did anyone run the Run for the Arts 5K today? some volunteer was texting on her phone and forgot to tell us runners to turn around at the end of the bridge going over 440...I was in 3rd and ended up leading ~100 runners into Meredith before turning around

5/16/2009 11:32:11 AM

i did a 10k a week ago and like to spread races apart with at least 4 weeks between

there is always a 5k somewhere in the area every Saturday, which is GREAT. Next for me is the Race for the Cure. I'm trying to do big races (Cary Road Race, Capital City Classic last week) to get used to big crowds that I'd see at a marathon.

plus I did 5ks all the time in high school like once a week and that suxs

5/16/2009 12:10:30 PM

week 1, 21.86 miles @ 8:10
week 2, 15.29 miles @ 7:34

spring/summer 2009 total: 37.15 miles @ 7:55 pace

5/17/2009 1:30:43 PM

Hey... Has anyone every bruised or fractured the bone on the bottom of their foot that connects to the big toe?

Last week I got done running and later that evening, I noticed that whenever I step on the ball on my foot a certain way, I feel like I am stepping on a rusty nail. It really hurts. I haven't been running hard core because of it. Anyone have any idea what this is? It hasn't felt any better since Tuesday. Should it be something I need to go to the doctor for? (I don't feel like going and I don't wanna stop running)

5/17/2009 4:06:09 PM

better to go to a doctor now and take your medicine, which may be just to take 4-6 weeks off, than to make it worse and end up taking 2-3 months off later

5/17/2009 4:09:57 PM

two winters ago I was going outside for a run and didnt really think about the rain until I busted my ass my first step outside (freezing rain). I hit the sole of my foot hard on some decorative bricks around the walkway. I had the worse bruise for like several weeks, I think I fractured something on the side of my foot but it healed on its own. The whole bottom of my foot was bruised along with the side...of course, I kept on running! I soaked my foot om epsom salt after each run....once I got going running it felt ok...but once I stopped...ugh, I had a very bad limp. It will probably come back when I am 50....The epsom salt appeared to work....

Now I have a issue with one of the toes, it feels sprained or something but I havent hit it on anything. I did run more than normal the past two days (had to make up for a rain day), maybe that is it. Monday is my rest day so I hope it is better Tuesday.



[Edited on May 18, 2009 at 1:23 AM. Reason : w]

5/18/2009 1:18:34 AM

now that i've started swimming twice a week i've noticed that sometimes my feet with cramp up somthing PAINFUL. i'll be swimming my laps like normal then suddenly one of my feet, in the metatarsils area will just be almost paralyzed. the first time it happened it lifted my foot out of the water and my toes were all splayed out funny. i couldn't swim at all the pain was so bad. i had to get on the steps and put my weight on it to work it out and it finally stopped hurting but has happened since on the other foot. has this happened to anyone else? i eat plenty of potassium...

5/18/2009 12:01:28 PM

be sure you're hydrated.
Happens to me from time to time. just a muscle cramp. no big deal

5/18/2009 12:12:19 PM

Are there any good races this weekend or so? In Raleigh area.

5/18/2009 12:13:17 PM

^^^ happens to me in the pool as well. Haven't figured out what it is and it doesn't happen often enough for me to get it checked out or anything. Uncomfortable as hell when it does happen, though.

5/18/2009 12:17:09 PM

i think it happens in the pool because you are pointing your toes a lot. That action flexes the muscles on the bottom of your feet. Do that too much, and they'll cramp.

Stretch your feet (stand on a curb or to calf stretches), and stay hydrated is probably about all you can do

5/18/2009 12:24:26 PM

word. like ^^ its not frequent enough to get checked but that shit hurts and messed up my flow in the pool!

5/18/2009 12:34:00 PM

man this morning was perfect for a long run weather wise. So glad I have today off. 11 miles literally no sweat


There is a race SOMEWHERE every weekend in the area. I'll search and find something.............


alright here is a 5k in downtown Raleigh http://www.skirtchaser5k.com/ its been advertised in the Endurance magazine

[Edited on May 18, 2009 at 3:41 PM. Reason : link]

5/18/2009 3:36:26 PM

^^ you need to relax your foot more as you swim. you shouldn't have to put a lot of pressure on your foot to keep it straight. if you do it with a gentle motion you'll be fine.

that is one of many mistakes i made when i first started swimming. knees being too bent was also a mistake, because that caused my knees to pop a lot when not in the pool. pulling my arms straight back while in the water was another mistake.

