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I doubt they've already made a complete changeover if it just got announced

here we go...

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"Beginning April 1, parking operations at the Blount Street parking deck will change to accommodate tenants of the nearby soon-to-be-completed SkyHouse Raleigh and Edison apartment complexes. Public parking at the deck will be impacted:

The deck will be available for public parking from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. Monday through Friday only. Evening and weekend parking will not be available to the public; and,
The deck will be reserved for apartment tenant parking only from 7 p.m. through 7 a.m. Monday through Friday, and 24 hours a day on weekends and City of Raleigh-observed holidays.

The change is being made in response to previously made contractual requirements. In 2006 the City partnered with a local development company, Edison Parking LLC., to build the Blount Street parking deck as the first stage of a much broader development which includes the SkyHouse Raleigh and Edison apartment residential projects. The development agreement provided that the City would operate the deck as usual for public parking until the projects were completed, after which time there would be restrictions to provide for exclusive parking at certain times for the residential tenants and their guests.
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Customers who use Blount Street deck from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Monday to Friday will not experience any changes. Those who normally park in this deck in the evenings or on weekends will need to prepare to park in another deck or parking lot. Commencing April 1, overhead gates installed in all vehicular entrances and exits at the deck and gates at both pedestrian doors will automatically close at 7 p.m. The gates will remain closed until 7 a.m. weekdays and for a full 24 hours each weekend day and all City-observed holidays.

For vehicles that remain parked after 7 p.m., emergency access will require a customer to use one of the intercoms installed at the pedestrian entrances on Wilmington Street or Blount Street to request access from a McLaurin Parking representative. Vehicles will be able to depart in the normal manner by driving to an exit lane and paying the appropriate parking fees due, after which the gate will automatically raise. Cash and credit card (Visa/MasterCard/Discover) payments are accepted. Owners of unauthorized vehicles that remain parked during restricted hours may be subject to additional penalty."

http://www.raleighnc.gov/home/news/content/CorNews/Articles/BlountStreetParkingDeck.html

[Edited on March 21, 2015 at 2:47 AM. Reason : ]

3/21/2015 2:44:54 AM

Mr. Joshua
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I never understood why the Blount Street deck was on Hillsborough Street to begin with.

3/21/2015 4:34:01 PM

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well, this kinda sucks, but i guess there are other decks close by.


[Edited on March 21, 2015 at 4:35 PM. Reason : nm can't read]

3/21/2015 4:34:30 PM

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There is loads of parking downtown

3/21/2015 9:52:23 PM

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thats funny right there

3/23/2015 6:40:51 PM

fenway
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http://t.co/UP8fBrnNP7

A 'pay what you can cafe' coming to Hillsborough in place of one of the spaces going where Two Guys was.

4/23/2015 2:28:58 PM

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I'm sure the Hillsborough hobos will love stinking up that place instead of the Alley parking deck

4/29/2015 9:17:25 AM

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We got the shaft. HILL street is so much better now

4/30/2015 1:53:45 AM

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Hillsborough Street needs a pay as you go cereal bar with pizza and hot cookies. If only one of these investors had my business sense.

5/9/2015 9:02:53 AM

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http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/real-estate/2015/05/ihop-hillsborough-street-raleigh-nc-stanhope.html

Ihop on Hillsborough moving into one of the spots underneath the Stanhope apartments.

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Taco place going in on the ground level of the Hillsborough/Maiden Lane hotel too.

5/13/2015 6:08:52 PM

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Speaking of maiden lane, are they ever going to knock down those shifty frat houses?

5/23/2015 10:24:30 AM

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Another apartment building announced for Hillsborough St

- Corner of Hillsborough Street and Friendly Drive, next to Zaxbys (i'm assuming in the parking lot beside them)
- 16-unit apartment qirh one, two and four-bedroom apartments, including four penthouse units on the fifth floor
- Ground level retail space



http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/real-estate/2015/07/105-friendly-apartments-hillsborough-st-raleigh-nc.html

[Edited on July 27, 2015 at 9:31 AM. Reason : link]

7/27/2015 9:30:59 AM

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^ I saw that same TBJ article, but that thing was announced a while ago and the structure is already going up from what I remember the last time I drove down Hillsborough. Going in the lot where that old Sakura Express was infront of UT, next to Zaxbys.

7/27/2015 1:48:16 PM

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place is already looking super nice. Hell that whole area is. We got shitted on between 2000-2007

7/27/2015 10:51:17 PM

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"We got shitted on between 2000-2007"


Yup, between this and most stuff that's been updated/constructed on campus

7/28/2015 8:50:40 AM

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while i agree with the comments about campus, i'm not certain i'd describe what west hillsborough street is turning into as "nice". certainly more contemporary but i believe that the entire area is lacking in architectural character and that the area is becoming more of a mix match of developer driven projects, rather than a planned vision.

7/28/2015 4:04:32 PM

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fenway and skaterjaws I'm pretty sure this is a completely separate from the one they are almost done with at the old Sakura Express site that y'all are talking about. That building is called 2811 Hillsborough. This is on the other side of Zaxbys on Friendly Dr. So this isn't the same one that was announced a while ago, but a new one.

