Do you just 'god dammit' when old people come in and sit at your table?

[Edited on June 3, 2008 at 11:46 AM. Reason : ]

6/3/2008 11:46:11 AM

no, i did it when those people came in and sat down at my table... and working on capital blvd we had a lot of them

6/3/2008 11:47:41 AM

i love it when these threads happen.

people these days feel entitled to >20 percent for NO more work than people back in the day used to do who were happy to get a 10% tip.

6/3/2008 11:49:20 AM

No I'm saying this because old people tend to leave no tip on 50$+ bills. Nothing was stated about %

6/3/2008 11:49:58 AM

i'm not getting in the tipping argument... i just wanted to say those people

6/3/2008 11:49:59 AM

cost of living, motha fucka

gotta have incentives for people to work.

6/3/2008 11:50:07 AM

i'd be willing to bet they feel the same about negroes and old people

both tip horribly

6/3/2008 11:50:20 AM

Nah, some blacks tip

Old people never tip.

6/3/2008 11:51:38 AM

the best tables were when a group of like 10 teenagers sat down and started ordering everything on the menu.

you knew that they probably didnt have enough to cover their bill, and if they did, they definitely weren't leaving a tip.

6/3/2008 11:52:29 AM

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"cost of living, motha fucka gotta have incentives for people to work."

it used to cost what, 2 bucks for a meal back in the day?

6/3/2008 11:54:22 AM

6/3/2008 11:55:09 AM

^^^Yeah.

I'm not trying to make a point about how much people tip. I don't care, I usually don't tip more than 15% myself. I don't know where Smath74 assumed I was talking about tip amount. But last week at my bar 'Old People' accounted for 250$ (10 different tabs) of what I sold and left a total of 5$ (2 of 10). It's frustrating.

[Edited on June 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM. Reason : ]

6/3/2008 11:57:03 AM

get a real job

like in the back of the house

6/3/2008 11:58:43 AM

wooooo for being black and being a good tipper

6/3/2008 11:58:53 AM

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"I don't know where Smath74 assumed I was talking about tip "

People Who work for tips...

[Edited on June 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM. Reason : ]

6/3/2008 11:59:20 AM

it sucks that anyone has to tip

it's a form of bribery

6/3/2008 11:59:55 AM

I work at a restaurant that ONLY serves old, black, Jewish people. You all have it easy.

6/3/2008 12:00:21 PM

my tip starts at 20% and I deduct for instances of bad service from thereon
I also add for good service (at the very least I'll round up on 20% to make it an even bill)

the other day I had dinner with my gf at Max Brenner's on Broadway and I got the worst service of my life

I left that motherfucker a shiny new penny on a $37 bill

6/3/2008 12:00:51 PM

???

they have a kosher rosco's chicken and wallfles early bird special?

6/3/2008 12:01:14 PM

^^^^^I saw that and changed it

I just meant tip amount, not necessarily how much it should be, just the fact it should be something. 5%, 10%, 15%, whatever. Just something. You implied I was feeling that 15% isn't enough and I should be make 20+%.

[Edited on June 3, 2008 at 12:01 PM. Reason : ]

6/3/2008 12:01:29 PM

but you tip at the end...

its not really bribery if the server doesn't know what they're getting before hand

6/3/2008 12:01:43 PM

20% is customary for a "good" tip in the US

6/3/2008 12:02:23 PM

it is a form of bribery

especially if you go to that establishment on a regular basis

6/3/2008 12:02:46 PM

I still tip based on performance.

If I had an empty glass the whole night and no concern if my food was good, the lowest I've ever tipped was 12%, and that was me being unhappy. I'll never leave nothing (even though BEU and his friends did once, I left the poor girl a $20 gift card and wrote "sorry" on the napkin )

I had a pretty damn good waiter the other night that offered specials that were similar to what we were ordering to save us money. Glasses were always full or a new drink was brought before we were done. And, he was prompt as hell about the check and getting it rang up. I know sometimes they'll walk around to 3-4 other tables with your card in their pocket.

6/3/2008 12:03:14 PM

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"If I had an empty glass the whole night and no concern if my food was good, the lowest I've ever tipped was 12%, and that was me being unhappy."

WAY TO SHOW THEM!

6/3/2008 12:04:18 PM

it also brings about this elitest judgmental bullshit that people love to indulge in

pfft

6/3/2008 12:05:08 PM

if you keep coming back, and they know who you are and you don't give them any trouble, they're going to serve you better anyway

and in turn you're going to pay a better tip. 1. because you like going there and 2. because they serve you well

its a nice circular arrangement...not really a bribe

a bribe is like when you're at some shitty high class restaurant and you give the guy a $50 to skip ahead in line so you can sit before everyone else

6/3/2008 12:05:52 PM

gotta feel sorry for people who could get a couple hundred tax-free bucks under the table every single day

btw i'm a good tipper but if you dont like it get a different job

[Edited on June 3, 2008 at 12:06 PM. Reason : .]

