In the new upstairs space that's been vacant forever.

TieBreakers Bar and Grill

http://www.tie-breakers.com

They have one in Greenville currently. Anybody been there? Is it any good?

4/21/2007 9:36:22 AM

the ugly burger sounds tasty

4/21/2007 10:42:31 AM

looks good, but damon's grill will win over everything no matter what.

4/21/2007 11:09:43 AM

They make a big deal about being a sports bar/pool hall that is smoke free. This may suck for Sammy's. I know the food here can't be any worse.

Hrm, the beer selection at the Greenville location is pretty crappy. They are going to have to step that up to compete with other nearby bars.

[Edited on April 21, 2007 at 11:17 AM. Reason : ?]

4/21/2007 11:14:53 AM

where's this going to be?

by upstairs do you mean on the ABC store side?

4/21/2007 2:01:34 PM

by upstairs i think he's referring to the bulding with the battleship radar system on top

this is gonna fuck with sammy hardcore

MIGHT make him improve his shit

4/21/2007 2:04:31 PM

does Sammys still suck as bad as it did 3 years ago?

4/21/2007 2:09:29 PM

^^ Yea, it's the upstairs of the new building with the "battleship radar."

4/21/2007 2:16:07 PM

i'd be most likely to check this place out during a game

but i like to drink during games, so a couple additions to that beer list would be key

4/21/2007 2:20:44 PM

i would imagine its lame...it is raleigh afterall

4/21/2007 2:22:46 PM

^^ya that wasnt obvious by your post at all

i was trying to figure out the vacancy by the abc

4/21/2007 2:23:41 PM

I make a point to go to the one in Greenville every time I go back home to visit.
I am in love with their cheese fries.

4/21/2007 2:42:34 PM

smoke free?!
eff that.

4/21/2007 3:21:56 PM

when will this restaurant be open?

4/21/2007 3:26:07 PM

Lots of smokers still go to the one in Greenville because it's a good bar with a lot of stuff going on. They have an area set up outside for the smokers.

4/21/2007 3:27:02 PM

Mid-summer

From the N&O

Quote :

"At Mission Valley Shopping Center off Western Boulevard in Raleigh, Tie Breakers Bar & Grill has leased the space in the new building above Ba-Da Wings and Carvel. It will be the Greenville restaurant's second location and will be smoke-free. It will open mid-summer."

4/21/2007 6:22:26 PM

so i guess they're gonna compete with both Champions and Sammy's

and smoke free is great

4/21/2007 8:26:18 PM

the one in Greenville is pretty popular.

4/21/2007 8:44:55 PM

sign me up for smoke free dining/binge drinking

4/21/2007 8:45:48 PM

^

4/22/2007 3:09:43 PM

Not that good of a beer slection

4/22/2007 3:14:43 PM

Quote :

"looks good, but damon's grill will win over everything no matter what."

is this serious? because the food there sucks and it was the worst place i've ever worked. jax is even better

4/22/2007 3:21:36 PM

7 wings for 7 bucks... what a deal.

4/22/2007 5:14:33 PM

If the cues are worth stealing, I might go.

4/22/2007 5:17:53 PM

great. another fucking sports bar.

4/22/2007 6:30:14 PM

^we need more of those actually

and i thought that was supposed to become some small "delicacy" grocery store, along the lines of a dean & deluca... what ever happened to that

and a smoke free sports bar in NC- good luck...

4/22/2007 6:47:25 PM

being smoke-free is a pretty big draw for me. i could really care less if people smoke but i hate leaving a bar smelling like one of them. not trying to turn this into a smoking debate, just saying i think it could do well because of that.

4/22/2007 6:50:36 PM

That space is definitely going to be Tie Breakers. My brother and his best friend, who's brother-in-law owns the one in Greenville, are the one's who are opening the Raleigh location.

The one in Greenville does extremely well for a number of reasons, not just the fact that it is smoke free.

http://www.myspace.com/tiebreakersgreenvillenc

4/22/2007 7:24:27 PM

^^^ Originally it was going to be a Kroger, but they backed out before construction started, so they built a much smaller building. I think they had wanted to find a gourmet market for the upstairs space, but looks like they came up short. I wish they could have got a Trader Joe's in there.

4/22/2007 7:28:59 PM

^^tell them to offer some better wing specials and a better beer selection.

4/22/2007 7:31:35 PM

They have both told me that they're probably not going to be identical to the one in Greenville. I wouldn't be surprised if the menu and specials are somewhat different. Anyway, one of the guys opening it is a TWWer. . .I'm sure that he'll read this thread.

4/22/2007 7:36:27 PM

awesome. i'll probably check the place out... cheap wings is key.

4/22/2007 10:27:56 PM

yeah there is absolutely no reason 7 wings should be $7

beer selection is good enough for me, no reason to drink fancy shit at a sports bar anyway

4/22/2007 11:10:12 PM

i'm not asking for anything fancy, just something that tastes good

4/22/2007 11:15:51 PM

Their menu looks mighty mighty tasty. Most of the prices are also reasonable, although the appetizers are little pricy imo (I always hate it when appetizers cost as much as a main entree). I don't smoke, but I've never make a big stink about whether or not a place allows smokers. And I could care less about their beer selection, considering I pretty much never drink.