Arab13 probably has some good swimming advice if you're interested.

regrettably i must admit when he suggested last year that I was using my legs too much.

i think khcadwal swims too, so she may have some good advice.

[Edited on May 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM. Reason : swmmrs]

5/18/2009 3:41:58 PM

mountain biking (easy trails at Umstead) tomorrow. looking forward to not running for a change. Eventually I am getting a roadbike with a goal of duathlon or triathlon in 2010

5/18/2009 6:10:51 PM

^^ thanks for the advice. i'm actually enrolled in a masters swim class at my gym. i do bend my knees a lot and its something i work on constantly but im improving!! i only have 3 more lessons before its over so i'll likely train on my own for another month or two then reenroll to refine my technique some more.

ran 4 miles last night. it was a b-r-e-e-z-e which is the first time 4 miles has been easy in my life! i busted it out and when it was over i was like, oh i'm a little tired but dang that was easier than last time! my heart rate was just below 170 the whole time. it also helps that i run indoors on the treadmill (i dont rely on the distance measure on the treadmill) outdoor running will be harder come race-time but its too hot to run outside so i gotta keep it indoors, especially for distance work.

5/19/2009 12:30:00 PM

If 67 degrees is too hot for you you're going to be hurting this summer.

5/19/2009 12:53:00 PM

im in houston where its mid 90s..... now... 100s+ is coming!!

5/19/2009 1:01:31 PM

oh I see.

5/19/2009 1:08:18 PM

^^^^ i can't wait until 3 miles gets easy for me. ugh. then maybe i can bump up to 4 i joined the raleigh women's downtown running group and they have lots and lots of meetups during the week (even "beginner" meet ups) so i think i'm going to try to make it to some of those. my knees just KILL from running though. i think i am running wrong or something because i have been a little sore in my quads and stuff just from starting to run more frequently (but not like super sore, just like a little soreness the next day). but my knees like don't recover. they hurt a lot. both in the same spot - on the inside of the leg. i don't know, i guess someone needs to teach me to run correctly.

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"i do bend my knees a lot and its something i work on constantly but im improving!!"

yea the kicking motion should kind of come from your hips not from bending your knees if that makes sense--the the whole leg is doing the kicking. hard to explain, but i'm sure you are working on it in your class and the foot thing is annoying. i even still get foot cramps. IRSeriousCat gave some good advice. you don't need to like, point your toes when you swim, just let the feet be loose! also, and you exercise a lot so i'm sure you don't need to hear this, but remember to keep hydrated when swimming. you still sweat a lot even in water and some people forget that since you don't notice it as much (because you're already wet!).

[Edited on May 19, 2009 at 2:42 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2009 2:41:18 PM

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"its a 5K that is run around downtown raleigh at 6pm every other monday. you go 5 times u get a shirt, ten times and you get a mug. after the run theres dinner and games and contests and stuff. its a pretty good crowd and there are all skill levels. you can run more if you want they had little extensions here and there. i think they add up to a total of 5 miles if you run all the extensions i dono what "K" that is o yea and the point is to drink before and after they have good drink specials but I dont do that"

guess i should put this in here about the Tir Na Nog run, does anyone here do this?

Its a club sponsored by fleet feet, i like it. on wednesdays and fridays i run about 4 miles (i havent ran since April 20th, so when i did the nog run yesterday it kicked my ass until the last 3/4 mile stretch where I got a pretty damn good second wind)

im also doing the race for the cure...but i aint racin

ever since i started running hardcore in january, im amazed at how much it has helped my MMA conditioning. i used to get rubber legged after the first round of sparring or jiu jitsu before running despite not actually being winded...just poor muscular conditioning

nowadays i dont get rubber legs period even when im about dead

[Edited on May 19, 2009 at 2:57 PM. Reason : g]

5/19/2009 2:50:53 PM

^^ im not an expert but your knee issue sounds like it could be shoe realted

i know you were considering some new running shoes, have you gone to a running shoe store to get fitted yet? i wouldn't run anymore until you've done this

it sounds like your patellar (sp?) in your knee, mine acted up right before my last half marathon and i was afraid i wasnt going to be able to race but i let it rest and i was ok. i am working on building stronger knees through strength and stability work 3 times a week.

also for what its worth, i take glucoasmean (totally spelling wrong, haha dont feel like looking it up) supplements which help joint health.