6/3/2008 12:06:05 PM

the worst is the people who, the entire time you serve them, go, "oh you're doing such a wonderful job" and then tip you 7%

6/3/2008 12:07:12 PM

I'm not complaining about how much, but no tip.

This thread in no way was a thread about we deserve more, or 10% just isn't enough. I guess I was just wondering if other people get nothing from Old people frequently or if old people just hate me.
Shoulda been more clear in the start, whooops.

6/3/2008 12:09:29 PM

old people think a $5 bill fixes everything
you people try to get the bill reduced for 'poor quality food' you ate most of, and then stiff the waiter
europeans pretend they don't know what tipping is

6/3/2008 12:10:21 PM

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"Tipping, for example, is considered bribery in some societies, while in others the two concepts may be interchangeable."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bribery

i understand it's wiki, but I've understood this from other sources I've read

here another one with both words in the title

Tipping and Bribing when Travelling


http://ezinearticles.com/?Tipping-and-Bribing-when-Travelling&id=83942

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"If you continue to feel uncomfortable with the concept of bribery, consider it to be tipping before you receive the service offered!"

i can't find the article offhand which describe various attempts make in the past (American past that is) to make tipping illegal because it was thought to be a form of bribery

6/3/2008 12:10:33 PM

the worst is when old people leave you a nickel and a Werther's Original

6/3/2008 12:12:20 PM

^^stupid article says bribe south american guerilla warriors who stop your truck

6/3/2008 12:12:47 PM

and then you eat the nickle and put the candy in your pocket?

6/3/2008 12:12:49 PM

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"europeans pretend they don't know what tipping is"

they pay different wages for the service industry and therefore aren't expected to tip.

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"brings about this elitest judgmental bullshit that people love to indulge in"

well put.

That being said, I typically tip roughly 20% and go down from there based on service.

6/3/2008 12:13:25 PM

^^^ it was the quickest thing I could find through a google search, I barely read the article

the point is that, for some, the idea of bribing and tipping is a bit interchangable

and I'm going to go ahead with the negative and again say that tipping is a form of bribery

[Edited on June 3, 2008 at 12:14 PM. Reason : .]

6/3/2008 12:14:21 PM

I waited tables going through optometry school. The bitch of it was if someone left a small tip or no tip, then you just paid to work that table. They took out a tipshare which was 3% of the bill, not the tip. So at the end of the night, I had to give 3% of the total charged at my tables for a tipshare between the hostess and backbar. So if someone doesnt tip, I just paid 3% of thier bill to wait on them. shitty. Im not sure how other resturants do it, but I always leave a good tip, unless its just terrible service, then its 10%.

I think you have to work on of these jobs to appreciate tips.

6/3/2008 12:14:37 PM

bribery is a form of tipping

6/3/2008 12:14:55 PM

sure... why not...

6/3/2008 12:15:10 PM

the only reason I tip is to not be a jackass

if I could not tip and it be socially acceptable, I would never tip again

I hate just giving people money "because"

6/3/2008 12:16:21 PM

It's okay man, people like to jump on the tipping topic like they do on bbq, cookout vs. bojos, etc etc.

you were doomed from the start

6/3/2008 12:18:46 PM

if my service is not good, I have no problem not leaving a tip. the places i go often generally give me good service so it's not an issue most of the time.

6/3/2008 12:19:19 PM

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"the worst is the people who, the entire time you serve them, go, "oh you're doing such a wonderful job" and then tip you 7% "

That would be very aggravating.

[Edited on June 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM. Reason : lol]

6/3/2008 12:21:13 PM

move to japan. tipping there is actually considered rude.

6/3/2008 12:22:00 PM

Servers need to quit bitching. If they're not making enough in tips + regular salary to make minimum wage, their employers are required to make up the difference. Find a new job if you don't like how people don't tip for shitty service.

I'll always tip if the service is good...usually around 20%. But shitty service will get you much less, and sometimes nothing. And before people jump all over this post, I've worked as a server before, so I know what it's like.

[Edited on June 3, 2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason : .]

6/3/2008 12:30:41 PM

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"I hate just giving people money "because""

Then don't go out to fucking eat.

It shouldn't surprise anyone the number of people on TWW who don't tip much or at all.

6/3/2008 12:34:52 PM

^ actually he and everyone can do as they please. tipping has never been a 'requirement' of going out to eat. nice try telling others how to live their lives.

6/3/2008 12:38:54 PM

yeah, you also don't have to bathe or lower your voice from a yell. WTF is your point?

6/3/2008 12:42:01 PM

^ actually he and everyone can do as they please. tipping has never been a 'requirement' of going out to eat. nice try telling others how to live their lives.

6/3/2008 12:42:12 PM