEAVE. we need more room for mexicans anyway

5/11/2006 1:20:38 AM

Bush is pure evil. Move up to canada, lefties - pay your 50% income taxe, the 15% sales tax on every purchase and wait a year to have a simple medical procedure. Go for it.

5/11/2006 7:57:27 AM

Quote :

"I don't know how I feel about Jeb Bush because I've never heard him espouse his views"

Are the views espoused by 2000 Campaign Bush really that similar to the views espoused by 2006 President Bush?

just don't vote for this fucking family anymore

5/11/2006 9:17:48 AM

God I hope he doesn't run... I've had enough Bush for a while...

5/11/2006 9:28:52 AM

i hope all of your friends follow you to canada

5/11/2006 11:32:24 AM

i would move to Canada but its too cold. Im thinking about New Zealand. Less rednecks and more asians.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Taxes/P148855.asp?GT1=8011

and this is a good article. Canada doesnt have much higher taxes than we do and many places around the world have much lower taxes. And the fact I dont want kids makes this even cooler. Just dont have kids in Turkey tho.


and NC has one of the highest gas taxes. wtf
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Taxes/P111921.asp

[Edited on May 11, 2006 at 12:46 PM. Reason : !]

5/11/2006 12:33:55 PM

go ahead and leave plz, thank you

5/11/2006 1:11:20 PM

if all the liberals leave then this country would be pretty boring.

not to mention the music industry would turn pretty shitty too.

[Edited on May 11, 2006 at 1:36 PM. Reason : !]

5/11/2006 1:35:29 PM

This will be my new home in 5 days. Orange county isn't exactly Canada, but its how north carolina does blue counties. I'm not actually moving there b/c of the politics (& definitely not b/c of loyalty to the school, although i am fond of their college street/town feel), but for work/convenience since I'm graduating this semester. A canada liberal I imagine is farther left than a north carolina liberal though.

[Edited on May 11, 2006 at 2:17 PM. Reason : .]

5/11/2006 2:15:40 PM

CNN:

Quote :

"Members of Congress expressed concern Thursday about the report. (Watch angry senator say "Shame on us" -- 3:56) "It's our government, government of every single American -- Republican, Democrat or independent," said Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. "...Those entrusted with great power have a duty to answer to Americans what they are doing." In the House, Majority Leader Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, said, "I'm concerned about what I read with regard to the NSA database of phone calls. ... I'm not sure why it's necessary to us to keep and have that kind of information." Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania, said he would call on representatives from the companies named in the USA Today story, AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, to testify."

Quote :

"President Bush has argued that the resolution authorizing military action after the 9/11 attacks, along with his authority as commander-in-chief of the military, give him the power to initiate the program without a court order, as a 1978 law requires. The Justice Department has been denied security clearances for access to information, which prompted it to drop an investigation into the program. (Full story) The Democrats' No. 2 member of the Senate, Sen. Richard Durbin, called the development "evidence of a coverup." "The fact ... that the Department of Justice has abandoned their own investigation of this administration's wrongdoing because there's been a refusal to give investigators security clearances is clear evidence of a coverup within the administration." "

Absolute power for an absolute monarch

[Edited on May 11, 2006 at 3:02 PM. Reason : .]

5/11/2006 3:01:35 PM

id rather have him as a lame duck then cheney in charge

5/11/2006 3:03:41 PM

I remember when Dubya ran, a lot of people commented that the wrong Bush ran for office. Jeb was the one apparently being groomed for the office, but it was by some fluke that he lost, Dubya took over Texas, and then later, Dubya actually got into office.

I'd give Jeb a chance; maybe more of his father rubbed off on him than on our current President.

5/11/2006 5:32:42 PM

don't be gay joel

another bush would be kinda gay


but this is a whole nother level

5/11/2006 5:34:04 PM

maybe 3 wrongs make a right

5/11/2006 5:47:08 PM

Jeb is a lot brighter than GW

5/11/2006 9:07:01 PM

Isn't McCain running again? I used to be more fond of him than I am now with some of his actions and some bush stuff his has backed, but he's still better than another bush in office.

5/11/2006 9:09:10 PM

fuck mccain. and fuck his ol' lady, too.

and fuck all the rest of the republicans.

and especially fuck right in the asshole with a rake handle, any motherfucker who is in the 31% who actually approve of the job Bush is doing.

[/rational discourse]

5/12/2006 2:01:57 AM

George Bush is an idiot, but he's not as stupid as I think many people think he is.
In my opinion, I think his decisions are made by a lot of nameless, faceless, and very rich outside influences. Jeb Bush, as competent as he may seem, will inevitably bend over like his brother. There's his father, Cheney, a whole bunch of other conservatives breating down his neck, and let's not forget the corporate club. This is just my opinion; don't take it at face value, but...

Jeb Bush will never win the presidency. After 8 years of GWB, there's no fucking way the american people are gonna put in another Bush

5/12/2006 4:18:52 AM

^thats what people said after the first 4 years of gw

5/12/2006 12:04:11 PM

^ true, I shouldn't have underestimated the stupidity of the American South/Midwest

5/12/2006 5:25:35 PM

soon, they'll run out of Bush's

and people like Kurt Busch will have to run

5/12/2006 6:11:25 PM

or maybe a Budtzch?

5/12/2006 6:13:03 PM

5/13/2006 8:37:12 AM

Quote :

"soon, they'll run out of Bush's"

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=393945

5/13/2006 7:53:37 PM

^^heaven help us if Butch and Luke run for public office...

5/13/2006 9:05:59 PM