I get a more updated status at https://h20497.www2.hp.com/os/public.tcl?po=&orderno=&webno=4395138&attn=&delvno=&reqField=po_date&podate=8%2F21%2F11&display.x=0&display.y=0

8/28/2011 2:34:53 PM

Now that CM7 is booting on the TouchPad... I feel my chances have diminished even more to get one. Boo.

http://rootzwiki.com/content.php?r=234-EXCLUSIVE-CyanogenMod-7-On-the-HP-TouchPad

[Edited on August 29, 2011 at 8:47 AM. Reason : link]

8/29/2011 8:47:10 AM

Damn that guy's voice is annoying. Looks like they still have a good bit of work ahead of them. It'd be nice if they could somehow create an android player similar to what RIM is doing. The only real problem is the lack of apps and not really sure I want a full android port (at least not Gingerbread anyways).

8/29/2011 9:12:31 AM

http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2011/08/tablet-computers?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/realitydawns

Quote :

"LAST week’s bombshell announcement by Hewlett-Packard that it was hiving off its personal-computer business—and, in particular, would cease making tablet computers and mobile phones forthwith—was greeted with shock and horror, plus a 20% plunge in share price. Canny investors promptly snapped up the depressed stock, realising it was the smartest move HP has made in years. More than anything else, the announcement showed that the firm had finally seen the light about the tablet market—namely, that there is no such thing. What exists instead is a rip-roaring market for iPads. Tablets based on Google’s Android, Hewlett-Packard’s webOS, Microsoft’s Windows, and Research In Motion’s BlackBerry operating systems—have failed dismally to capture consumers’ hearts and minds the way Apple has with its iconic iPad. You only have to look at the numbers. Apple’s share of the tablet market is over 61% and growing, while all the Android tablets together make up barely 30% and are being squeezed. According to Strategy Analytics of Newton, Massachusetts, Windows tablets account for 4.6% and Research in Motion’s 3.3%. Sooner or later, the rest of the iPad wannabees are going to realise that, just because Apple has a runaway success on its hands, they cannot charge Apple prices for their hastily developed me-too products and expect consumers to clamour for them. It is not that Android tablets are technically inferior. Many more than match the iPad’s specification—though none feels quite as slim and svelte to the touch or as pleasing to the eye. Nor do any of the pretenders work as instantly and instinctively when taken out of the box. Add the classy consumer experience offered by Apple Stores, and the iPad’s sales proposition becomes irresistible. But the ultimate killer feature that Android and other tablets have failed to replicate is the care Apple took from the start to ensure enough iPhone applications were available that took full advantage of the iPad’s 9.7-inch screen. Today, over 90,000 of the 475,000 applications available online from Apple’s App Store fully exploit the much larger screen size. By contrast, only a paltry 300 or so of the nearly 300,000 apps for Android phones have been fully optimised for the Honeycomb version of the Android operating system developed for tablets—though many of the rest scale up with varying degrees of success. Overall, the difference between Apple and the rest is that, with the iPad (as with the iPod and iPhone before it), Apple invented a whole new product category—one that seamlessly integrates the company’s own hardware with its own means of delivering applications and content. All that tablet-makers like Acer, Asustek, Lenovo, Hewlett-Packard, Research In Motion, Samsung and Toshiba did was to squeeze a netbook computer into a thinner case by dispensing with the cover, keyboard and hard-drive. That made them, at best, suppliers of niche hardware. And yet, such is the hubris, they expect customers to pay Apple prices for their half-baked offerings. Take Hewlett-Packard’s now defunct TouchPad. This was priced initially at $499 for the basic 16 gigabyte version—the same starting price as the iPad. When there were few takers for the TouchPad because it was over-weight, under-developed and lacked key features like a rear-facing camera, the price was lowered to $399. And still the TouchPad failed to kindle interest among consumers. But when, last week, HP slashed the price to $99 to liquidate its unsold stock as it quit the business, TouchPads flew off the shelves faster than iPads have ever done. By some reckoning, three months supply disappeared in a day. What this sorry episode makes incandescently clear is that the price point for basic iPad wannabees is somewhat more than $99 but a good deal less than $399. When better equipped (though bulkier) netbooks can be had for $250, tablet-makers need to set their sights below $200. There is just one problem: the cost of the components currently used comes to more than that. According to the market research firm iSuppli, the basic TouchPad cost Hewlett-Packard $306 to build. Put that down to HP’s higher costs and lower volumes. By contrast, Apple designs its own iPad processors, its own software, its own batteries and its own enclosures—and has huge advantages of scale when sourcing its components from China and elsewhere. With a retail price of $499, the basic iPad 2 is believed to cost around $265 to build. So, how come Barnes & Noble can sell its Nook Color—an Android tablet masquerading as an e-book reader—for $249? Two factors are at work here. One is that the Nook Color has a more limited specification than most Android tablets on the market today. For instance, it has no front- and rear-facing cameras, no gyroscope, no GPS, no G3 wireless connection (only WiFi). It also has less internal memory, a seven-inch touch screen instead of the more usual ten-inch one, and relies on an older, less demanding version (Eclair) of the Android operating system. Skimping on components has probably saved $50 or more. The other reason is that Barnes & Noble is more interested in selling books and magazines than making fat profits from gizmos. The Nook is strategically important to the company’s future, having helped it grab more than 20% of the burgeoning e-book business in less than two years. Selling only through its own stores and online, the Nook’s retail markup is thought to be significantly less than the 50% on tablets generally. Interestingly, the Nook Color also provides clues to what Android tablet-makers will have to do if they are to survive and thrive. The device has no more bells and whistles than necessary, and it does the job it was designed to do extremely well. The screen, in particular, is exemplary. Barnes & Noble has promised to unleash more of the Nook’s hidden smarts in future releases. Meanwhile, hackers have embraced the Nook, “rooting” its underlying Linux software (equivalent to “jail-breaking” an iPhone) so it can run many more applications from Google’s online app store and elsewhere. Plug-in memory cards loaded with the necessary software are now available on the web for $35 and up, Installed in seconds, these let the device boot either as a Barnes & Noble e-book reader or as a cheap and powerful Android tablet. Some owners are rooting their Nooks so they can use them as Kindle readers as well. Such developments have not gone unnoticed at Amazon.com. The Kindle-maker is expected to release a “game-changing” tablet this autumn, featuring the latest Android (Honeycomb) operating system with a seven-inch touch screen and a price widely rumoured to be under $300. While the actual specification has yet to be made public, the new Amazon tablet will doubtless offer all the features, and more, of a rooted Nook. Given the popularity of Amazon’s existing Kindle, analysts believe the new device will quickly outsell all other Android tablets on the market, including Samsung’s Galaxy Tab. And as the world’s biggest online retailer, delivering downloads of movies, music and games as well as books, Amazon will be in a strong position to challenge Apple’s awesome combination of iPad, iTunes and App Store. Amazon has already shown that it can beat both Apple and Google to the punch by offering to store customers’ music collections in "lockers" in the cloud. Users can then access their tunes from any computer or Android device while on the move. Amazon’s “Cloud Drive” provides users with five gigabytes of storage for free. All together, that sounds like a pretty nifty way of building an Amazon-based ecosystem—and locking customers into it. Steve Jobs, Apple's charismatic former boss and architect of its remarkable self-supporting ecosystem, should be more than a little concerned."