I might go to this place at least once just to try it out.

4/22/2007 11:36:39 PM

Quote :

"being smoke-free is a pretty big draw for me. i could really care less if people smoke but i hate leaving a bar smelling like one of them. not trying to turn this into a smoking debate, just saying i think it could do well because of that."

I couldnt have made a better post myself, exactly how I feel

4/22/2007 11:48:57 PM

^agreed

this is going to happen sooner or later anyway, mitches has taken the lead on no smoking.

4/22/2007 11:59:50 PM

no-smoking



I HATE HATE HATE leaving work reaking of cigarette smoke. I put my clothes directly into the laundry room when i get home after bartending.

As long as the place can have a patio or outdoor smoking area then they'll be fine.
Recent polls show that more and more people are in favor of non-smoking restaurants. Although I think NC will be one of the last states to change the law - it will happen eventually.
It happened years ago (2004 i think) in CT and I was bartending at the time and it really didn't affect business.

4/23/2007 10:57:57 AM

Quote :

"As long as the place can have a patio or outdoor smoking area then they'll be fine. Recent polls show that more and more people are in favor of non-smoking restaurants. Although I think NC will be one of the last states to change the law - it will happen eventually"

they'll be fine during the summer.....or maybe not, since there aren't really any sporting draws then, but people won't want to go outside to smoke when it's cold, and incidentally, when all the good sporting events are. Not saying they won't be successful, but it'll be interesting to see how economically strong the "I want to watch sports in a smoke free environment" crowd around here is.

actually the newest law, which has the most support from all groups still allows smoking in establishments that are age restricted (but gives local govs the right to be more harsh), after the total ban drew so many complaints, so I doubt a total ban will ever happen statewide.

[Edited on April 23, 2007 at 11:26 AM. Reason : .]

4/23/2007 11:20:09 AM

well it was in Feb. when the ban went into effect in CT. NC really doesn't know what a cold winter is.



I think there are a lot of non-smokers who would appreciate a non-smoking sports bar.
but the location might hurt some... being so close to state and drawing so many college students.

Sammys food does suck and it's be nice to have a new place in that plaza.

4/23/2007 11:29:56 AM

'Bout time. That big ass NEW building setting there empty looks stupid.

4/23/2007 11:31:51 AM

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"well it was in Feb. when the ban went into effect in CT. NC really doesn't know what a cold winter is. "

that was my point....so many people around here complain and try to avoid going outside when it gets below 50.

4/23/2007 11:40:17 AM

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"it'll be interesting to see how economically strong the "I want to watch sports in a smoke free environment" crowd around here is. "

I can imagine it doing VERY well. I will likely be going there semi-regularly. The lack of any such place prevents me from going out much & I know alot of other people who want a smoke-free environment too.

4/23/2007 11:46:09 AM

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"Anyway, one of the guys opening it is a TWWer. . .I'm sure that he'll read this thread."

I recall a TWW thread a few months ago about a sports bar being smoke free and asking for people's opinion on that, what we'd like to see, etc.

and the wings say they are "ginormous"...probably doesn't mean your standard itty bitty wings and drumettes, but an actual WING and drumstick. fot that price ain't too shabby.

[Edited on April 23, 2007 at 11:55 AM. Reason : ]

4/23/2007 11:50:20 AM

if you are reading, put a cider on draft. strongbow is yummy.

4/23/2007 11:55:55 AM

Quote :

"I can imagine it doing VERY well. I will likely be going there semi-regularly. The lack of any such place prevents me from going out much & I know alot of other people who want a smoke-free environment too"

there isn't a total lack of smoke free sports bars.....I'm pretty sure there are a few in Cary....It's not surprising that Cary can support them, I just have my doubts about the success of one at that particular location, but it could very well be successful.

4/23/2007 12:09:09 PM

i know its cool to be a beer snob

but if you can't find something on that beer list that you people consider a tasty beverage then you got problems.

you can complain that their draft beer selection is shitty (because it is), but including bottles they have a decent beer selection.

4/23/2007 12:14:56 PM

as long as they have magic hat #9 and a decent nutbrown/porter - i'll be a regular.

4/23/2007 2:04:01 PM

not being a snob, not asking for anything fancy...I don't go to sports bars to get my "beer snob" on, so I'm not expecting anything ridiculous or an extensive list

just something local and decent, like some CBC pale or seasonal, or a big boss, or a duck-rabbit

I don't think I have problems, I just don't want to buy a single thing on that list...especially for the course of an entire game. I enjoy the hell out of some Bass or Red Stripe given the right situation, but this is not it.

[Edited on April 23, 2007 at 2:23 PM. Reason : ;]

4/23/2007 2:16:09 PM

mmm duck rabbit

4/23/2007 2:25:07 PM