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this is what I have on my wishlist http://www.amazon.com/Camelbak-Aurora-70-Hydration-Pack/dp/B004380KGY

my fellow runner lady friends love it for long distances in the hot summer months, they all say it distributes weight better and takes it off the female hips in comparison to wearing a belt

5/2/2013 9:49:35 AM

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"I use this: http://www.amphipod.com/products/hydration/bottles-handhelds/handhelds/handheld-thermal-lite-20oz"


I would worry about imbalance using something like an amphipod. Is that small amount of weight noticeable enough to cause issues?

5/2/2013 10:25:54 AM

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Either no I don't know enough about running to know the difference. I have a heavy ass phone strapped to my right arm and I carry that in my left hand.

5/2/2013 10:54:54 AM

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Yeah she is doing marathon training so she needs something. I got her a belt and it does not hold enough water.

5/2/2013 11:45:10 AM

LunaK
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okay the wine and dine is 80% full.. who wants to run it with me???

http://www.rundisney.com/wine-and-dine-half-marathon/

5/2/2013 12:18:09 PM

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Considering but Vegas half is that month

My friend wants to do both.. just you know, spend a spool of money to go to / stay at Disney for a couple days, then hit up Vegas for a week and do that run.

Pick your running friends carefully!

Also screw Disney for being able to charge like $200 more to tack a 5k/10k on their Goofy challenge and get away with it

5/2/2013 12:46:56 PM

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Yea... They get away with a lot.

The marathon weekend in January - the full and the half are the same price

5/2/2013 12:58:49 PM

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When I have done marathon training, I either plan my long runs around parks that have water fountains or I plan drinking stations (my house, friends, etc.) and I will drop off a bottle. At most I have carried a couple gels in my pocket for nutrition.

By the time you add the weight of the pack, you are talking about carrying 10lbs on your back if you fill up a 70oz camelbak. To each his own, I suppose, but that sounds ridiculously uncomfortable to me.

5/2/2013 1:34:41 PM

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On the plus side you will be a lot lighter on the race

For marathon training I did all my long runs on Tobacco road. Looped back to my car every 6-10 miles and had refills and gels available. Second time Crabtree Creek, there's a few fountains but I didn't carry enough gels. I can see hating the belts, I spend a lot of time stuffing crap in.

I really need a smaller more usable music player. What do you all use? And have any of you tried wireless headphones / earpieces?

5/3/2013 2:49:56 PM

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C25k week 1 complete. Was tougher than I thought to get the three days in with crappy weather and lots of post work activities. Hope next week is easier now that I'm committed.

5/3/2013 10:12:52 PM

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Very nice.

Took me about 3 weeks to get used to get back into running when I was out of it, or add an extra run per week.

Don't miss a run for I think 8-10 weeks, and you will have the foundation for a habit. Missing one will set you back. If it sucks outside throw down a few bucks and get on a treadmill.. if you're really tired/worn commit time for most of the workout and walk/run it. It'll come

5/4/2013 11:49:54 AM

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"I really need a smaller more usable music player. What do you all use? And have any of you tried wireless headphones / earpieces?"


I use this Bluetooth headset (http://www.amazon.com/Kinivo-BTH220-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headphone/dp/B005LKB0IU) with my Android phone. I prefer using my phone instead of a music player because I can hear RunKeeper's pacing stats. The headset also has controls for volume/change songs which is pretty nice since you dont have to fiddle with your phone in an armband.

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"C25k week 1 complete. Was tougher than I thought to get the three days in with crappy weather and lots of post work activities. Hope next week is easier now that I'm committed."

I started with C25k in March and am now consistenly running sub 30-min 5k's. Right now I've been focusing on increasing my distance and pace but getting to the point where I could jog a 5k without stopping was my biggest accomplishment. I started out on a treadmill for the first few weeks but then started running outside found that I did much better. The other thing that really helped me was "consciously" focusing on my breathing, that is, I started timing my breaths with my steps instead of just breathing randomly. Just seems like I run much better that way.

[Edited on May 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ]

5/4/2013 3:42:46 PM

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^ Bought that very headset earlier today before reading this

I ended up getting an ipod nano 7. Bluetooth and super small, and I prefer player in the belt. We'll see how it goes.

I breathe in every 2 steps and out every 2 after the first mile. Getting belly breathing down is a big plus.. now I'm trying to exhale faster to suck more air in on my track days without looking like a slobbering dog

5/4/2013 4:26:48 PM

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Forgive me if the question has been asked but why does it cost money to run?

5/4/2013 6:13:05 PM

LunaK
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To put on races it costs money. Closing off streets, police officers if needed etc. so the bigger the race, the more expensive it is to put on

5/4/2013 11:16:13 PM

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Haven't run in a week. Thanks to the weather and my lazy ass.

