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7/23/2014 5:02:47 PM

Str8BacardiL
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One of my friends got an open container ticket one time for throwing a beer in the trash can.

7/23/2014 9:13:03 PM

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http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Student-Gets-212500-Settlement-After-Water-Mistaken-for-Beer--269387191.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

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" Virginia Student Gets $212,500 Settlement After Water Mistaken for Beer

A University of Virginia student who was arrested after her purchase of water was mistaken for beer will receive a $212,500 settlement with the commonwealth of Virginia.

Attorney General Mark R. Herring announced the settlement Wednesday night with Elizabeth Daly, who had filed a $40 million federal lawsuit against agents with the state Alcoholic Beverage Control.

Daly fled in terror outside a Charlottesville supermarket in April 2013 when her vehicle was swarmed by state ABC agents who mistook her just-purchased carton of sparkling water for beer.

According to the lawsuit, badges worn around the casually dressed agents' necks were not clearly visible and the defendants did not verbally identify themselves as officers. The agents banged on the vehicle and shouted demands that Daly roll down the window and that she not start the engine. Daly, who claims she was frightened, did not comply.

One agent tried to break the window with his flashlight, and after another officer pulled a gun, one of Daly's two passengers shouted that the badges were fake and implored the driver to "go, go, go," according to the lawsuit.


Daly was charged with eluding police and assaulting a police officer after her SUV grazed two of the agents. The arrest provoked a public outcry, and the charges were dropped.

Her attorney, James B. Thorsen, didn't immediately return a telephone message left at his Richmond office Thursday morning.

"My goal throughout this case has been to reach a resolution that is just and fair for all parties, including Ms. Daly, the ABC and its agents, and the Commonwealth and its taxpayers," Herring said.

"After careful consideration of the potentially significant costs of taking this case to trial, I believe we have reached such an outcome."

Herring said the settlement was not an admission of wrongdoing by any of the parties in the lawsuit."


it was an absurd amount to sue for, but these were ALE agents for fucks sake

7/31/2014 1:31:40 PM

Kurtis636
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Nice to see that charges were dropped and she won her suit, but ultimately it doesn't make a bit of difference as long as cops have qualified immunity. Until the taxpayers stop paying for this shit and the individual officers are held responsible for their gross misconduct nothing will change.

7/31/2014 4:34:42 PM

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It's (possibly) alcohol, not weapons we're talking about here. I do not understand the need to assault a vehicle like that.

8/1/2014 9:50:32 PM

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/29/charles-toll-cell-extraction_n_5630441.html

video and links in link above

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"In 2010, Charles Toll, a mentally ill inmate at a Tennessee prison, died following a controversial procedure called a cell extraction.

After Toll threw liquid on a corrections officer, his cell was ordered searched while he was handcuffed and pushed face-down on the floor. He was forcibly removed and later died. An autopsy gave the cause of death as asphyxiation.

The officers involved were never charged and prison officials have even lauded the fatal incident as a good example of what a cell extraction should look like.

Toll's family is now fighting to have his story told. An exclusive investigation by The New York Times sheds light on the deadly routine, the circumstances of Toll's death, and his family's fight for justice."

8/5/2014 6:11:26 PM

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by liquid they mean piss

8/5/2014 8:28:31 PM

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by liquid they mean piss

8/5/2014 8:28:31 PM

Str8BacardiL
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by liquid they mean piss

8/5/2014 8:28:31 PM

Str8BacardiL
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by liquid they mean piss

8/5/2014 8:28:31 PM

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by liquid they mean piss

8/5/2014 8:28:31 PM

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by liquid they mean piss

8/5/2014 8:34:22 PM

dtownral
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by liquid they mean piss

8/5/2014 8:47:14 PM

0EPII1
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oh, i guess it was ok to kill him then

8/5/2014 8:52:39 PM

thegoodlife3
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it's all happening

8/14/2014 12:23:06 AM

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http://youtu.be/-yEDMfFpKQA

This is pretty much every possible thing wrong a police force can do.

8/14/2014 1:36:35 AM

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Ferguson, Missouri:
















Good to see all that Iraq and Afghanistan equipment being put to good use.