5/19/2009 3:09:16 PM

just run with a knee support


its basically the strap you see around the knees of football players, it supports the patella region really well and prevents hyperextension, its great to run in

i know cuz i have similar knee issues and I use the brace, u can find them at any drug or athletic store

if you arent tryna pump supplements into your body

[Edited on May 19, 2009 at 10:25 PM. Reason : f]

5/19/2009 10:24:48 PM

Quote :

"my knees just KILL from running though. i think i am running wrong or something because i have been a little sore in my quads and stuff just from starting to run more frequently (but not like super sore, just like a little soreness the next day). but my knees like don't recover. they hurt a lot. both in the same spot - on the inside of the leg. i don't know, i guess someone needs to teach me to run correctly."

You may have patello femoral syndrome, which means your knees aren't tracking properly, or chondromalicia patella which is damage to the patellar cartilage. Both are pretty common, especially in females, and can be difficult to treat.

I have had issues with both of these conditions and have done some physical therapy to strengthen my quads, which seemed to help some. My right knee occasionally has a dull ache after running and my left knee pops when squatting, kneeling, jumping, and going up and down stairs. I found a few things that seem to help.....

1) Like ^ said, I wear patellar straps on both knees which helps reduce pain from any tendinitis present. I tried a full brace on my right knee but it was too uncomfortable and restrictive for my liking.

2) I never run on hard surfaces like pavement. In fact, my gym (Lifetime Fitness) has some great Woodway treadmills that have a softer, spongier running surface than your average treadmill.

3) I never run on back-to-back days. I always give my knees a day off.

4) I slowed my pace. I found that running .5 to 1 mph slower makes for less impact on the knees.

5) I also take Naproxen which is a prescription anti-inflammatory.

6) I added inserts to my shoes which provide more arch support since my feet are slightly pronated.


I hope some of those suggestions can help you because I know how frustrating it can be.

5/19/2009 11:23:18 PM

thanks everyone!! i guess when i said the "inside" of my knee i should have been more specific - like the inner knee (the part inside the leg) not necessarily something inside the knee. the medial side i guess? if that makes any sense haha. hard to describe. it could still be patella though i guess, but it is more along the side. hurts to touch and to extend and to bend in like a in a P position. WAY more on my right side than my left so i probably just strained something in both. i think the shoe suggestion will definitely help, inserts as well.

i probably shouldn't run back to back OR on the pavement (this is honestly what i think the problem has to be). plus doing stability and strength exercises would probably be a huge help.

i guess i will alternate days run, swim, run, swim. and i might even need to do run, swim, swim, run. which is kinda sad because i really wanted to run a 1/2 marathon but if my knees feel like shit everytime i run, i can't. hopefully it will be better and my body isn't used to running EVERYDAY.

however, i really think it might be the pavement because i've never experienced this before (with elliptical/treadmill OR even inside track). i joined a running group that runs outside, but maybe if i only do that once in awhile it won't be as bad. honestly my knees just kill. i went through the same thing with shoulders when i swam competitively (i had cortizone shots and took celebrex until all those studies came out).

anyway i'm going to have a physical done soon (because my family has had a lot of health probs recently and i want to make sure everything is ok) so i'm going to ask my doctor about it as well. i've just seem to have had a lot of joint problems - shoulders, hips and now my knees hate me apparently too.

hopefully w/ these suggestions though it will be easily correctable! thanks guys

5/19/2009 11:56:00 PM

what kind of medical problem would cause a fit person to drop dead in the middle of a run?

5/20/2009 12:04:24 AM

heart attack, stroke, any kind of heart condition. not all heart attacks and strokes are a result of poor health.

i don't know. did that happen to someone you know?

5/20/2009 12:05:35 AM

sounds like you need more peanut butter in your diet

5/20/2009 2:41:03 AM

^4

Does your run include a lot of hills, either up or down? I had that same knee issue you're describing and it came from the way i was extending my legs when running down hill. it became exacerbated by the up hill runs when were tightening my IT Band. I would do some IT Band stretches and moderate my down hill extension. However, if you have no hills then i don't know what it is.

^3

This actually happens a lot, especially during marathons. Some people are fit, but don't always eat healthy and therefore have clogged hearts, but its mostly attributed to how much they push their heart in that situation. The heart can only have so much and if it pass its limits it can fail like any other part of the body. Coronaries are not uncommon in races, sadly.