Did do an hour of Dance Central 2 with my wife tonight though, sweated my ass off to make up for it a bit.

5/7/2013 11:40:34 PM

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^ Treadmill

In about 2 months it will be 90 degrees and 400% humidity every day and it will suck. Even at midnight its in the 80s. Rainy 70 degree days are a blessing compared to that

The plus is you can get used to it after about 3 weeks. For the same effort though expect to run around a minute slower on the nastiest days.

The minus is 70 degrees starts to feel cold :/

5/8/2013 12:03:06 AM

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Ran nearly 2 miles once last week after resting for several weeks after the CRBR (had a bad shin splint in my left leg). Kinda felt a little sore afterwards, but I knew when I needed to stop as to not overdo it. Yesterday I did some jump rope while at the gym and for the first time that leg didn't get irritated during the exercise & afterwards. Will try and give it another go this afternoon, at least 2-3 miles as long as the leg allows.

5/8/2013 10:05:51 AM

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5/8/2013 12:55:05 PM

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Still the ankle?

5/8/2013 2:55:18 PM

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actually it's back to 100%! Now I'm getting my training for my half back on track. I deferred last sunday's race and my ankle felt great, and I got sad that I deferred but I know really, if I hadn't taken time off of it, it wouldn't be better anyways.

Now I'm hoping to do well on June 9th.

5/8/2013 4:13:57 PM

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Got out there today.

Holy shit, 80 degrees and humidity felt like hell. I better keep it and get used to this.

5/9/2013 2:21:21 PM

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Just try to gauge relative effort and run a little slower. It puts the same strain on your body, dont' sweat it /rimshot

^^ What race? Best of luck -- considering the Midtown 10k or half June 3rd. Need a month or two to build up to a PR pace, but this week stunk. I had aches and a cough but no flu all week, and pain in my throat so awful it shut down ability to think all Wednesday.. much less run.

5/9/2013 11:33:15 PM

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5/12/2013 8:18:37 PM

MinkaGrl01

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the ODDyssey half http://www.oddysseyhalfmarathon.com/


The rest of my year looks like this:
June 9: ODDyssey Half Marathon, Philly
June 23: Stratton Faxon Fairfield Half Marathon, Fairfield, Connecticut
August 31: ATL 20K, Atlanta, GA
Sept 15: Rock ‘n’ Roll Philadelphia Half Marathon
November 17: Philadelphia Half Marathon

What races is everyone else doing?

5/13/2013 10:50:03 AM

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Busy schedule!

Philly twice a month apart? Do you have family up there?


Mine is just
June 2: Midtown half or 10k
Nov 17th: Rock and Roll Half

Want to squeeze a tri in and another half. Being sick last week really screwed with my training plan.. still coughing and I think getting over sickness will make me weak another week. :/

5/13/2013 10:57:37 AM

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I live up here

I didn't mean for it to get so busy. I actually told myself I was going to limit my races this year. So I'm definitely capping it now. NO MORE RACES FOR THIS YEAR

[Edited on May 13, 2013 at 11:10 AM. Reason : ]

5/13/2013 11:08:41 AM

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Ah that would make a lot more sense

Un/Fortunately the Tar Heel 10 miler made me a little snakebit, (left an hour early - traffic jam until after the start - then parking attendents tell us all parking lots are full, but thanks for your $80 entry and no race) so I'm limiting last minute entries.

5/13/2013 11:18:34 AM

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Week 7 day 1 done! Farthest run yet. Much cooler than last week.

5/14/2013 1:32:47 PM

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Nice - almost there, just a few more weeks to take it home

5/14/2013 1:44:16 PM

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Has anyone been on stimulants with their workouts? I started taking 10mg of Adderall and noticed my HR hovering up to the 160s pretty quick. Intense runs I hit low 180s. My normals are 150s for fast runs and 170s for really hard intervals.

Did 9 this weekend @ 8:20 in the humid sticky rain . First run in a month I really felt like I maxed out and pushed a little further then safe.. I think that and the HR stuff.. I'm going to make all my miles 15 seconds slower this week.

5/20/2013 1:07:14 PM

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just a little caffeine here and there, not too much though

Last week was my two year runniversary! hard to believe I was starting couch to 5K two years ago and eventually worked my way to struggling to hit atleast 2 miles. Now I won't even laced up if I don't have enough time for 3 miles no purpose in getting sweaty if I can't atleast do 3 miles

5/20/2013 2:44:34 PM

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^ Can do some sprints or fartleks and stuff! You will get sweaty!

One of my friends chugs a five-hour right before a race. I'm pretty sure that would mess me up :/

5/21/2013 10:36:08 AM

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I actually just recently stopped consuming caffeine because I would very occasionally get similar symptoms to exercise induced asthma (constricted breathing, can't get my heart rate down, etc.). I haven't ever been diagnosed and never had any issues when I was younger, but I spoke to a doctor friend of mine and he suggested it might be the caffeine. My guess is it's dust irritation or something like that because it primarily happens on dry days or when I am inside a gym.

