just installed it

ff 3.5
greasemonkey 0.8.20090123.1
vista

[Edited on August 4, 2009 at 3:21 PM. Reason : dur]

8/4/2009 3:20:28 PM

not saying a link where the my topics are, but a link that opens a window like the search

[Edited on August 4, 2009 at 4:15 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2009 4:14:34 PM

Hey

So I know people are complaining about the user block plugin removing decent threads made by shitty users; maybe instead of removing threads and posts wholesale, you could just make them less noticeable. Drop the color contrast and shade stuff a la Stack Overflow. The highlighted posts feature could work similarly.

8/4/2009 9:09:00 PM

this thread is pitiful

8/4/2009 9:48:59 PM

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"blocks are by user number iirc"

yes but i can't search the file for the number if i don't know what it is. I mean i could just block someone then search it but i'd rather bitch about it suggest an alternative.

8/4/2009 10:20:34 PM

Finding a user's number is as easy as clicking on their profile.

8/4/2009 10:31:55 PM

Quote :

"Is there a way to see the list of users you blocked? i think i blocked somebody by accident,"

8/5/2009 12:51:34 AM

Yeah, get their user number and ctrl+f the script. I think that's been explained.

8/5/2009 8:10:56 AM

I've moved most of the parsing code out of the main script and into a dependency. That should make it a little easier to work with. I've also been taking notes on your posts. Blocked user management is going to get much easier in the next release. I hope to roll it out today.

8/5/2009 8:54:39 AM

frosh, are you actually for blocking users?

like, do you block any users?

8/5/2009 11:53:40 AM

Nope. As I posted earlier:

Quote :

"Honestly, I want it to take some effort to block people. To me, the Wolf Web would not be very interesting if we were all having completely different, sanitized experiences."

But user blocking is a very visible display of radical functionality, which makes it an awesome demo of the kinds of things the script enables.

8/5/2009 12:28:19 PM

is there a way to code an IF( on the link to photo gallery. i just tried to use it in Classifieds and got an "OH SHIT!" due to someone not having a gallery.

-MDM-

8/5/2009 1:00:12 PM

There is no way of telling from a given thread whether a poster has a photo gallery. If the Wolf Web can't handle a request for a non-existent gallery, that ain't on me.

8/5/2009 1:03:31 PM

Ah, fuck - here's an idea. An easily toggled "SFW" mode. Essentially hide any media in posts except for images hosted in the thewolfweb.com/images folder. I guess that would include embedded audio and video as well as pictures, but pictures would be enough for me. I'm making the assumption that greasemonkey changes the page before it's ever rendered, or before the resources are requested.

Later features along that line could include the ability to preview or load individual elements, and perhaps the ability to permanently flag an item as either SFW or NSFW.

[Edited on August 5, 2009 at 1:11 PM. Reason : Also, optionally changing the color scheme to something less conspicuous than red would be cool.]

8/5/2009 1:09:04 PM

evan wrote at TWW@Work script

it is hidden somewhere here in FF

8/5/2009 1:22:01 PM

Okay, 0.3 is live: http://jlhamilt.freeshell.org/better_wolf_web.user.js

The changes demand a little more in-depth discussion. Most of the page parsing is handled by functions in a separate library now. By the time I'm done, the parsers will all be returning useful values that you'll be able to pass as arguments to your custom functions.

I fixed the quick search box. Click on the search image on the message boards list or in any message board.

Blocked users can now be managed in a very half-assed way via a dialog that slides down from the wolf logo.

Posts by blocked users are now hidden in threads. You can view them by clicking the "Show this post" link that replaces the content.

All post content is wrapped with a class and a unique ID. I'm using it in the post blocker for now, but there are other applications on the way.

You may have issues with the user blocker. If so, choose the "Clear blocked users list" command under the User Script Commands menu. The blocked users list now contains the users' names and IDs in JSON and is incompatible with the last release's format.

There is probably a whole goddamn lot of shaky stuff going on in this one. I guarantee you that things will break. I didn't even document this one very well. Expect major performance improvements in the next release.

8/5/2009 1:45:38 PM

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"Yeah, get their user number and ctrl+f the script. I think that's been explained."

are you retarded? I was browsing a few profiles a few days ago and think i might have block user clicked it by accident. Nevertheless, i didn't even notice until i started seeing the show blocked threads thing which i assumed didn't show up until you blocked someone. As i previously stated, i figured out who it was simply by blocking someone else then searching the file for a list. The only reason i posted that in the first place was to suggest an alternative: perhaps a little drop down box with all the blocked user's names.


Also in 0.3 Instead of block on a profile it says Opa and doesn't do anything that as far as i can tell.

[Edited on August 5, 2009 at 2:59 PM. Reason : ]

8/5/2009 2:54:58 PM

why don't you make a thread exception array, where you can specify threads to not block even if they are made by a blocked user?

8/5/2009 3:01:07 PM

I think the latest one is broken already... seems like none of the features are working

8/5/2009 3:11:20 PM

casummer said:

Quote :

"Also in 0.3 Instead of block on a profile it says Opa and doesn't do anything that as far as i can tell."

Try this:

Quote :

"You may have issues with the user blocker. If so, choose the "Clear blocked users list" command under the User Script Commands menu. The blocked users list now contains the users' names and IDs in JSON and is incompatible with the last release's format."

BigMan157 said:

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"why don't you make a thread exception array, where you can specify threads to not block even if they are made by a blocked user?"