5/20/2009 9:41:55 AM

^ yes!!! it is hilly super super super hilly.

5/20/2009 10:46:23 AM

some people just have weak hearts and theres nothing you can do about it, theres no medical screening for foot races

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM. Reason : f]

5/20/2009 11:45:32 AM

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"Story Highlights A triathlon combines swimming, biking and running in one event. 13 of 14 deaths in USA Triathlon events between 2006 and 2008 happened during the swim portion of the event. Half of the deaths were heart-related. Doctors say the main cause is undetected heart disease. CHAPEL HILL, N.C. - Swimming, biking and running - put them together and you have an athlete's ultimate challenge - the triathlon. For triathlete Gary Kayye, the appeal is variety. "The concept of doing a triathlon is cool because you're doing multiple sports," he said. Kayye's got plenty of options. There are at least 61 triathlons scheduled between April and September across the Tarheel state. But according to an American College of Cardiology study, with the increased popularity of triathlons comes an increased risk of serious injury, even death. The study reported that between 2006 and 2008, 14 people died during sanctioned USA Triathlon events. Thirteen of those deaths happened while participants were swimming. And more than half of those were heart-related. Dr. Cam Patterson, chief of cardiology at UNC Health Care, says the danger of swimming is that it can induce abnormal rhythms of the heart. "If you have certain heart problems, swimming is more likely to bring out abnormal rhythms that can lead to sudden death," he said. "Fortunately, your physician can tell you if your heart condition is something that would make you more susceptible to sudden death." Patterson says while some people might question the need to screen otherwise healthy athletes for heart disease, it might prevent needless deaths. "Most of the cardiovascular problems that could lead to sudden death can be diagnosed with a simple screening test - an electrocardiogram," he said. But what about the other half of swimmers who died? The study also noted that it's hard for swimmers in trouble to rest or signal for help. In 2005, a Henderson man died during the swimming portion of a triathlon at Kerr Lake. Emergency workers were unable to revive him and determined he likely suffered a heart attack or stroke. Certified Triathlon Coach Monette Williams said she encourages folks who are training for a triathlon to work with a partner. Using a buddy, she said, can be motivating and is a safer way to work out. "Practicing with people in the water tends to be the most significant thing you can do because you're surrounded by people the entire swim," she said. Williams also recommends using a trained triathlon coach to help you avoid injury and pace yourself as you train. "Do an interview with them, see if you're compatible," she said. "You want to feel like you're relying on your coach, you trust your coach to put you through these workouts." For Kayye, using a coach has given him better workouts and better finish times. "I did it on my own the first year and then I got a coach," he said. "There was a substantial difference the second and third year.""

5/20/2009 12:12:52 PM

where's the jerkoff smiley when you need it?

If you aren't fit enough to complete the swim at a triathlon, then don't enter the triathlon. I have already heard of several half ironman and ironman distance swims get canceled and the races turned into duathlons because of choppy water on the course and the race directors were afraid of lawsuits. Those things cost hundreds of dollars to enter and thousands of dollars and hours in equipment and training.

5/20/2009 12:56:08 PM

i think the point of the article is that heart conditions dont come to the surface until the competition

clearly anyone participating in a tri is in reasonably good shape and has trained for the event

i doubt anyone jumps into the water for a tri having not prepared for the distance, and even if they did, that factor alone wouldn't CAUSE a heart problem

5/20/2009 1:13:09 PM

It wouldn't cause the heart problem, but certainly it would have revealed itself before the race if they were putting in the work except in rare occurrences.

If I had to guess, I think the increase in serious injuries and death in triathlon probably has more to do with semi-casual and older athletes not putting the proper time and training in before they compete in a sanctioned event.

The distances for sprints and olympic tris are not so intimidating as to keep athletes away and so you have people getting involved that shouldn't be.

