Placidus Veteran 205 Posts user info edit post |
With these new attacks that just happen. http://www.cnn.com/ Do you think this will lead to another war? 7/13/2006 1:10:45 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
dropping missiles, blockading ports, retaliations, sounds like it is a war. 7/13/2006 1:12:53 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
these attacks are nothing but good for america and the world in general 7/13/2006 1:14:18 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^huh? 7/13/2006 1:15:15 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
that area of the world really sucks and has a lot of terrorists and oil which dont mix good
kill more of the terrorists = less terrorists to fuck it up for everyone else 7/13/2006 1:16:20 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
to me the attacks seem more likely to fuel terrorist preferences of using violence as a way to express themselves, versus a hypothetically more stable region, which could ultimately provide a lot of people the means the find non-violent ways to express their dissatisfaction. 7/13/2006 1:18:49 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
THANKS FOR THAT SPECIFIC LINK
oh and soap box, son, soap box 7/13/2006 1:19:14 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
1. this isn't "new". shit's been going on all fucking morning. 2. josh. think, man. think. this shit isn't going to magically stay within those countries' borders. this affects the whole world. just one, immediate example is that the dow was down 103+ points around 10:30am. i'm sure it's worse now. fucking gas prices are going to climb some more. this is just the start. 7/13/2006 1:25:28 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i'd prefer a lounge discussion over soap box. soap boxers are crazy weirdos for the most part
[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 1:28 PM. Reason : see what the masses think, kna mean] 7/13/2006 1:28:24 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^i agree 7/13/2006 1:29:47 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
tyrone...dude...seriously
we got enough nukes to fuck up the world tenfold and we could run shit 7/13/2006 1:31:08 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
this won't affect gasoline prices 7/13/2006 1:32:30 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^what!!!?? when a camel shits in the desert if affects oil prices. 7/13/2006 1:36:09 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^would they go up or down? 7/13/2006 1:37:45 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
eh, i guess it doesn't matter if Israel or Lebanon don't have any oil if everyone's stupidl 7/13/2006 1:38:07 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "would they go up or down? " |
depends on the consistency. 7/13/2006 1:39:16 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^^it's probably just the increase in probability that a bad thing in general will happen to the world in general. the worst state the world is in overall, the more likely that something bad happens to us right? (all other things kept equal)
[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 1:40 PM. Reason : adsf] 7/13/2006 1:40:21 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this won't affect gasoline prices" |
nigga...you crazy7/13/2006 1:44:01 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
The last excuse for inflated prices at the pump...
North Korea fires a few rockets into the ocean. So yeah, any sparklers go off in the Middle East and gas will go up. 7/13/2006 2:02:56 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this won't affect gasoline prices" |
it already has.7/13/2006 2:08:31 PM |
MrUniverse All American 26072 Posts user info edit post |
still wont detour me from buying a car that uses premium fuel only 7/13/2006 2:20:51 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
you people are morons
there is no oil in lebanon and israel
not to mention hezbollah is not a terrorist organization, they are the guerilla DEFENDERS of lebanon
they only act when acted upon 7/13/2006 2:24:14 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
saying that just because there is no oil in lebanon or isreal means it wont affect prices is a retarded statement 7/13/2006 2:25:35 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
a retarded statement is any statement you make regarding this issue 7/13/2006 2:26:47 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^^retarted isn't the word.......ignorant.
