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pack_bryan
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just so you know... there were some days in class when you didn't show up and people would just laugh and say to each other "oh it's so nice and quiet today.... oh... that annoying idiot at the front didn't show up"

lol




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3/1/2012 2:53:43 PM

aaronburro
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and there were days in class where people would point and laugh at you as you fellated yourself to pics of ron burgundy. what class. what year. what semester.


so, answer the questions:
1) is coal radioactive
2) did you originally dispute that coal was radioactive

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 3:01 PM. Reason : ]

3/1/2012 3:00:40 PM

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Once again...

Tokyo Electric Admits Radiation Levels Inside Reactor Much, Much Worse than Estimated

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/9171532/Fukushima-reports-high-radiation-levels.html

New measurements from inside reactor 2 are now seven times higher than previous estimates. It also has mere inches of water in the cooling system, rather than the 10 yard depth previously released. Work by humans will be absolutely impossible, and likely push back the 40 year cleanup timeline. Still no measurements from the other reactors...

Meanwhile the makeshift pumps are still leaking into the ocean and remain perilously vulnerable to continuing earthquakes in the region.

3/28/2012 4:31:01 PM

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3/28/2012 8:15:23 PM

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Power company demands massive taxpayer bailout to cover nuclear expenses.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-tepco-idUSBRE82S0F620120329

3/30/2012 2:56:49 AM

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Japan's other disaster:
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/pulse/news/20120319p2a00m0na020000c.html

4/1/2012 12:27:30 PM

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All reactors in Japan have now been shut down.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/japans-last-reactor-to-shut-down-leaving-country-nuclear-free-for-first-time-since-1966/2012/05/04/gIQAcNKx0T_story.html

5/4/2012 2:15:23 PM

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NRC Launches Special Investigation At Shearon Harris Plant
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/08/2049715/feds-launch-special-inspection.html

All three major steam isolation valves failed to close on April 21.

5/8/2012 1:17:47 PM

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I strongly regret my choice of a provocative title for this thread.

5/8/2012 8:10:14 PM

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Yeah, I would have left off the "in Fault Zones".

Shearon Harris is certainly old, but I am personally more concerned about the license renewal for the Brunswick Generating Station in Wilmington. There's no excuse to still be using BWR's with known faults and recent meltdowns elsewhere in the world.

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NRC is systematically underestimating the true costs of nuclear energy. Even dismantling an abandoned plant will require a taxpayer bailout.
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/n-r-c-falls-short-on-financial-oversight-audit-says/

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2012 8:43:08 PM

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^ well, if morons like you didn't hold up plans for newer, safer, more robust designs, then the utilities wouldn't have to try and get licenses for the older designs extended. you made your bed, now lie in it.

5/8/2012 9:23:50 PM

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Require a bailout to build. Requires a government-granted monopoly to operate. Requires a bailout to tear down.

I think Mr. Aaronburro is a socialist.

5/8/2012 10:37:47 PM

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Quote :
"Require a bailout to build."

under current onerous regulations and massive lawsuits from fucking morons like you, sure.

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"Requires a government-granted monopoly to operate."

not really. our current gov't makes that necessary, but it's not intrinsically required for nuclear power.

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"Requires a bailout to tear down."

again, only under our current onerous and absurd gov't regulations.

5/8/2012 10:42:44 PM

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wrong thread!

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2012 10:56:53 PM

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In response to last year's disaster, the NRC and FEMA have drastically changed their rules for emergency preparedness drills simulating radiation release scenarios...by no longer requiring them.

Just another example that the industry is being allowed to regulate itself, just like in Japan.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47446197/ns/us_news-environment/#.T7QzcVJNvd4

5/16/2012 7:15:38 PM

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There is chatter about a nuclear accident in Indiana.

Official story is that it was a false alarm, but the feds are mobilizing like crazy up there and there are independent reports of elevated radiation levels, so who knows.
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120608/NEWS07/120609580

[Edited on June 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM. Reason : .]

6/8/2012 11:35:18 AM

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Radiation travels. If Ohio/Pennsylvania etc., are picking up higher radiation levels, then I would believe that something happened and that it's not an isolated instance of telemetry errors by a piece of equipment.

6/8/2012 12:12:18 PM

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The EPA seems to have removed their real-time levels from public viewing this morning.
http://naturalsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/radiationcount.png

When I tried the same query just a moment ago all values for today were blank.