This one is located on Friendly Drive, where that house that was a flowershop used to be but isnt there anymore. I'm almost positive this is a completely new building. This is going to be a smaller, 16 unit apartment building.

http://www.liveonhillsborough.com/2811- 2811 Hillsborough (30 unit apartment)

A map might help.

7/29/2015 10:25:24 AM

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So my guess is that all of this will be college housing, right? I'm uncertain how many others, save a few new grads, would be excited about living that close to a college campus. Since college students aren't exactly renown for taking good care of property, I suspect these will become run down slums in just a few short years.

Does that really seem like the best way to launch into a revitalization?

7/29/2015 1:44:45 PM

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"I suspect these will become run down slums in just a few short years"


I suspect u dumb.

7/29/2015 1:53:44 PM

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any reason behind that or just blanket commentary

7/29/2015 2:02:35 PM

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Student housing right beside the university is still good, it's a lot better than requiring people to commute from apartments far from campus. the more students who live on or beside campus, the more vibrant campus is and the more patrons there are to walk to businesses on hillsborough street.

It's a different kind of revitalization, but equally critical

7/29/2015 3:48:44 PM

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I agree with that and would probably be stoked if I were 18 - 21. Hell, maybe if I were still 23 or 24 and liked the idea of expanding that scene for youth.

Now i'm a 32yo fuddy duddy and want places that are populated by more than just students in the evening. I suppose it's fair to give that section of Hillsborough Street its due with that market.

I still suspect that these will become run down rather quickly. Although UT was nicer than my dorm, I still recall feeling it certainly showed it's age. This makes me have my doubts about gearing that area for development of dwellings with a relatively short half life.

7/29/2015 4:21:08 PM

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these are not being developed as dorms, they are apartments

7/29/2015 4:33:57 PM

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These brand new apartments will be slums within 3 years.

You heard it here first people.

7/29/2015 5:18:58 PM

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No shit. I fully expect that it will only be college undergrad to her living there. Much like UT, which is not a dorm, but technically an apartment. Most people will not want to live right across from in Seastate campus except for students or recent grads.

That isn't exactly a clientele that's known for keeping up good housing. Brent Road in the early 2000s is a good example. Or hell, the Abbey, Wolf Park, all these places. There are no committed people to the living area so it doesn't stay up to par.

7/29/2015 10:00:05 PM

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I drove by the 105 Friendly lot today. They have a fence up around it and have started work.

I honestly can't believe how small the lot is. No idea where they are going to park cars at, since the whole tiny lot will become the building.

7/30/2015 9:25:41 AM

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CupAJoe baristas were talking for a while about living in the building across the street when it came out. Then everyone saw the rent prices. Nope.

I'm more interested in the other end of Hillsborough St, namely where the Aloft is going in... largely because I live right next to it.

7/30/2015 10:26:49 AM

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^How do you feel about the 'Studio 1912' they are building at the Hillsborough Square site across from Aloft Hotel?

7/30/2015 12:53:01 PM

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"There are no committed people to the living area so it doesn't stay up to par."


Sure there is. It's called management/ownership. Little easier to enforce shit when everyone is in one building. The comparison with Brent Road is silly, given the management angle and the history of that road.

7/30/2015 1:25:37 PM

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Clearly you don't recall college apartments and how little effort management actually puts into repairs, upkeep, etc...

Even the "high end" ones, which the abbey was for quite some time, get run down after 3 years or so.

7/30/2015 2:15:23 PM

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With the investment that's been put into those buildings (the lot alone was probably millions) I doubt they're going to let a management company run them down any time soon. But I have a family friend whose son lives in one of the new ones that just went up over there where the Valentine lot was and he said the building was made with very cheap materials. Which most "college apartments" are I'd imagine. I could see that being the issue over time.

[Edited on July 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2015 2:48:56 PM

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I'm hoping with all the new apartments popping up all over Hillsborough there will be some new bars/restaurants taking up some of the open retail spots on the street (the ground level retail on the first floor of most of these buildings, plus other places like the old Hillsborough textbook place). Wouldn't mind seeing some the other shitty looking retail spots (like half of the places beneath/beside The Alley or the strip of storefronts where Pita Pit used to be) getting new tenants as well.

[Edited on July 31, 2015 at 12:35 PM. Reason : tbdv]

7/31/2015 12:33:39 PM

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From the gogoraleigh twitter account a few days ago:

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Varsity Grill is coming to the old Varsity Theater space on the row on Hillsborough St."


Can't find details anywhere else, but it would be really great to see something finally happen with that building.

8/15/2015 9:42:51 AM

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Looks like the Hotbox Pizza building got torn down. The last thing I'd heard about that was that the owner was adding a roof deck.

10/15/2015 10:17:29 AM

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lol

man i've now been here long enough to see the old victorian house that used to be there burn to the ground to see the place put up in its place be new, go through tenants and now get torn down

MEMORIEEEESSSSSS

10/15/2015 12:58:29 PM

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^Any photos of it that you've seen when the house was still there?