[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 2:28 PM. Reason : ^^] 7/13/2006 2:27:42 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
im refuse to argue with you morons 7/13/2006 2:28:59 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
yeah let me correct myself
saying that just because there is no oil in lebanon or isreal means it wont affect prices is an ignorant statement
plus i dont really trust your opinion ON THIS MATTER karim, i think you are on the terrorists side
[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 2:29 PM. Reason : .] 7/13/2006 2:29:01 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
i am on the side of the people defending their country
in this case lebanon
the palastine/israel thing was one thing, this is totally different
Without getting into much detail about the oil situation, there is no reason for this to make oil prices ridiculous
they will stay stable 7/13/2006 2:31:28 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
well at what point will people draw a line between terrorists and guerillas?
i'm getting to that point where it seems like nothing will ever be good enough to satisfy these "defenders" that kill innocent people on a regular basis 7/13/2006 2:33:34 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "not to mention hezbollah is not a terrorist organization, they are the guerilla DEFENDERS of lebanon " |
7/13/2006 2:33:55 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
wtf are you talking about
israel hit lebanon with missles
hezbollah responded
dont confuse hezbollah with the suicide bombers in palastine
[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 2:35 PM. Reason : .] 7/13/2006 2:34:51 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
because hezbollah took their soldiers 7/13/2006 2:35:17 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they will stay stable" |
oil prices are never stable.7/13/2006 2:35:50 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
by stable i mean nothing spectacular will happen to the normal fluctations 7/13/2006 2:38:53 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
we need a frame of reference here, by spectacular, are you talking about something like the crisis in the 70's? b/c i'll agree it won't be like that. When you say spectacular or stable, relativity is key. 7/13/2006 2:44:12 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "not to mention hezbollah is not a terrorist organization, they are the guerilla DEFENDERS of lebanon" |
is hezbollah endorsed by the goverment?
did hezbollah attack another country's official army?
ok then they are a terrorist organization
you cant just say that you are the defender of a country and have it be true7/13/2006 2:53:19 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "did hezbollah attack another country's official army" |
I think its attacking civilians for political reasons makes you a terrorist. the army is game.
[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 2:55 PM. Reason : but i do agree they are terrorists b/c they have done that.]7/13/2006 2:55:19 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "is hezbollah endorsed by the goverment?
did hezbollah attack another country's official army? " |
uhh
yes
and yes
btw when was the last time b4 all this happened that hezbollah attacked civilians in an offensive move7/13/2006 2:58:19 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
yea i'm not sure where i was going specifically saying attacking another country's army
the point is they are an illegitamite fighting group who use terror rather than diplomacy to win their battles
hezbollah, hamas and fatah may all have a few legitimate member who do not condone terrorist activity, but that does not mean they arent terrorist organizations 7/13/2006 2:58:30 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
you are saying the lebanese government endorses hezbollah as their army??
i just asked my lebanese office mate point blank "is hezbollah a terrorist group?"
"of course" 7/13/2006 2:59:34 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
just because members of the hezbollah political movement are in the lebanese legislature, does not mean that the gov't condones or can control the actions of the military wing of this group. 7/13/2006 3:01:23 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
doesn't matter if its offensive or reaction.7/13/2006 3:01:28 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
^^DING DING DING
we have a winner folks
tell him what he has won
[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 3:02 PM. Reason : (psss, you havent actually won anything, sorry)] 7/13/2006 3:01:46 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha so apparently hezbollah is denying they shot the rockets at isreal
i guess it was some OTHER terrorist guerilla defenders 7/13/2006 3:03:24 PM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
it's about time someone fights back against hezbollah murders 7/13/2006 3:33:15 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
what by bombing a populated international airport
they didnt bomb hezbollah, they bombed lebanon
big difference
israel is so arrogant, they think they can do what they want, it will catch up with them, and I cant wait
[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 3:37 PM. Reason : .] 7/13/2006 3:36:32 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
nah probably not 7/13/2006 3:38:39 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
its good to see that you arent defending a terrorist organization anymore
arguing about the intensity and direction of israel's response to the attacks is a valid discussion
saying hezbollah isnt a terrorist group is just ridiculous 7/13/2006 3:39:12 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
we just need to nuke that whole region and fuckin stop hearing about this shit. 7/13/2006 3:41:00 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
only if we can do it when the NY Yankees are visiting israel 7/13/2006 3:41:43 PM |