[Edited on June 8, 2012 at 12:28 PM. Reason : Servers could be swamped, I guess.]

6/8/2012 12:23:05 PM

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Show us where to run the query instead of a png from 2 days ago.

nm, found it, running query now.

It's a fuckin' conspiracy, i tells ya:



do you ever fact-check a single thing you post?
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/query.do

[Edited on June 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM. Reason : for fucks sake]

6/8/2012 12:43:01 PM

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Cool, it's back now.

Well that was fun, I'll have to do this again sometime soon.



[Edited on June 8, 2012 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .]

6/8/2012 1:08:57 PM

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do what again? troll? provide false information?

6/8/2012 1:23:39 PM

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Fresh leaks at Fukushima
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22079370

Worrying cutrate reactors in third-world countries with millions living in their shadow.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/347947

Human exposure seems to minimal, however, thanks to extreme dietary precautions.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/11/national/radioactive-cesium-not-detectable-in-99-of-fukushima-residents-study/


[Edited on April 14, 2013 at 9:38 PM. Reason : .]

4/14/2013 9:37:01 PM

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http://www.wral.com/duke-suspends-plans-for-shearon-harris-expansion/12408113/
http://www.wral.com/crack-in-nuclear-reactor-forces-shearon-harris-to-shut-down/12453472/

Quote :
"Shearon Harris was taken offline last year[Spring 2012] for refueling, and ultrasonic tests of the reactor were taken at that time. A secondary review of those tests this week revealed the "primary water stress corrosion cracking" on a nozzle that overlaps a weld on the reactor head."


It took over a year to interpret the data. The NRC says there is no evidence of a leak based on the inspection at that time. Now?

Duke Energy abandoned their Crystal River plant in Florida altogether last month after attempts to fix cracks only caused more.

[Edited on May 16, 2013 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

5/16/2013 12:15:25 PM

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^ This issue is the fault of AREVA. They do the vessel head inspections in the nuclear industry. They missed it and were the ones reviewing the data later on before realizing their fuck up.

5/16/2013 3:57:15 PM

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Meanwhile, on the west coast, another reactor has been shutdown indefinitely due to radiation leaks and...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcpy2pETZzQ



[Edited on May 25, 2013 at 11:50 PM. Reason : .]

5/25/2013 11:50:05 PM

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The industry tail wags the NRC dog, as usual.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/may/24/tp-san-onofre-restart-could-be-okd-before-probe/


Lacking proper government instructions, many fukushima residents evacuated directly into the path of fallout.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/05/27/national/expand-health-survey-beyond-fukushima-u-n/


Fearing they would lose their taxpaying subjects, Japanese leaders increased acceptable radiation levels for resettlement to four times the limit used as evacuation criteria at Chernobyl.
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201305250053

5/26/2013 6:26:22 PM

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Did you shit yourself the first time you saw an iron horse? What about a horseless carriage?

5/27/2013 5:53:36 PM

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Hooray!
http://www.wral.com/nrc-crack-repaired-shearon-harris-safe-to-operate/12515548/

Cleaning Up America's First Nuclear Reactor, Leaking for Decades, Expected to Cost Hundreds of Billions and take until 2067.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2013/06/03/environment/leaks-complicate-cleanup-of-u-s-nuclear-facility/

6/5/2013 9:40:42 AM

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you probably hide in a corner when someone turns on the magic candles in glass, don't you?

6/7/2013 1:06:25 AM

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SONGS units 2 and 3 shuttered.

http://nuclearstreet.com/nuclear_power_industry_news/b/nuclear_power_news/archive/2013/06/07/sce-to-permanently-shutdown-san-onofre-nuclear-plant-songs.aspx

6/7/2013 10:47:39 AM

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San Onofre was an American Fukushima waiting to happen; horrific mismanagement and located beachfront in a fault zone. It was the poster boy for this thread. Unit 1 was decommissioned long ago, by the way, so now the only issue is how to clean up the site. It houses 1400 tons of nuclear waste just meters from the Pacific Ocean, 75% of it in vulnerable pools. I doubt it will be properly dealt with before a natural disaster strikes.

6/7/2013 1:02:41 PM

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Why are the pools "vulnerable?"