5/21/2013 11:20:22 AM

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Damn I've been falling back into my old eating/workout habits, as in eating whatever I want and not working out or running. Haven't run since my last Tuesday or worked out in weeks and it showed when I went out there today. 2 miles and I'm done.

Didn't feel out of breath and I made sure to drink tons of water before and during, but I just couldn't will my legs to go any further. After I walked for a long time I made myself run the last bit to my car but when I finished I felt like I might pass out and I was sweating more than I've ever. I'm not sure if it was the heat, too much pace, or what but it didn't feel good.

I'm not going to let this stop me though. I'm going to get out there Saturday morning and repeat this day and get back into it. Damn it!

[Edited on May 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .]

5/23/2013 12:57:26 PM

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if anyone wants to get a pair of vibram KSO fivefingers on the cheap, the men's kangaroo-leather style (available in brown and black) is $33 after tax with free shipping from REI: http://www.rei.com/product/843161/vibram-fivefingers-kso-trek-multisport-shoes-mens-2012-overstock

women's non-leather KSOs are around $32 after tax and free shipping: http://www.rei.com/product/835034/vibram-fivefingers-kso-multisport-shoes-womens-2011-overstock

5/23/2013 1:55:50 PM

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yay for plantar fasciitis

5/27/2013 8:07:18 PM

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Boo

Been dealing with that..almost a year now. Ugh, it comes and goes.

It's a lot more prevalent this week. Did not stretch much after my awful awful hangover run.

5/28/2013 10:40:15 AM

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I need advice. Please keep in mind I've only been running for a little over two years now and have done two half marathons before.

I have my third half on June 9th and training has been crazy. I was doing really well through February and March culminating with a 10 mile run before my injury, then had to take most of the month of April off because of my ankle. Through the past few weeks I've been trying to build up my distance again every week with 6 miles, then 8 miles, and last Saturday with 10 miles. Do you think I should do 12 miles this Saturday with the half on June 9th or do a shorter distance and hope for the best?

5/29/2013 1:55:55 PM

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I would taper. Do maybe 6-8.

For my first two half marathons my longest run was 10.

The training plans I've experienced, 2 buildup long runs and a shorter or easier run on the 3rd week seems to be good for preventing overtraining. Going from 6->8->10->12->13 after taking April off seems risky. Just do a ton of small runs and you should have the energy to complete your half.

Good job getting back

[Edited on May 29, 2013 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

5/29/2013 2:20:07 PM

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Any pro tips on hills? Heat + Hills are destroying me.

I read on downhills to lean forward and try to use your hamstrings more to encourage a shorter leg lever, but this felt like it took more energy then having my legs out in front of me braking.

6/3/2013 10:58:12 AM

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here's an article I read awhile ago about tackling hills http://womensrunning.competitor.com/2012/03/training-tips/hill-running_1329

the best advice I've gotten is adding in hill repeats every week or every other week


So I ended up doing 7 miles last weekend. The sun was blazing on me but it was my fault, I had the choice of going out at 7am or sleeping in and running at 9:30-10 am.... I wont be making that mistake again this summer.



[Edited on June 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM. Reason : ]

6/3/2013 11:19:53 AM

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I wish I were a morning person. Even if I go to bed early I think differently in sleephaze mode.

I can either sleep at 2 and wake up at 9 fine, or sleep at 1 and still wake up at 9. Bleh.

Eventually I have to learn how to wake up at 7 like all the other old people so I can do my morning run / swim / bike and not skip out on evening fun.

I'm having almost as much trouble running down hills. I've been told to lean forward like that but try to do butt kicks to shorten my stride. It took more energy to do that then my braking run :/

[Edited on June 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM. Reason : .]

6/3/2013 11:28:19 AM

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ooooo I read a great article on compound lifts to help with running downhill.... give me a moment to find it

aha here it is! http://running.competitor.com/2013/04/training/olympic-lifting-for-better-running_69672

[Edited on June 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM. Reason : ]

6/3/2013 11:33:05 AM

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Cool article. Thanks!

6/3/2013 12:47:59 PM

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Well I got through my half marathon yesterday. It was a very challenging course, lots of steep climbs and my left IT band was not liking it much but I kept my average pace at just a second slower than my last half which was much flatter.

It would have been interesting to have seen what I could have done if I hadn't hurt my ankle in the middle of training but it is what it is. The last mile had a horrible mountain to climb, my knee had started locking up and I really just wanted to quit but this lady helped me and we crossed together. I really left all I had on that course. Afterwards I walked for a bit, did some stretching, and had a 15 minute tandem sports massage so that was nice. I'm feeling a bit of weirdness in my left ITB so I'm going to catch a yoga class after work.

