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aaronburro
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^^ to be fair, I don't know that he can technically pardon someone who has yet to be charged, much less convicted.

2/12/2017 12:52:58 AM

kdogg(c)
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Holy crap dude....NIXON

2/12/2017 6:55:00 AM

thegoodlife3
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html

+all of the points

3/2/2017 1:52:33 AM

NyM410
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And... "President" Trump has officially requested the house Intelligence Committee to investigate Obama and 2016 and will not comment until this is complete.

This is fucking nuts. Fucking nuts. Anyone who voted for this fool should be ashamed.

(And the GOP needs to step up and stop this. Pence can sign your bullshit too.)

[Edited on March 5, 2017 at 9:01 AM. Reason : Also a way to basically pass the buck when it's obvious trump has nothing]

3/5/2017 8:53:47 AM

BanjoMan
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What if he does have something, and Obama was able to get a warrant to tap his phones? Then the president would have initiated an investigation into his own conspiracy.

Even I don't think that he is that dumb. There is nothing here and he is gonna blame it on the "fake news" and dems in the Senate.



[Edited on March 5, 2017 at 12:36 PM. Reason : a]

3/5/2017 12:36:17 PM

dtownral
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Trump always goes on Twitter benders before a news break

3/5/2017 12:49:17 PM

eleusis
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Didn't Snowden expose that we did this shit to EVERYONE under FISA warrants, and the IRS was directed to target conservative groups under Obama, but now it's preposterous to think Obama may have ordered investigations including wiretaps into Trump?

3/5/2017 12:49:37 PM

dtownral
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No, he did not show that Obama directed for a warrants on everyone

[Edited on March 5, 2017 at 12:51 PM. Reason : For a = fisa]

3/5/2017 12:51:30 PM

NyM410
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This is ludicrous. Literally insane. It doesn't even make sense at base level. So Obama ordered wiretaps, collected evidence and sat on it while watching the FBI leak nonsense after nonsense about what was on Weiner's laptop and then Trump closing gap and ultimately winning?

So he's doing all this illegal work and then doesn't even use it? It makes no fucking sense. But Breitbart...

And of course lapdog Nunes is on the case just like I'm sure Burr will be shortly on the Senate side. I can't wait until Obama finally loses it and unleashes on this sideshow circus freak in the White House.

3/5/2017 1:13:26 PM

eleusis
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ordered wiretaps, found nothing regarding Russia, tried to collect Trump campaign strategy information to help Hillary with a counter-offensive, but found nothing resembling a campaign strategy either because there wasn't one.

3/5/2017 1:27:03 PM

NyM410
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Absolute madness. People have lost their mind.

(and the issue is not whether or not a FISA warrant was issued but rather if Obama did it outside of the law)

[Edited on March 5, 2017 at 1:36 PM. Reason : X]

3/5/2017 1:30:28 PM

BridgetSPK
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Quote :
" I can't wait until Obama finally loses it and unleashes on this sideshow circus freak in the White House."


I don't understand how the Bush family hasn't had Trump killed yet.

3/5/2017 2:24:26 PM

thegoodlife3
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really excited for people to attempt to excuse this behavior

3/5/2017 2:48:02 PM

NyM410
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I mean the GOP already said they'll investigate it as part of the Russia look.

That's fine but when/if the dems get power back they should go scorched earth times ten. It obviously works. Fuck discourse at this point.

3/5/2017 3:42:37 PM

dtownral
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eleusis is a cuckold also when it comes to politics

3/5/2017 3:59:08 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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Here's a gem from the National Review:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump

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"Nevertheless, whether done inside or outside the FISA process, it would be a scandal of Watergate dimension if a presidential administration sought to conduct, or did conduct, national-security surveillance against the presidential candidate of the opposition party. Unless there was some powerful evidence that the candidate was actually acting as an agent of a foreign power, such activity would amount to a pretextual use of national-security power for political purposes. That is the kind of abuse that led to Richard Nixon’s resignation in lieu of impeachment.

Moreover, it cannot be glossed over that, at the very time it appears the Obama Justice Department was seeking to surveil Trump and/or his associates on the pretext that they were Russian agents, the Obama Justice Department was also actively undermining and ultimately closing without charges the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton despite significant evidence of felony misconduct that threatened national security.

This appears to be extraordinary, politically motivated abuse of presidential power."

The presidential administration seeking to conduct national-security surveillance against the presidential candidate of the opposition party might be unprecedented, but I wouldn't necessarily characterize it as any more of a scandal than the presidential candidate of the opposition party potentially requiring national-security surveillance in and of itself.

However, I also wouldn't necessarily characterize it as any more unprecedented than the presidential candidate of the opposition party potentially requiring national-security surveillance.

What is the presidential administration expected to do in that situation?

[Edited on March 5, 2017 at 11:41 PM. Reason : ]

3/5/2017 11:34:18 PM

TreeTwista10
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The NSA doesn't spy on Trump, just every single other American

3/6/2017 2:02:28 AM

JCE2011
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Maybe after all of the Russia #FakeNews Trump figured he could just make up his own conspiracy theory to trigger the leftists. Either way it is entertaining.

3/6/2017 12:17:19 PM

afripino
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<insert the ol' "two wrongs" adage here>

3/6/2017 2:19:14 PM

moron
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"I don't understand how the Bush family hasn't had Trump killed yet.
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Trump is single-handedly saving Bush's legacy.

3/6/2017 5:41:25 PM

JCE2011
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Nothing but silence ITT after the latest WikiLeaks eh? I guess nobody has the heart to do it to their Nobel-prize winning God-King.

Fine, I'll do it.

-10000000000000 credibility

3/7/2017 10:56:51 PM

Dentaldamn
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Fake news!

3/7/2017 11:23:42 PM

moron
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Hmmm

3/8/2017 5:18:27 PM

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