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Damn! Guatemala scored late and they finished in a 2-2 draw with T&T. Oh well, if looks like we are still sitting good enough on goal differential. Guatemala is at +1 and we are at +13. We can probably get through even with a 1-0 loss, or 2-0 loss.

9/2/2016 8:59:13 PM

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Pulisic looks good. Really good. Skilled and always around the ball, but level-headed.

Also, Sacha Kljestan looked more impressive in 20 minutes than any of the midfielders (not named Pulisic). I don't follow soccer that closely, but why isn't he playing over guys like Beckerman, Zusi, etc? My soccer friends pretty much universally love the guy. Looks to be an elite passer, creator, etc

9/2/2016 9:09:31 PM

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Beckerman is a defensive midfielder and Zusi is a winger (a shit one). Totally different positions than Kljestan.

Kljestan doesn't play much because he isn't as good defensively as Jones and Bradley and for whatever reason, JK rarely plays a true AM. It's either 2 box to box mids like JJ and MB or one of them plus a def mid like Beckerman or Cameron. And if we're playing Dempsey, he usually occupies that position where a Kljestan typically would be. I also think Kljestan usually looks poor for the US but he has been playing well in MLS lately.

9/3/2016 12:32:18 AM

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the kid is good

9/6/2016 9:39:21 PM

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"We can probably get through even with a 1-0 loss, or 2-0 loss."

Probably? Guatamala needed to make up 13 goals and win. We could have lose 10-0 and been alright even if they won 2-0. it was virtually already over

[Edited on September 6, 2016 at 9:56 PM. Reason : k]

9/6/2016 9:56:05 PM

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These kits don't suck

9/6/2016 10:03:07 PM

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Man I love watching pulisic's low crosses, he just sneaks them in

9/6/2016 11:26:24 PM

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9/7/2016 8:47:32 AM

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Pulisic is the truth.

Kljestan played well. Mostly because Klinsi played him as a true AM so he's proving he's more flexible than people (including me) give him credit for. Still think long-term that's a position suited for Nagbe but he's not getting JK love for whatever reason.

Morris is a helluva second half sub to bring on. This is easily the deepest we've been at forward and attacking positions in a long time: Jozy, Dempsey, Wood, and Morris are all legit threats. You could probably add Pulisic in there too. Love the way he picks his head up and goes at defenders.

[Edited on September 7, 2016 at 2:01 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2016 1:58:03 PM

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"This is easily the deepest we've been at forward and attacking positions in a long time"


TROOF.

9/7/2016 2:02:06 PM

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"The conditions are a bit primitive...it is also worth noting that there is no running water and the players had to change at their hotel which is also where they will shower after the game"

10/7/2016 4:11:35 PM

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The field is terrible

10/7/2016 4:24:00 PM

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Came here to comment on the shittiness of the pitch.

10/7/2016 4:35:21 PM

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Mexico tomorrow night, if trump let's em in

11/10/2016 4:32:40 PM

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talk about an intimidating environment

11/10/2016 6:34:15 PM

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another 2-0 please.

11/11/2016 9:18:31 AM

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^^ so intimidating that they couldnt even sell all the tickets and had to give more to AO.

[Edited on November 11, 2016 at 10:37 AM. Reason : That's google for enviro tho]

11/11/2016 10:37:10 AM

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3-5-2 from JK

goddamn I hope Pulisic pulls his wang out

[Edited on November 11, 2016 at 7:13 PM. Reason : .]

11/11/2016 7:12:51 PM

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What the fuck was that?

We look like asshole and deserve to be behind.

11/11/2016 8:24:00 PM

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hes getting fired in 5 days

[Edited on November 11, 2016 at 8:38 PM. Reason : looks like the coaches on all of my favorite teams will be fired soon]

11/11/2016 8:37:10 PM

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Jones, Bradley is not getting it done. Sadly, we have nobody else.

Did Jozy even touch the ball in the half?