[Edited on August 14, 2014 at 2:36 PM. Reason : ]

8/14/2014 2:12:56 PM

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i mean... these people are having Molotov cocktails thrown at them. are they supposed to show up with their dicks in their hands?

8/14/2014 2:35:11 PM

thegoodlife3
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because there is no in between

8/14/2014 2:40:01 PM

Bullet
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sure, a few molotov cocktails justifies an army shutting down a city and threatening protesters with assault rifles and armored tanks. sure. that's not instigating the crowd at all. sure.

8/14/2014 2:41:03 PM

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^^^I bet you're one of those second amendment cocksuckers that needs guns to resist gubmint oppression!


Haha, get the fuck outta here, please. At least your authoritarian views are consistent: The police have a right to defend themselves! Amirite? Eh? Amirite?

[Edited on August 14, 2014 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ]

8/14/2014 2:41:10 PM

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[Edited on August 14, 2014 at 2:45 PM. Reason : double post]

8/14/2014 2:43:21 PM

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It's like... you're the worst troll ever.

8/14/2014 3:05:27 PM

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"Haha, get the fuck outta here, please."


You should take your own advice.

I wonder if Wake County has similar war zone type equipment.

8/14/2014 3:09:28 PM

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haha.. mofo on the right has a paintball gun

8/14/2014 3:17:21 PM

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" I wonder if Wake County has similar war zone type equipment."


Wake County police officers are barely qualified to direct traffic after Hurricanes games. Last thing they need is to be given access to military equipment. I'm sure they have it, though.

8/14/2014 3:21:54 PM

Smath74
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trololol

8/14/2014 3:25:06 PM

Bullet
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If anyone gets the magazine The Week, they recently had a good article about the militarization of local police departments, the increase in use of SWAT tactics for cases that involve non-violent offenses, increase in police brutality and the deaths that result, how they obtain the military hardware (iirc a lot of it comes from the new Dept of Homeland Security), etc. It's a good, short and simple read.

[Edited on August 14, 2014 at 3:25 PM. Reason : ]

8/14/2014 3:25:40 PM

rjrumfel
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Does it mention why the ramp up?

8/14/2014 3:31:51 PM

JesusHChrist
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^^ one of the main reasons why I'm anti-military is because of the trickle-down effect of militarization. Tools that are used to kill civilians in foreign countries inevitably come back to the states to weaken public dissent.


^ because there's money to be made selling equipment via government contracts.

8/14/2014 3:37:03 PM

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^^i don't remember the article all that well, but doubt they gave a specific reason. i think a lot of it just has to do with the more recent access they have to the weapons/armor/vehicles. IT's safer for them to use it (and less safe for the citizens).

Here's a good article by Rand Paul: http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

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"Why armored vehicles in a Midwestern inner suburb? Why would cops wear camouflage gear against a terrain patterned by convenience stores and beauty parlors? Why are the authorities in Ferguson, Mo. so given to quasi-martial crowd control methods (such as bans on walking on the street) and, per the reporting of Riverfront Times, the firing of tear gas at people in their own yards? (“‘This my property!’ he shouted, prompting police to fire a tear gas canister directly at his face.”) Why would someone identifying himself as an 82nd Airborne Army veteran, observing the Ferguson police scene, comment that “We rolled lighter than that in an actual warzone”?"


[Edited on August 14, 2014 at 4:17 PM. Reason : ]

8/14/2014 4:16:30 PM

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"i mean... these people are having Molotov cocktails thrown at them. are they supposed to show up with their dicks in their hands?"


They had/have guys perched on top of trucks with DMRs. Why the fuck would snipers be needed in this situation?

The only time they should come out is there is a known armed shooter on the loose or a hostage situation or something.

8/14/2014 5:34:35 PM

Smath74
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because people are hurling molitov cocktails?

8/14/2014 5:41:48 PM

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throw a rock? boom. headshot.

8/14/2014 5:55:48 PM

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"^ because there's money to be made selling equipment via government contracts.
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And they gave a ton of money to local PDs after 9/11 to buy this stuff.

8/14/2014 6:06:58 PM

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"I wonder if Wake County has similar war zone type equipment."


