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kdogg(c)
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Just realized there wasn't one.

Did anyone believe they ever had credibility to begin with?

4/8/2011 4:26:30 PM

EuroTitToss
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L O L

4/8/2011 4:27:20 PM

Chance
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What is the Democrat party?

4/8/2011 4:30:39 PM

roddy
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Dems have won this round already....the poor poor military families.......not being paid......and in order to get paid the CR defunds Planned Parenthood, which helps with STD testing and cancer screening for women......cue 2012 campaign commercials......

4/8/2011 4:43:41 PM

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English skillzzz

4/8/2011 5:59:32 PM

roddy
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GOP blinked, CNN reporting potential deal, one week CR will be passed and no riders on deal....or at least the two riders that were the issue.

4/8/2011 8:25:23 PM

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I think over the next couple of months we are going to learn about some ridiculous shit the federal government pays for.

4/8/2011 8:29:08 PM

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when it comes to tax cuts to the wealthy the dems bend over and take it up the ass but when it comes to funding for planned parenthood O HELL NAW LET THE GOV SHUTDOWN.

4/8/2011 8:30:00 PM

aaronburro
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can Planned Parenthood not make it on its own? If people think it is so fucking important, why don't they give their OWN money to it directly, instead of forcing other people to do so via the gov't. Fuck those people

4/8/2011 8:38:01 PM

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People created the government to give money to it. It makes no sense for every person to give their money to the hundreds or more things they care about individually. So a LONG time ago, people decided it’d make more sense to have a governing body handle maintenance of certain things in society, one of which is making sure poor or uneducated people have access to parenthood counseling. From this desire, Planned Parenthood was born (no put intended).

Now, the republicans are painting planned parenthood as an abortion monster that just cranks out abortions all day, so that they can attack it and garner support for their base. And it appears aaronburro is gullible enough to succumb to this strategy.

4/8/2011 8:48:17 PM

aaronburro
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so, basically, people don't want to support it with their own money. got it

4/8/2011 8:51:06 PM

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Funniest part of the whole thing is the law the republicans state they want already exists. They say they don't want tax payers funding abortions but there is already a law that specifically prohibits that.

Republicans just want to get rid of planned parenthood so they cannot do abortions even without taxpayer funding.

4/8/2011 8:52:49 PM

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I don’t know how you got that from that… but whether you understand it or not doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things I guess.

4/8/2011 8:53:23 PM

aaronburro
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^^ you do realize that every dollar the gov't gives to PP is another dollar PP doesn't have to come up with in order to murder babies, right? It doesn't matter which magical pot I put the money into, it's all still funding the whole organization.

^ again, if people think it is important, then they should be able to raise the money on their own. Seems that passing the money through an inefficient middleman like the gov't is the worst way to accomplish their goal.

4/8/2011 8:56:19 PM

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With that logic, funding wouldn't be going to most organizations.

4/8/2011 8:58:16 PM

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^^ where are you getting your argument from? Repeating a clumsy, obviously uninformed statement “rawr people should give their OWN money for it RAWR” just paints the image in my mind of a stereotypical poor, uneducated conservative voter.

PP gets ~70% of their funding from non-government sources already. Of their overall budget, more that 98% of it is spent on non-abortion related health counseling and medical services.

So clearly people do and are giving their own money to it.

And on top of this, you don’t see it as important for young or poor people about to embark on parenthood to have a good, accessible resource to turn to? Is this not something a government should support?

[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 9:02 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2011 9:02:15 PM

kdogg(c)
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True...we want to teach kids "first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."

Well I would say your values and morals can be summed up with that statement alone, Mr. President.

But we digress.

4/8/2011 10:13:36 PM

aaronburro
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"With that logic, funding wouldn't be going to most organizations."

and I'd probably be fine with that.

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"where are you getting your argument from?"

ummm, reality?

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"PP gets ~70% of their funding from non-government sources already."

Sounds like the extra 30% should be no problem, then. Let them compete on their own merits.

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"And on top of this, you don’t see it as important for young or poor people about to embark on parenthood to have a good, accessible resource to turn to?"

I'm sure it is a nice thing to have. Why don't you write a check right now and support it directly.


^ didn't you know? A baby is a punishment

4/8/2011 10:29:32 PM

kdogg(c)
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According to Planned Parenthood, they (not another organization, but PP) performed 332,278 abortions in 2009.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf

That's 332,278 of these:



God Bless America, eh?

4/8/2011 10:29:39 PM

aaronburro
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don't forget these:

and these:







nothing more than a choice here...

4/8/2011 10:33:51 PM

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you should rot in hell you motherfucker

4/8/2011 11:11:54 PM

aaronburro
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why, for showing you what you support? it's nothing more than a choice, right>?

[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2011 11:28:51 PM

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I nor nobody in their right mind supports that.

[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 11:58 PM. Reason : j]

4/8/2011 11:57:45 PM

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Shouldn't God be the judge of these women and doctors?

4/9/2011 12:00:58 AM

aaronburro
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oh, He will be.

4/9/2011 12:22:05 AM

walkmanfades
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then step the fuck back

4/9/2011 12:30:54 AM

roddy
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We need to set up a countdown clock for reaching the debt ceiling....maybe a default coutdown clock? GOP saying more cuts will be needed to raise it.....I guess they want to play a game of chicken, again.....


Also, interesting, there were not 218 GOP votes for the CR, dems helped pass it.

4/9/2011 1:46:39 AM

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do aborted cell clumps go to heaven or hell?