11/11/2016 8:54:38 PM

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Much better this half but God damn Bradley is having a shitter..

11/11/2016 9:23:16 PM

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fuck this week and fuck 2016

11/11/2016 10:01:54 PM

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"3-5-2 from JK

goddamn I hope Pulisic pulls his wang out"


And that stupid formation cost us a win. We looked way better in a 4-4-2 and scored while playing in that formation. This one is on the coaches. Hopefully they don't over think things for the next game.

11/11/2016 10:27:40 PM

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costa rica game is for his job

11/11/2016 10:35:18 PM

Big4Country
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^I don't know about that, but it is important to at least get a draw.

11/11/2016 10:36:43 PM

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^^^ did it?

I know that's the talking point post game but I thought Omar/Brooks had decent games and Besler had a few bad fouls but he wasn't awful.

The problem was Jones/Bradley giving Mexico too much space and that would've happened in a 4-4-2 imo. The bottom line is our midfield just isn't good enough defensively.

11/11/2016 11:38:58 PM

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^Yeah, but they kept attacking down the left and no one was really there to stop them at first. Then when they went with 4 across the back everyone seemed to calm down and play better. No one seemed quite sure what to do when playing in a 3-5-2.

11/12/2016 10:01:00 AM

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it wasn't the ideal formation to start with, I agree. Not making excuses for JK but Osorio has been playing with 3 at the back for Mexico for a while and I think the plan was to negate the wing play of Vela/Gio and instead Mexico went right down the middle where Jones and Bradley left gaps. I'll probably re-watch but I didn't feel like they were going down the left - it was 5-10 yards of space whenever they got the ball in the middle of the field and had time to pick out a pass.

The issue has been and always will be Jones/Bradley are not a good pairing. I personally think it's because MB is mediocre both ways. Give him the offensive reigns and he spends most of the game passing sideways and backwards. Give him the defensive responsibility and he looks tentative and weak in challenges and lost in spacing issues. I'll admit I'm a JJ fanboy and he definitely makes mistakes but he runs his ass off and gets into challenges 10x that of MB or any other CM we have on our roster right now.

Fabian Johnson had one of his worst games in the US shirt aside from his effort on clearing out that dangerous cross in the 2nd half because he isn't used to that position. That's definitely 100% on JK for not putting him in a position to use his strengths. But Pulisic is the guy at LM now so I'm not sure where you play him. I do think he actually plays behind the forwards for his club, maybe we try him at AM?

[Edited on November 12, 2016 at 11:29 AM. Reason : .]

11/12/2016 11:28:16 AM

Big4Country
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^AM would be an interesting for him.

11/12/2016 5:41:41 PM

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So it looks like the game isn't on tonight, as usual for road Wcq. Not even on univision it looks like.

11/15/2016 7:42:35 PM

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the fuck?

11/15/2016 8:48:50 PM

The E Man
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the game is on bein. you made me miss the first 2 minutes searching for a stream when it was on tv all along. Moral of the story is never trust anything you read on an internet message board.

11/15/2016 9:09:52 PM

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It's also on NBCUniverso, (which apparently I get). I'm not sure if that's the same as Telemundo or not

11/15/2016 10:24:06 PM

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Total collapse

11/15/2016 10:38:07 PM

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Jesus. 4-0 Ticos

11/15/2016 10:41:32 PM

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time for a new coach. shake things up.

[Edited on November 15, 2016 at 10:45 PM. Reason : #MAGA]

11/15/2016 10:41:43 PM

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"@PeteBlackburn 27 Minuten

America, November 2016: Klansmen in, Klinsmann out"

11/15/2016 11:11:48 PM

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Jesus fucking Christ, we are gonna waste Pulisic aren't we..

11/16/2016 8:53:44 AM

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aimorris has been unwavering in his support for JK since the last WC. Any movement there now?

The sun has to be setting on this guy. I don't see how he pulls out of this tailspin with the players and fans with how things have played out.