I like to see photos of Hillsborough as it once was, then get morose about the fact that it's gone.

[Edited on October 15, 2015 at 8:55 PM. Reason : y]

10/15/2015 8:55:04 PM

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lol at tearing down one of the only decent looking buildings on that stretch of Hillsborough.

10/16/2015 1:37:38 PM

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That building was a nondescript brick storefront; newer, but no nicer, than any of the others.

10/16/2015 6:34:43 PM

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You can't tell me that building didn't look better than the Alley and that strip where Chile Bomba/whatever it's called does. Chipotle to Bruegger's is the nicest looking strip (all things relative).

10/16/2015 7:32:46 PM

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dude but the Alley has those bad-ass column-balcony things...

10/16/2015 11:33:01 PM

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Before they went and defaced the Alley, it was an interesting modernist building. I won't call it pretty but it was definitely interesting. Now it's just tacky and sad.

And seriously? Chipotle to Bruegger's the best-looking strip? You're out of your damn mind. A bunch of single-story brick boxes with no character at all. You can't tell me with a straight face that's more attractive than the next block west. You're right that Golden Dragon/Chile Bomba is ugly. And Jasmin has been renovated so many times that the vintage character is pretty much gone. But the Mitch's building and the two-story segments between it and Golden Dragon are quite nice-looking old buldings with a lot of character, plus the old theater building.

[Edited on October 17, 2015 at 12:53 AM. Reason : Though I wish they could have kept the original marquee/neon.]

10/17/2015 12:52:50 AM

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We're pumped about the new Gonza's opening on Hillsborough street. It will be nice having one closer to Cary.

10/17/2015 9:22:09 AM

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The old Hot Box/Sylvia's building had a sign up in it's window for the last 2-3 years that said they were adding a roof deck in the Spring of 2014.

I walked down Hillsborough today and that building is now down, the old movie theatre/Hillsborough St. textbooks has a construction barrier up and they're doing something inside it, NY Pizza looks close to being done with a big renovation, and the old Two Guys/Keg spot has a sign out front that says the new apartment complex there will be called the Hillsborough St Lofts.

CVS in the bottom of Stanhope looks like it'll be opening relatively soon too.

10/17/2015 11:59:10 AM

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2304 Hillsborough Street (AKA Sylvia's/Hot Box Pizza)



They should rename Hillsborough Street as New City Design Boulevard.

10/20/2015 4:20:13 PM

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The Sylvia's building was certainly not fantastic architecture but it was not terrible either; it does seem a waste to tear it down when there is a parking lot right next door at 2306.

On the plus side, the parking lot remains open for the next 16-unit New City Design project with no parking.

I'm really waiting for New City to work their magic on that hideous Baptist Student Center between Gardner and Man-Mur. I have nothing wrong with Baptists nor with the fact that they have a student center. More power to them, in fact. But their building is a blight.

[Edited on October 20, 2015 at 4:29 PM. Reason : Blah]

10/20/2015 4:27:50 PM

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I'm looking forward to see who the ground level tenants will be at all of these new apartments popping up on Hillsborough. There's like 5 of them currently being built, in addition to the space left at the bottom of Stanhope.

10/20/2015 8:30:12 PM

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new mockup

10/21/2015 12:45:58 AM

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I heard there's a big TWW party coming up at the Stag. But I wasn't invited.

10/21/2015 12:51:29 AM

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RE the South Park reference, I get that gentrification can be taken to extremes and those extremes can be quite ridiculous and are really easy to parody but I will point out that just because something can be parodied doesn't make it a stupid idea.

In other words, argument by satire can be effective, but it is very prone to straw man arguments.

You don't have to look very far to find out that this fallacy is pervasive. Take for example:
-Monorail is parodied in the Simpsons so therefore rail transit must be stupid.
-Republicans are parodied by Stephen Colbert so they must be stupid.
-Redevelopment is parodied in South Park so it must be stupid.

In this case, it's true there may be some silliness in the redevelopment of Hillsborough Street. However, compare it with 15 years ago when I was on campus. Back then, most of Hillsborough was a dump, the butt of jokes, scary at night, and we were generally envious of Franklin Street. In light of this, I find the changes and redevelopment along Hillsborough over the past 5ish years to be an unambiguous improvement.

Anti-gentrification arguments don't really apply here, IMO. These are not working class families getting pushed out. University Park has pretty much always been a mix of well-to-do established residents and transient students. And that's still what it is today - only denser and with lots more things to do.

10/21/2015 12:35:59 PM

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"I'm really waiting for New City to work their magic on that hideous Baptist Student Center between Gardner and Man-Mur. I have nothing wrong with Baptists nor with the fact that they have a student center. More power to them, in fact. But their building is a blight."


Is this in the works or just wishful thinking? At this point I'd think that anyone wanting to develop that corner would likely try to assemble it with the Man-Mur parcel before going vertical. Pretty sure it's an absentee landlord and that coffee/barber/shoe rents fall short of the land value that could be placed on it.

10/21/2015 6:48:30 PM

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