6/8/2013 9:54:12 AM

aaronburro
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Because smc is afraid of his own shadow

6/8/2013 6:31:21 PM

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Yet another tank at Hanford is leaking into groundwater.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/22/19088481-feds-nuclear-waste-may-be-leaking-into-soil-from-hanford-site?lite

6/22/2013 7:39:56 PM

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Tepco admits radioactivity is still leaking into the ocean. Cleanup expected to cost four times more than the money that's available. Displaced locals have still not been compensated for their homes.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/with-fukushima-nuclear-plant-still-leaking-japan-cleanup-bill-soars-to-50bn-8730832.html



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Russia to begin selling floating power plants to be distributed all over the world.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-ck-daly/chernobyl-at-sea_b_3600556.html



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Meanwhile, they still haven't contained the Chernobyl disaster. Construction of the new housing has just begun after 25 years of the plant being left in open air. The building will be wheeled over the broken concrete sarcophagus when finished.



http://rt.com/news/chernobyl-new-safe-confinement-773/

7/25/2013 10:01:37 PM

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/02/us/florida-nuclear-project-is-dropped.html?_r=0
$1 Billion of Duke customer money wasted

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/02/taiwan-lawmakers-exchange-punches-over-nuclear-plant-bill/






The senator in the helmet is ready to throw down!

[Edited on August 2, 2013 at 12:29 AM. Reason : .]

8/2/2013 12:29:31 AM

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I honestly don't know how you manage to get out of bed every morning. You might stub your toe on the way out the door!

8/4/2013 5:20:23 PM

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/10/underground-ice-wall-is-japan-latest-hope-for-stemming-fukushima-leaks/

(i still fully support nuclear power.)

8/10/2013 3:56:44 PM

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I still fully support nuclear power.

Fukushima leak is much worse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23779561


Spain closing nuclear power plants due to budget shortfalls, taxes solar power to pay for the remaining aging nuclear plants.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/agencia-efe/130707/spain-closes-controversial-nuclear-power-plant
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2013/08/19/out-of-ideas-and-in-debt-spain-sets-sights-on-taxing-the-sun/

I still fully support nuclear power.


[Edited on August 22, 2013 at 1:26 PM. Reason : .]

8/22/2013 1:20:07 PM

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http://endtimeheadlines.wordpress.com/2013/08/18/at-the-very-least-your-days-of-eating-pacific-ocean-fish-are-over/

What do you think? Will this source be discredited by TWW/TSB power brokers?

8/26/2013 2:43:53 PM

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Such an optimistic url.

The Pacific is a big ocean, but fish move amazingly quickly, possibly crossing from Japan to United States fishing waters in less than a week. It is indeed prudent to monitor levels in seafood.



[Edited on August 26, 2013 at 5:13 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2013 5:11:57 PM

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isn't that the exact map they showed for wave heights and thus nothing related to radiation?

Not trying to downplay radiation in seafood in the least as that is a pretty crappy situation all around and extremely hard to deal with long term, but at least don't try and play that map off like it is radiation levels smc (I could be wrong but I swear that exact map was shown documenting wave levels seeing as how I was keeping up with the news fairly closely back when it happened).

8/26/2013 5:58:08 PM

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nah, dude. everybody knows you measure radiation in centimeters.

8/26/2013 6:34:33 PM

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I was just helping out the poster above me, the image came from that blogspam. Purple radiation is the scariest.

8/26/2013 7:47:02 PM

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^ gotcha, I didn't read that link yet.

8/26/2013 7:48:22 PM

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Brightly colored maps aside, I don't think people will take the danger seriously until they start selling geiger counters in the kitchenware department.

8/26/2013 7:52:59 PM

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how many diapers do you go through a week, wetting yourself at the slightest hint of non-existent danger?

8/30/2013 12:12:45 AM

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non-existant??? ask the people who died in 3 mile, chernobyl, and fukushima.

9/1/2013 12:19:45 AM

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nobody died at TMI

9/1/2013 12:30:50 AM

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Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation’

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-destroy-japan-us-290/

The article calls into questions this scientist's credibility, but:

Quote :
"'Fukushima is the most terrifying situation that I can imagine,' Suzuki said, adding that another earthquake could trigger a potentially catastrophic, nuclear disaster.

'The fourth [reactor] has been so badly damaged that the fear is if there's another earthquake of a 7 or above then that building will go and all hell breaks loose,' he said, adding that the chances of an earthquake measuring 7 or above in Japan over the next three years were over 95 percent."


[Edited on November 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM. Reason : ]

11/11/2013 11:07:52 AM

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