http://www.city-data.com/forum/san-francisco/1161866-business-opportunity-east-bay-ers.html

12/30/2010 2:53:05 AM

lol

12/30/2010 2:56:51 AM

I laffed

12/30/2010 2:58:09 AM

gg

Quote :

"Thanks!! Wow yeah that actually did help"

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 2:59 AM. Reason : ]

12/30/2010 2:58:33 AM

not a tww original.

12/30/2010 3:01:51 AM

critic ITT!!!1

12/30/2010 3:04:56 AM

hahaha

12/30/2010 8:03:55 AM

lol @ having to explain it was a joke to the guy.

12/30/2010 8:12:00 AM

Fucking hilarious. And of course this didn't originate from TWW.

12/30/2010 8:16:13 AM

Damnit, is this really not a tww original? I dont frequent other forums enough to know, apparently.

Perceptions shattered, ITT.

12/30/2010 8:16:53 AM

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+am+in+outside+sales,+which+is+currently+salary%22

12/30/2010 8:24:26 AM

The original was posted 1/11/2010 11:26:22 PM. I haven't seen anything even near that, closest being Mar 2010.

12/30/2010 8:26:50 AM

i admit it, i thought it was a tww original, too

i thought it was a serious response to a thread by a noob many moons ago

12/30/2010 8:34:03 AM

Here's the original

message_topic.aspx?topic=585855&page=1#13643592

Quote :

"I have been in this position since July 2009."

Quote :

"This is what I have noticed in my six months"

July to January = 6 months

He mentions 'PM me', which although common for the internet, is a strongly used term here.

And his followup to questions

Quote :

"I was comparing starting a company to outside sales... I basically will be in business for myself in July. I'm not sure where you are confused? You asked for lessons. The lessons in my business are that I have competition (or super saturation) from direct mfg's, other large distributors like myself, and smaller local guys. "

Quote :

"I was merely trying to say, that while you are starting out... things that could also go into consideration are the competition you will face."

Could be a simple repost that was made very near that date, changing the copy/pasta to match the dates, and then being a very effective troll in the followup discussion, but I think that's too much effort for a simple meme. I think its legit.

12/30/2010 8:42:02 AM

hmm that does seem pretty solid...and when i modify the google search to only return results before 1/1/2010 the meme is gone.

12/30/2010 8:56:04 AM

there are tww users on the phish board, since there are only 10 results it could be legit

12/30/2010 8:57:57 AM

i was under the impression this definitely was a tww original

12/30/2010 9:31:54 AM

yeah me too. I thought in another thread someone posted the original thread.

12/30/2010 9:34:38 AM

trolls!!

12/30/2010 9:41:48 AM

so do we come original?

12/30/2010 9:42:38 AM

BigHit gets credit for starting this meme

message_topic.aspx?topic=585782&page=1#13645233

12/30/2010 9:43:04 AM

hmm...the brownie post was on 1/11, the BHS one is 1/12

12/30/2010 9:49:57 AM

Wow I never followed the history of that meme. Didn't know that somebody from TDub was the original poster. With so much shit recycled on the web, that just makes this one even fucking funnier. So brownie27 wrote it and BigHitSunday was the first to re-post for the LOLs.

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 9:52 AM. Reason : ]

12/30/2010 9:51:42 AM

Quote :

"So brownie27 wrote it and BigHitSunday was the first to re-post for the LOLs."

yup

12/30/2010 9:57:47 AM

^^ this probably isn't the best keyword to look for, but this search provides a pretty decent record of it's history, if you start at 1/11/2010

message_search.aspx?type=posts&searchstring=deviations

12/30/2010 10:03:17 AM

So nobody posted it in this thread yet... Interesting.

12/30/2010 10:03:30 AM

regardless of where it originated, I first saw it on TWW

^ and you should take note, because that is how it's done

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 12:02 PM. Reason : asdf]

12/30/2010 11:56:10 AM

fuuu

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 12:41 PM. Reason : not Fareako...again.]

12/30/2010 12:40:50 PM

I realize this thread is about not posting as Skwinkle when reading TWW on her laptop.... which I have not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

12/30/2010 12:42:08 PM

this was brought to the phish boards from tww

12/30/2010 12:53:09 PM

my god, there's a message board dedicated to phish?

12/30/2010 1:00:54 PM

amazing

12/30/2010 1:41:35 PM

I figured more TWW trolls would have posted ITT by now

I was wrong

12/30/2010 1:50:20 PM

iop1

12/30/2010 1:58:21 PM

Quote :

"^ and you should take note, because that is how it's done"

Reposting a worn out meme on TWW is hardly a good troll anymore. Unless someone does a damn good job of applying it well in a thread, I just skip past it and go to the relevant or better troll posts.

12/30/2010 2:03:46 PM

troll

12/30/2010 2:05:18 PM

Are you going to get mad again?

12/30/2010 2:20:56 PM

I'm glad to see that a meme started on TWW made it's way out.

12/30/2010 9:59:38 PM

I laughed. I wish the poster hadn't fessed up that it was a joke

12/30/2010 10:13:22 PM

i still cant read that fucking wall of text without blanking out

12/30/2010 10:22:07 PM

Wow yeah that actually did help. Gives me some sort of direction to follow. Big account followed by the smaller ones. Too bad you couldn't come aboard with mines in your spare time, would surely appreciate the help and you look like you know what you're doing.

12/31/2010 12:42:20 AM

Yeah I am not a lazy reader and to this day I haven't made it even halfway through that post. Something about it makes me go crosseyed and I physically cannot continue reading it

12/31/2010 2:30:41 AM

Quote :

"mines "

12/31/2010 2:38:15 PM