Overall, It was a beautiful run. Philadelphia's fairmount park is gorgeous, we ran past a few waterfalls, along the river, past some old historical sites, without once having it feel like we were in a city at all. It was sublime.

Next up is the Fairfield, Conn Half.... in two weeks.... I hate myself right now

6/10/2013 11:45:45 AM

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WARNING: WORDS!!!

was wondering if anyone has any suggestions about my injury that has been bothering me for NINE MONTHS!

Background: I lost 140 lbs over 1.5 years. I was pretty lazy and not active before 2012. Started very intense training (2-3 times a day) in June 2012.

Injury: Happened sometime in September 2012. No real incident where I felt the pain begin. At the time I was training for the Tough Mudder and doing lots of long distance runs (6-8 miles) as well as hill sprints and kickboxing. It started as a hamstring injury and has since “spread” around my leg. I currently feel pain in the hamstring, piriformis, glute, adductor and front of hip on my left leg.
Treatment:
• Sept 2012 – Saw SAS PT and began stretching/yoga
• Oct 2012 – Saw Orthopedic Surgeon to get cortisone shot in hamstring. Received 2 different deep tissue massages. Saw Cary PT to get stretching and strengthening techniques. Ran Tough Mudder on Halloween
• Nov/Dec 2012 – Did NOTHING with lower body. Took a long break
• Jan 2013 – Started back and immediately felt pain in hamstring again.
• Feb 2013 – Began ultrasound with SAS PT 3 times a week for 2 months. Saw Ortho for another shot. This time it was laser guided cortisone shot into the origin of hamstring.
• March 2013 – Continued PT at SAS. Walking on treadmill and yoga classes. Some improvement but not much.
• April 2013 – Hamstring pain increased and even more pain in the piriformis/adductor. Really bad pain when I sit (still happens today). Received cortisone shot from Ortho in the piriformis. Began stretches on piriformis. Received 2 more deep tissue massages. Purchased a theracane to massage my piriformis.
• May 2013 – More massages on piriformis. Pain in the entire hip began. I purchased an electroshock therapy device to work on the sciatic nerve.
• June 2013 – Met with chiropractor. She says my right hip is a little lower than my left and the imbalance is causing all problems in my left hip. Scheduled for 3 appt. a week for a month. This includes a massage and “adjustment”. I’ve gone to two sessions and I feel some relief immediately after but pain comes back soon thereafter. I'm not convinced with the chiro....

I have become very flexible since I’ve been told to stretch since the start. My hamstrings feel a lot more flexible than this time last year. One masseuse said that my adductor longus on my left leg is VERY tight and there’s significant pain when trying to raise my leg from deep butterfly position. The hamstring and piriformis pain are more prominent when sitting in my car or at my desk.


ANY suggestions? I'm desperate at this point....

6/10/2013 12:33:04 PM

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Last summer I'd go out at 7:00am but I found it didn't help as much as I would have liked. Go out in the early morning and the temperature is very close to the dew point, on average you're looking at 85% humidity minimum. Wait for it to warm up and the humidity goes down but of course it's much hotter. No win situation.

If this summer is as bad as last summer I may just take the whole thing off or find some other exercise.

6/10/2013 12:45:38 PM

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^
If you really hate the heat, treadmills are tolerable if you make them goal oriented. I rambled on it a couple times, but basically you want to run normally for a few minutes, then do something interesting, like hills or little strides or form work for a few minutes, and it keeps your mind busy.

Otherwise, I ran outside in the death heat after work for run clubs, and got used to it after about a month. You have to run slower and sweat a long ass time though.

^^
Never had a hamstring injury, but if a PT isn't helping, definitely get an hour with a running coach and see if anything in your form is aggravating it.

All my injuries (I've had so many) have been from
* Bad Form
* Too much too soon (changed running form too rapidly doing the same mileage)
* Jumping back into running too soon

But all those also involved bad form. I just got some crazy injuries, most common being plantar or IT bands.

I've never done a cortisone shot but I've had MUCH more success from a sports PT then a regular PT. You may want to try one specialized toward sports.

For piriformis pain, I had someone awhile ago work on me. His suggestion was using a hard rubber bounce ball and sitting on that for 5 minutes. You start with a little pressure and slowly increase it as your body adapts - don't go all out at first. He said something like if you do this or do a stretch start as a light stretch and go deeper - your body fights it for a minute or two but after that you loosen up.


^^^
Congrats on the half! I've never had a training chunk (12+ weeks) where something bad didn't happen to me. I had the same problem with my left IT on my last full.. I got super lucky with some KT tape.. it seemed to help a lot. Good luck with the ITB and next race!

6/10/2013 1:43:58 PM

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^^^ try strength training exercises

see a trainer/coach to help you develope a program

[Edited on June 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM. Reason : e]

6/10/2013 3:53:08 PM

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