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 2:12 PM. Reason : d]

5/20/2009 2:11:11 PM

jochristian i think you are loooking at it the wrong way


conditions like that dont manifest themselves until years and years sometimes, its not like you go out and run a lap and go "o my heart feels weak and inherently at a diminished capacity to last me a lifetime of competition"


like i said you can get checked for that stuff, but often times you dont even know you have a condition til your dead from it, and these races dont require medical screenings, so i think its a little far fetched to call people that collapse or die from heart failures ignorant

a semi or non-trained person isnt going to be able to push to that point of injury to the heart like a trained person can, theyd most likely have stopped long long before heart failure ...its the well trained guys that will push and push...but at the same time a weak heart is a weak heart whether you train or not. it doesnt just happen in competitive events

it really has jack shit to do with your physical conditioning and whatever YOUR perception of being "fit" is

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"If you aren't fit enough to complete the swim at a triathlon, then don't enter the triathlon. I have already heard of several half ironman and ironman distance swims get canceled and the races turned into duathlons because of choppy water on the course and the race directors were afraid of lawsuits. Those things cost hundreds of dollars to enter and thousands of dollars and hours in equipment and training."

you say that as if theres a problem with that, are people training to swim in choppy water especially knowing that most likely at a certain level of rough currents the race will be cancelled anyway? thats a little different than a road course being more hilly than normal. water isnt anything to fuck with and theres a plethora of reasons people wind up drowning its not just because they didnt "train TUFF enough"

get serious

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 4:12 PM. Reason : v]

5/20/2009 4:07:07 PM

WHY RUN SO FUCKING MUCH?

This seems like total over kill from a health perspective. Only moderate levels of exercise are required to ward off diabetes, heart disease, etc. So whats the marginal benefit of all the extra exertion?

5/20/2009 4:10:49 PM

lol same reason people play football baseball or basketball

its a competitive endeavor and some people like to challenge themselves. plus at some point it becomes an overall lifestyle changee whether you do it to compete or just for leisure

5/20/2009 4:14:03 PM

"people enjoy running"? believe it or not, that's an answer i never considered. i suppose you would have to enjoy running to some degree to do it so much.

i assumed it was vanity. more running = better glats and bipex.

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 4:30 PM. Reason : ``]

5/20/2009 4:20:47 PM

I enjoy it only some times, but i always enjoy the feeling i get afterward.

same thing with swimming.

bicycling is the opposite. i always enjoy a ride but rarely enjoy how i feel afterward.

5/20/2009 4:27:04 PM

@jocristian - as other's have said, you're really oversimplifying the issue of sudden deaths in often top-form athletes. Your conjecture that "most deaths" in a triathlon are from people who simply haven't "put in enough training" is just off base. Sure there are people who aren't prepared, and they usually drop out, or just finish really far back. It is very hard, though, to literally run yourself to death, unless there is something wrong internally or you have another significant health problem. A healthy person, who just is not in top-physical condition or who is undertrained, cannot exert themselves to death during a race. They will instead hit a wall or just drop out, but they will not die, unless there is another mitigating factor.

for example, there was a high profile death in the 2007 NYC Marathon, which served as the Oly Trials. Ryan Shay, a 27 year-old, multi-time US Track National Champion, keeled over and died on the spot 5 miles into the race. He was on of the fittest runners in the world, but he had a massive heart attack, which they found out later was from an enlarged heart condition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Shay#Death



and Socks - yeah, believe it or not, running is actually an enjoyable sport/activity for a lot of people. It certainly used to be for me. During HS and college, doing my run was the highlight of my day. I actually enjoyed the act of running, it made me feel better during and afterwards, it was a great social time because I would run with my best friends and teammates, etc. Just like when guys get together to go play basketball. Personally, I hate playing basketball, but I can see how some people enjoy it. Same with running.

It's usually not at all about vanity or looking better (well, except for anorexic people, usually women - in that case, running is about getting skinnier). Unless, of course, your goal is to lose some weight or trim up some, which running can do. But as far as building muscle or getting toned? Nah - running is a really inefficient way to do that. If you're a serious long distance runner, you will end up being bone-thin with spindly chicken legs - not good for vanity

5/20/2009 11:11:34 PM

Quote :

"you say that as if theres a problem with that, are people training to swim in choppy water especially knowing that most likely at a certain level of rough currents the race will be cancelled anyway? thats a little different than a road course being more hilly than normal. water isnt anything to fuck with and theres a plethora of reasons people wind up drowning its not just because they didnt "train TUFF enough""

Hell yeah, there is a problem. People train for thousands of hours to prepare for ironmans and then pay thousands of dollars to travel and register for the event. We are talking about the swim, which is the first and by far shortest event of the triathlon. To call it off because you are catering to the lowest common denominator is bullshit.

It's the too TUFF attitude that is getting people in trouble because you have people overdoing it for what should be one of the easier events of the triathlon if you train properly. Half of the deaths mentioned in the article were not related to heart issues and it would be interesting to see how many of those that were heart issues manifested themselves specifically because of the drowning.