BoobsR_gr8 and a few other TWW'ers was at the poker game mentioned here:http://www.salon.com/2013/07/07/%E2%80%9Cwhy_did_you_shoot_me_i_was_reading_a_book_the_new_warrior_cop_is_out_of_control/

So I'm assuming yes.

8/14/2014 6:21:39 PM

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"because people are hurling molitov cocktails?"


Oh okay. So you think people who throw firebombs near police should be executed on sight, and with no less than a DMR, because a regular assault rifle is insufficient to kill someone 75 feet away.

Good thing the police are not quite as draconian as you, and are likely using the snipers as intimidation.

8/14/2014 7:11:05 PM

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His logic, as warped as it is, it's tragically consistent. He, and others like him, are obedient authoritarians. Disproportionate responses from state actors are A-okay with him, provided that the targets of the abuse of power are a disenfranchised minority.

8/14/2014 7:21:52 PM

Smath74
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Have any of the looters been executed? I must have missed that in the news.

8/14/2014 8:14:31 PM

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wat

8/14/2014 8:20:29 PM

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"Oh okay. So you think people who throw firebombs near police should be executed on sight,"

8/14/2014 9:11:46 PM

Hiro
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It's one thing to protest. It's another thing when fuckers in Missouri are fucking looting stores and vandalizing property. What the fuck does that have to do with a court's decision? Completely barbaric. I have no problems with the government taking those people out who are using the right to protest as an excuse for personal gain/vendetta in an unrelated case.

That shit needs to be contained and those ghetto mother fuckers have no place in society.

[Edited on August 14, 2014 at 9:18 PM. Reason : .]

8/14/2014 9:16:41 PM

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in the end the tragic result will be this:

1) no cops will be charged with anything

2) no changes will be made at the police department

3) black people / college students will flip out

4) it will be sensational for a short period of time (trayvon martin)

and it will mostly be because the looting / property damage got so much attention. should protesters learn to not do that in the future? maybe. do americans tend to miss the big picture? obviously.

8/14/2014 10:04:04 PM

Dentaldamn
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People tend to exploit situations for personal gain. This would explain the looting.

8/14/2014 10:07:24 PM

carzak
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Smath please explain why people throwing molotovs warrants the presence of snipers/marksmen, because I can't even...

8/14/2014 11:17:33 PM

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http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/gty_police_ferguson_weapon_jc_140814_4x3_992.jpg

Look at the tripod-mounted son of a bitch this guy is wielding. This thing could headshot someone at 600 yards.

What the fuck is that doing there?

8/15/2014 12:38:02 AM

Kurtis636
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Well at least these cocksuckers get to play with their toys.

Some of us have been banging the police militarization drum for fucking years now. It's a shame that it takes a massive protest like this to get anyone to pay attention to it.

Yes, the protestors have on occasion gotten violent, but the police are the ones who escalated the situation by tear gassing non-violent protests and firing canisters at people in their own fenced in front yards. This happened well before there were any molotov cocktails.

I don't know why anyone is surprised, like the old adage goes... "when all you have is a hammer everything starts to look like a nail." The police only know how to operate with force, so of course their response to any kind of perceived non-compliance will be with FORCE. They've been fed this "us vs. them" propaganda for so long that they don't know how to think any differently. It's shameful.

8/15/2014 1:20:26 AM

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^

yep. the equipment needs to be scaled back. SWAT teams need to be only used for things that you need a SWAT team for. The 4th Amendment needs to be respected and abided by.

Most importantly, the whole culture needs to change in a big way, and it's pretty thoroughly ingrained. There are so many cops who think they're some sort of damned ubermensch, with contempt for the common citizen. I think that we need fewer cops, but they should be more highly paid and qualified-college degrees, etc. If we scaled back the war on drugs, we could have fewer, better cops.

8/15/2014 1:30:28 AM

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Wtf, in what countries does police look like that?

I know... Honduras, Colombia, Nigeria, oh, and the other country that fits the pattern, USA of course.

8/15/2014 1:32:40 AM

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Wtf, in what countries does police look like that?

I know... Honduras, Colombia, Nigeria, oh, and the other country that fits the pattern, USA of course.

8/15/2014 1:33:47 AM

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