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dmspack
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yeah...he's obviously trying to get another job. that was a bit much, though. but whatever.

3/7/2017 6:35:00 PM

jocristian
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A bit much? He conveniently neglected to mention that he took one of the best recruiting classes ncstate has ever had and produced the most disappointing season I can remember as a state fan and that's some stiff competition. It wasn't even the unmet expectations. It was the complete lack of effort and intensity. It was the downward trajectory and the same bad habits from the past six years manifesting. Anyone who actually watched a state game this season knows it was time for him to go. Hell just watch today's game. It was a perfect example of our putrid season.

I felt a little bad for the guy over the last couple of weeks but those comments are

3/7/2017 7:16:23 PM

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As everyone has said repeatedly if you reversed seasons 1-6 for Gott, he'd be in good shape. The trajectory of the program is right into the sewer and I've never seen a team quit on a coach like this team. See ya Gott, good luck as an assistant somewhere. Try not to fuck every coed you see.

3/7/2017 7:29:02 PM

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The thing that kills me about all the talking heads saying he's done so much here is they are forgetting these past two seasons it's not just missing the NCAA tourney but not even Making the NIT. two years with losing records with the talent we had is just not ok

3/7/2017 9:29:02 PM

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On the espn broadcast at the end they were sticking up for him saying that NC State thought he had too much roster turnover but they said this happens to every team now, blah, blah, blah. I don't keep up with every team but I find it hard to believe other ACC teams have had as much turnover as us.

3/7/2017 9:46:54 PM

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joe giglio from N&O wrote an article about this yesterday - http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/nc-state/state-now/article136792793.html.

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"In five recruiting classes between 2012 and 2016, Gottfried has added 20 players out of high school (the total does not include transfers from other Division I schools or junior colleges). Half of those 20 players have left the program early, seven via transfer and three to pursue a pro career (only T.J. Warren, drafted by the Phoenix Suns after his sophomore season in 2014, landed in the NBA).

Only Virginia Tech (11), Wake Forest (10) and Boston College (9) – all three of those programs went through a coaching change during the period – have had more players transfer out. Louisville and Clemson have had the same number of transfers over the same period.
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[Edited on March 7, 2017 at 10:18 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2017 10:18:13 PM

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they just remove all context from any argument because they're friendly with the coaches and want to get their guy's back. we saw it before with herb, we see it now with gott, listen to any other coach who gets fired with mixed success and its the same refrain

if Gott had even one good, full season instead of 4 years of instability that led into gearing up for tourney runs that even with massive upsets peaked at Conference Semi's and Sweet 16s he'd maybe have bought another year of good will. He hadn't, and as a result when the bottom fell out the last two years his tenure met its deserved end.

All of the talking heads who made fun of us for having to settle for an ESPN anchor are now upset that we want better than an ESPN anchor and took the opportunity to make the upgrade when it presented itself. When you hire a 30 year old you can forgive a bad season because there's the possibility he may learn and improve, and that if you are patient there may be a pay off in the long term. With a guy who has been coaching for 20 years? Nah, he is what he is. That's where we're at and why things are what they are. I don't begrudge the analysts' cynicism, but I can and do reject it.

3/7/2017 10:28:11 PM

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Quote :
" he took one of the best recruiting classes ncstate has ever had and produced the most disappointing season I can remember as a state fan"


Quote :
"It was the complete lack of effort and intensity"


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"I've never seen a team quit on a coach like this team"


Yup. He lost the locker room. That's why he got fired imo. Not because of this season's results.

I suspect part of the problem is he can't/didn't want to enforce discipline.

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" With a guy who has been coaching for 20 years? Nah, he is what he is. That's where we're at and why things are what they are"


Do you dispute that he has elevated our program???

3/7/2017 11:37:26 PM

Fry
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yeah he elevated the program for a few years

do you dispute that he took it back to the basement for the last two seasons and shows no real sign of it recovering anytime soon? because that's why the dude got canned.

3/8/2017 10:17:12 AM

GingaNinja
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erhmahgerd isn't it shocking no one is lining up to hire this genius coach who went to 4 NCAAs in 6 years what a travesty

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ]

3/22/2017 12:03:15 AM

dmspack
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it's still early...but yeah...same thing when the fans were admonished by the media for not appreciating Herb more. he ultimately failed at ASU and is now coaching at mighty Santa Clara. he doesn't really have the track record of a good coach like we were all told he was when he left here.

3/22/2017 7:51:18 AM

themayor
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That was only going to happen with him picking up some W's at the end of the season, after he was fired & going some distance in the ACC championship.

3/22/2017 8:56:44 AM

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