11/16/2016 10:57:06 AM

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Just about every major sports publication is against JK at this point. Soon, he'll be president.

11/16/2016 12:13:53 PM

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I wouldn't mind seeing him go, but the future is bright. We have 2 of the 3 toughest games in the hex out of the way and the playoff this time is CONCACAF 4 vs AFC 5. Had the schedule been different we could have easily walked through qualifying and lost our last 2 games to Mexico and Costa Rica. At that point everyone would say, "OMG! WE'RE SCREWED! WE JUST LOST OUR LAST 2 QUALIFIERS!"

11/16/2016 2:30:37 PM

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we dont want to just qualify. we should be able to compete with the best in concacaaf.

11/16/2016 7:00:37 PM

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c'mon Ribs, give me more credit than that bro. me last October...

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"wazza, it's okay to not want him fired but you have to admit there's a case. We didn't look good in a single game in the Gold Cup (except Cuba but whoooo cares) and got beat by both Panama/Jamaica and neither was undeserved. Losing a game to Mexico isn't the end of the world but on the back of those 2 consecutive defeats, it doesn't look great. 2014 WC performance wasn't good either but at least we got results. You can't accept 30% possession and double digit deficits in shots/chances AND not get the results. Bunkering and countering is an okay tactic if you don't get fucking scored on and actually create a few chances. When was the last time we were impressive over the majority of a 90 minute game? Scrubby Cuba in a GC. A few friendlies earlier this year? Not good enough.

My biggest problem with him at this point is how he's not advancing the player pool like I'd hoped. He calls a few young guys here and there but for the most part, he sticks with veterans in meaningful games and those that have not produced already (why the fuck is Wondo still getting called up, for example). Against Mexico, he started 9 of 10 field players from last year's opening WC game against Ghana and it probably would've been all 10 had Bedoya not been sick. That's unacceptable to me. Sticking with the same jabronies (Bornstein) is what finished off Bradley after the 2011 GC.

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Bradley lost a Gold Cup final to Mexico in his 2nd cycle and was canned. Klinsmann lost a GC, finishing 4th without even playing Mexico. I never said Bradley did better but he was let go for less than what's happened to Klinsmann.

I'm not arguing Klinsmann should definitely go or that he should definitely stay because I see both sides of the issue. You think these are growing pains and he'll turn it around. Most people, and I'm slowly starting to lean that way, don't see him turning this all around before WCQ and that he actually wants to drop Dempsey, Jozy, etc."


Here we are a year later and it's the same shit. He earned a slight reprieve for a decent Copa America but now we're back at it with his personnel selections. Chandler? Why in the fuck is he still getting called up? Orozco? Has never had a good US game. Michael Bradley first name on the team sheet and captain? Embarrassing. Bitch can't even take a decent corner. I like him a lot but old man Jermaine Jones? Not good enough anymore. JK called up Alan freaking Gordon to these qualifiers, mostly because Wondolowski is hurt. That is a joke.

Everybody harps on his tactics, which are sometimes head scratchers, but to me, a national team coach has to get the right players on the roster and on the field, first and foremost. JK is showing me right now that he just can't do that. He's gotta go.

11/16/2016 7:07:22 PM

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Klinsmann out

11/21/2016 3:25:23 PM

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Didn't think I would see it this fast

11/21/2016 3:40:24 PM

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According to Grant Wahl, Arena is the hire.... WTF? Haven't we been down that road before?

11/21/2016 3:43:58 PM

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he's going to be interim

[Edited on November 21, 2016 at 4:06 PM. Reason : supposedly]

11/21/2016 4:06:41 PM

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https://twitter.com/MLSsavage/status/800796366909870084/photo/1

11/21/2016 4:12:14 PM

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it wasn't fast. it could have happened after jamaica honestly. This last few games were critical and I stated that. Once again, I was correct.

11/21/2016 6:55:11 PM

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