^My main problem with the article was that it was trying to tie the actual event of triathlon to those deaths. The renewed popularity of triathlon is bringing in casual athletes who are treating it like a local 5k at the Y. And yes there are plenty of people who don't train properly for the events. I have seen people swim out 100m, at the beginning of a 1.2 mile swim, decide it's too far and turn back around. Those people have not properly trained for the event.

Not trying to be billy badass here, and I certainly don't want people to die doing sport

5/21/2009 7:08:50 AM

Quote :

"Hell yeah, there is a problem. People train for thousands of hours to prepare for ironmans and then pay thousands of dollars to travel and register for the event."

When you're dealing with mother nature, there is always a chance your plans can be ruined.

Quote :

"Half of the deaths mentioned in the article were not related to heart issues and it would be interesting to see how many of those that were heart issues manifested themselves specifically because of the drowning."

You can see the study the report is quoting from yourself and decide
http://m.acep.org/MobileArticle.aspx?parentfeedid=1&feed_id=imn042120091256501677&parentid=742
Since I bet you're lazy, I'll quote it for you

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"Autopsy reports were available for six water deaths. Three found evidence of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and one showed the presence of dilated cardiomyopathy. "

So, 66% of the ones they have autopsies for are heart issues. The sample size is probably too low to be statistically helpful, but we could extend this number to the ones we don't have autopsies for, then it would be great to compare that number to any other recreation related death. From water skiing, jet skiing, to cycling, to walking if it's really something you want to get worked up about.

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"I have seen people swim out 100m, at the beginning of a 1.2 mile swim, decide it's too far and turn back around. Those people have not properly trained for the event."

They can probably swim 1.2 in their pool easily, but didn't realize how many butterflies they'd have trying to do it surrounded by 100s of others, in the dark of the morning, in a murky lake. Hell, my first sprint tri I had to roll on my back for about 30 seconds at 150-200m or so because I was so amped up...and I had previously done an open water swim in training. You can claim they aren't trained or prepared for it, but the only way I can imagine I could have been any more prepared for that swim is to do many more open water swims and be trained on a distance 5x 750m (as it were, I could do 1500m no problem).

What exactly were we arguing again?

5/21/2009 8:23:59 AM

Not sure what the argumentconversation is about anymore

I still contend that the rise in popularity has lead to more woefully underprepared athletes entering events, but it may have nothing to do with the deaths in the sport.

[Edited on May 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM. Reason : d]

5/21/2009 9:05:09 AM

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"I still contend that the rise in popularity has lead to more woefully underprepared athletes entering events"

You might be right, but I don't think this is any more different than someone hopping on a crotch rocket or a jet ski or operating a turkey fryer without having a clue about it. Which is why I am wondering why we are even discussing this.

5/21/2009 9:21:28 AM

It's only different in that there was an article posted here about the rise in popularity of triathlon contributing to more heart related deaths and not anything about jet skis or turkey fryers.

5/21/2009 9:30:26 AM

alright i weigh 130, last week 135, i was at 140 for the longest time b/w March and late April, and before running 145 in Feb

5/24/2009 5:37:52 AM

saw about 12 or so people on road bikes today as I ran the Maynard loop in Cary. Sooooooo want a road bike, but I have told myself to put in at least 4 months of run training first. Plus I got to save $$ too.

Maynard loop is a great loop too. Park at any of the various places and just go (or live where I do )

Little steamy today but not too bad. I have taken a few days off. I need to figure out how to logistically run to work. Its only 2.6 miles away (I ran by there on my loop) but no showers are there.

5/25/2009 11:59:20 AM

Do all of you do leg lifts along with your running? I am currently training for a couple triathlons over the summer and I run three times a week and spin/bike three times. I lift once a week but usually just upper body, never been a fan of squats and lunges.

Do you recommend doing leg exercises? If so, which ones will be the best all-around while taking it easy on my knees?

[Edited on May 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM. Reason : .]

5/26/2009 3:18:07 PM

I would concentrate on just the running, swimming, biking. Most triathlon training plans I have seen don't include lifting except during the off-season. Plus, it would be difficult to fit in extra time lifting

Of course, that is all if your goal is to be better prepared for running/triathlon. If you want to train for running and get some beach muscles, then lifting won't hurt I don't think.

5/26/2009 3:49:35 PM