4/9/2011 9:55:18 AM

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"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State.

-Edward Abbey-

"

4/9/2011 10:23:38 AM

OopsPowSrprs
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The federal government already is prohibited from funding abortions through the Hyde Amendment, so I'm not sure what the Republicans are up in arms about. I guess they just don't like condoms and family planning services.

4/9/2011 4:51:49 PM

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"why, for showing you what you support? it's nothing more than a choice, right>?"


This is stupid logic. I doubt you'd have such a cavalier approach to showing the mangled remains of armed service men and women, or the charred bodies of executed serial killers. You support war and execution, right? If the conversation shifts to gay marriage (as it always does with republicans after abortion) are you gonna google search dudes having sex in order to prove your point?

4/9/2011 5:21:32 PM

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I support people, who have appendicitis, getting appendectomies. That doesn't mean I want to look at pictures of it.

4/9/2011 11:29:01 PM

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"oh, He will be."


LOL! You believe in God. No wonder you're a fucking idiot.

4/9/2011 11:37:01 PM

aaronburro
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"I nor nobody in their right mind supports that."

clearly somebody does, cause they are fuckin doin it.

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"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State.

-Edward Abbey-"

so what do we say about the lack of a man's right to choose? btw, it's not "compulsory maternity." A woman always has the right to use other forms of birth control. Or, she can just shut her damn legs. Only a liberal would say that a person is "forced to do something" when they willingly make a fucking choice that leads to a certain possible consequence.

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"The federal government already is prohibited from funding abortions through the Hyde Amendment, so I'm not sure what the Republicans are up in arms about. I guess they just don't like condoms and family planning services."

Awww look. This little guy here thinks that this money goes in a magical pot that is magically separate from all of the other money PP has.

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"I doubt you'd have such a cavalier approach to showing the mangled remains of armed service men and women, or the charred bodies of executed serial killers."

not really. fire em up!

4/10/2011 11:28:27 PM

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posting pictures of mangled aborted fetuses, way to show everyone how to stay classy aaronburro!

4/10/2011 11:48:48 PM

aaronburro
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you know how i do

4/11/2011 12:02:54 AM

OopsPowSrprs
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"Awww look. This little guy here thinks that this money goes in a magical pot that is magically separate from all of the other money PP has."


First of all, you are a condescending jackass and one of those aborted fetuses should have been you.

Now that that's out of the way, financial accounting is actually what keeps the money separate, and it's very real. The only thing magical in this thread is your judging sky daddy.

4/11/2011 12:04:38 AM

aaronburro
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yes. because there really is a magical pot there. And every dollar that they get from the government is one less dollar they have to raise via other sources. Again, there is no real separation.

4/11/2011 12:10:34 AM

Kris
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"you know how i do"


I think you make it obvious, you critize people for doing slightly tasteless things while at the same time doing things that are in far much worse taste.

4/11/2011 10:40:55 AM

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"because there really is a magical pot there"


...and with an offhand click of the 'Post Reply!' button, aaronburro completely disregards standard accounting practices used by companies and organizations around the world.

4/11/2011 8:51:11 PM

aaronburro
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yes. and with a click of the "Post Reply" button, you also ignore the fact that every federal dollar they get from the gov't is one less dollar they have to raise elsewhere. Thus the notion of magical pots.

4/11/2011 11:05:25 PM

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I don't really see what's so hard to grasp about aaronburro's statement on PP finances.

If I give you $5 but tell you not to spend it on food, then you'll take $5 of your own money to spend on food and replace your empty wallet with that $5.

4/11/2011 11:18:39 PM

aaronburro
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^ bingo

4/11/2011 11:24:31 PM

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It's not a hard concept for me to understand, but the fact that such things are standard practice for nearly every organization with a budget and rules about how they spend money (e.g. pretty much all businesses, the US government, etc.) does seem difficult for others to grasp. Organizations have been successfully separating abortion-related funds since 1976.

This whole thing ignores the fact that abortions are a very small part of what Planned Parenthood does. Medical services, consuling, education, and contraceptives provided by Planned Parenthood probably does more to reduce the number of abortions in this country than removing funding or banning all aborptions ever could. Pretending abortion doesn't exist isn't going to make it so.

Just like our drug policies, we get so wrappped up in demonizing and punishing those involved that the underlying issues and problems that put people in the position of choosing/not choosing an abortion remain completely unaddressed. In the end, nobody gets what they want and nobody gets what they need.

(except politicians who can continue to exploit the issue for political gain)

4/12/2011 6:34:46 AM

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^Well put!

4/12/2011 10:06:36 AM

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Democrats are craven weaklings.

4/12/2011 6:55:01 PM

aaronburro
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"Organizations have been successfully separating abortion-related funds since 1976."

yes, that magic pot is very successful!

4/12/2011 7:05:03 PM

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I'm going to channel my inner hooksaw:



[Edited on April 12, 2011 at 7:13 PM. Reason : ]

4/12/2011 7:13:20 PM

aaronburro
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what part of "if I give you 5 bux and tell you not to spend it on food and you then take 5 bux from your wallet and go to McD's and put that 5 i gave you in your wallet" doesn't make sense to you? it's a fucking shell-game. if it goes to that company, it goes to everything that company does. period. end of story.

[Edited on April 12, 2011 at 7:14 PM. Reason : ]

4/12/2011 7:14:13 PM

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What part of basic accounting doesn't make sense to you?

4/12/2011 7:15:03 PM

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