Now, somebody post that two-steppin' dinosaur, so that I may mimic his movements while gesturing with my hands (inside of my office with the door closed, so no one thinks I'm crazy, of course) .

2/17/2010 10:57:49 AM

It's gonna cost you.

2/17/2010 10:59:19 AM

2/17/2010 10:59:25 AM

2/17/2010 10:59:39 AM

I think he is referring to the get money fuck bitches dinosaur

2/17/2010 11:00:37 AM

Frosh, ur totally harshin' my buzz, BRAH

2/17/2010 11:01:14 AM

I accept no raises below 20%.

2/17/2010 11:01:59 AM

^you prolly dont get raises that often then

2/17/2010 11:02:29 AM

Not last year. But the year before it was 21%. Woot.

Mainly I get that kinda bump from changing jobs.

2/17/2010 11:03:13 AM

OTR I'll take any raise this place will give me with a smile on my face

2/17/2010 11:03:47 AM

so far this thread has disappointed... but congrats on the raise

2/17/2010 11:04:34 AM

now you're climbin' to the top of the company ladder
hope it doesn't take too long
can't ya see there'll come a day when it won't matter
come a day when you'll be gone

2/17/2010 11:23:35 AM

I UNDERSTAND ABOUT INDECISION

BUT I DON'T CARE IF I GET BEHIND

PEOPLE LIVIN' IN COMPETITION

ALL I WANT IS TO HAVE MY PEACE OF MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII-IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND

WHOO!

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 11:25 AM. Reason : fuck yes]

2/17/2010 11:24:47 AM

2/17/2010 11:25:00 AM

this thread gives me a raise in my pants

2/17/2010 11:25:42 AM

Lettuce pray!

2/17/2010 11:35:49 AM

^^Jizz in my pants

amirite?

2/17/2010 12:47:55 PM

2/17/2010 12:49:46 PM

2/17/2010 12:51:59 PM

Congrats Jeff!!! Yay!!!

2/17/2010 12:53:30 PM

2/17/2010 12:54:42 PM

Since you just got a raise, will you donate money to support my fundraising efforts in Tour de Cure (supports diabetes research)?

http://main.diabetes.org/site/TR/TourdeCure/TDC230458030?px=5137472&pg=personal&fr_id=6670

Thx b00!

2/17/2010 12:56:13 PM

2/17/2010 12:57:45 PM

fuck diabetes research

STOP EATIN CAKE

support something worthwhile, like jerry's kids

2/17/2010 12:58:01 PM

2/17/2010 1:01:45 PM

^^ But I'm addicted to cake.



PLZ TO HAVE $$$?

2/17/2010 1:06:10 PM

i thought you got fired last week or something

you got some bilpolar-ass management yonder

2/17/2010 1:25:37 PM

YONDER

2/17/2010 1:26:48 PM

ANGEL OF MINE

2/17/2010 1:26:55 PM

I realize this thread is about getting a raise....which I have not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

2/17/2010 1:49:23 PM

i did a little twostep while mimicking his hands for ya jeff

you better slap Wordsworth across the mouth when you get home and show her who is boss

2/17/2010 2:41:54 PM

^^thats getting old

2/17/2010 2:46:01 PM

OMG YOU GOT A RAISE AND BECAME A MOD

HOW COOL IS IT TO BE YOU!!1!

2/17/2010 2:46:04 PM

^^that shit has been old from the get-go

2/17/2010 3:07:49 PM

^ and ^^^ are faggots

2/17/2010 3:38:02 PM

Quote :

"i thought you got fired last week or something you got some bilpolar-ass management yonder "

schnah, brah. that was just some ish that involved me, but wasn't my fault. I was in the right though. I guess there's a difference between MY management and PROGRAM management. They don't always see eye to eye.

Quote :

"OMG YOU GOT A RAISE AND BECAME A MOD HOW COOL IS IT TO BE YOU!!1!"

inorite! I can say that one led to the other though. Once they saw that I put "Official TWW Old School Moderator" on my resume... my worth to the company rose dramatically. It's like they had NO CHOICE but to give me my comeuppance . Bestus, G.

Lettuce pray.

2/17/2010 4:22:25 PM

congrats!!!

2/17/2010 4:29:27 PM

w00t! thanks!

2/17/2010 4:30:59 PM

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2/17/2010 4:48:54 PM

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 5:19 PM. Reason : AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

2/17/2010 5:18:22 PM

^ hahahahaha, that first gif with that song made me lol.

2/17/2010 7:59:59 PM

congrats Jeff!!!

2/17/2010 8:16:20 PM

emce gave me a raise

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM. Reason : ]

2/17/2010 8:20:01 PM

2/17/2010 8:22:32 PM

Quote :

"you better slap Wordsworth across the mouth when you get home and show her who is boss"

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