The abridged long answer is because that particular feature has incredibly low priority relative to my design goals for this project, and it's exactly the kind of feature I am working to enable other people to create with ease.

The short answer is because I think blocking people is fucking stupid, and if you find yourself wanting to unblock a thread someone made, there is something redeeming enough about that user that you probably ought not have blocked him in the first place.

Threads by blocked users are tucked away in the threads list and can be revealed with a click. Posts made by blocked users in a thread can be revealed with a click as well. In my opinion, returns diminish greatly if you take it further than that.

wdprice3 said:

Quote :

"I think the latest one is broken already... seems like none of the features are working"

Can you be more specific? What features are working, and which ones aren't? What version of Firefox are you using? What OS? What version of Greasemonkey?

8/5/2009 3:23:32 PM

the search drop down doesn't seem to work.
I tried clearing the list already. idk i haven't restarted firefox, maybe that will help.

[Edited on August 5, 2009 at 3:33 PM. Reason : ]

8/5/2009 3:32:49 PM

Yeah nothing works for me either. Well, under posts the photo gallrey and whatever the other link is thing works..but that's it

8/5/2009 3:37:53 PM

can you add a feature to make everyone more interesting?

a personality enhancement feature?

8/5/2009 3:38:53 PM

I think I missed a line or some shit. You guys should reinstall.

8/5/2009 3:40:57 PM

still nothin

8/5/2009 3:42:22 PM

Again! I made a pretty stupid mistake that I should have caught.

8/5/2009 3:46:55 PM

zilch

8/5/2009 3:49:02 PM

Reinstall from the link: http://jlhamilt.freeshell.org/better_wolf_web.user.js

8/5/2009 3:56:13 PM

nope

[Edited on August 5, 2009 at 3:59 PM. Reason : i really hope i'm not doing something wrong, lol..in profiles its saying "OPA" btw, instead of block]

8/5/2009 3:58:52 PM

I knew the damn block list was the culprit.

Uninstall the script. Make sure that when you do, the checkbox marked "Also uninstall associated preferences" is checked. Reinstall from the link.

8/5/2009 4:03:18 PM

still no for me.

8/5/2009 4:05:29 PM

One more round of uninstall and install. Know that you have suffered that others might not.

8/5/2009 4:19:19 PM

0

[Edited on August 5, 2009 at 4:31 PM. Reason : do i have to restart firefox between reinstalls or anything?]

8/5/2009 4:31:01 PM

anyone got a link to the last working version?

8/5/2009 9:13:51 PM

Quote :

"The short answer is because I think blocking people is fucking stupid"

Q F FUCKIN T

8/5/2009 10:07:59 PM

oooh i like the view pics thing.

doesn't show up in the window below when you hit reply, not that that's really neccessary. just something i noticed.

8/6/2009 8:22:29 AM

I've set the script to not run in pages loaded in IFRAMEs for now.

[Edited on August 6, 2009 at 8:26 AM. Reason : Feature, not a bug.]

8/6/2009 8:26:28 AM

works now. fuck yaa

8/6/2009 9:33:36 AM

^

[Edited on August 6, 2009 at 10:26 AM. Reason : .]

8/6/2009 10:18:35 AM

Yeah, you'd better upgrade your shit. I'm unapologetically using some stuff that's only available in 3.5 and up.

8/6/2009 10:25:58 AM

damn you just beat my edit

8/6/2009 10:27:34 AM

I know it would drastically alter the oh-so-popular minimalistic look that TWW has going for it, but have you thought of changing the links for user info, edit post, photo gallery, and send PM to small icons displayed horizontally underneath the post count? Four lines of options is a bit much to look at, IMO. As I'm sure you've noticed it stretches the cell of a post out if you only type 1-2 lines.

8/6/2009 9:56:15 PM

I have, actually. I've been considering setting the poster's cell's rowspan to 2, moving the timestamp and some of that stuff into a second row, and calling it good. I'm absolutely uninterested in creating graphical assets for this script, though, so I'm not inclined to make icons for that stuff. At most, they'll be text links.

Not sure if I'm going to put that in the next release. I haven't even started working on it.

8/6/2009 10:11:57 PM

I think blocking a user disables the who's online list.

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

8/7/2009 2:17:29 AM

^nope, its busted now.

8/7/2009 2:20:20 AM

I wish I could get poll posted or something for voting on the next round of features.

My goal for the next release is to get the parser functions returning data that can be passed to helper functions. I'd like to document things a bit more clearly, too. That said, there are some other things I could do. Let me know what you think of:

* converting YouTube links to embedded objects
* saving drafts of posts
* reintroducing user-friendly topic classing
* extending the blocking feature to your private messages

8/7/2009 8:57:10 AM

Quote :

"* converting YouTube links to embedded objects"

Interests me

Quote :

"* saving drafts of posts"

Most browsers sort of do this, as in the text is still there if you navigate away from the page and come back.


The other two don't really pertain to me.
Awesome job so far though!

8/7/2009 10:33:37 AM

add an icon near the timestamp of a post if someone ghost/ninja edits it

something like this (but preferably on the left side of the timestamp, not the right):

8/7/2009 10:48:21 AM

Oh yeah, I saw that suggestion and meant to respond to it.

There are several ways to ghost edit, and I'm not interested in writing code to detect them all. Even if it were the simplest thing in the world, I don't think it would appreciably enhance the experience. What do you gain from knowing that someone hid their edit tag?

8/7/2009 10:56:11 AM

i agree it'd be pretty cool

8/7/2009 10:56:35 AM