8/29/2011 9:12:51 AM

Quote :

"But the ultimate killer feature that Android and other tablets have failed to replicate is the care Apple took from the start to ensure enough iPhone applications were available that took full advantage of the iPad’s 9.7-inch screen. "

Author has never used an iPad.

8/29/2011 9:26:45 AM

lol. Surprised my order hasn't been cancelled then.

http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/The-Next-Bench-Blog/Answering-Your-Questions-Part-2/ba-p/68749

Quote :

"Q: I placed my order online with HP’s SMB Store. How do I confirm that it was received? For orders placed after 4am CT on Monday 22nd August, US SMB had already sold out of HP TouchPad. We are unable to fulfill these orders and they have been cancelled. If you saw a reserve hold for the amount of your order on your credit card, no actual charges have been made and this reserve hold will be released now that the order has been cancelled. If you placed an order prior to 4am CT Monday, August 22, we are working through the large volume of orders, verifying payment details and seeking to source inventory for fulfillment. This process is taking longer than first anticipated. At this time, we cannot guarantee supply to all these orders but are working to supply as many orders as possible. If you saw a reserve hold for the amount of your order on your credit card and your order cannot be fulfilled, no actual charges have been made, and this reserve hold will be released if the order is cancelled."

8/29/2011 9:28:24 AM

^ I too used the backdoor link and am yet to see my order actually get cancelled (i.e. removed from the system/showing cancelled). I get a shipping date instead which now has my hopes up that HP is actually going to ship me something when, in reality, they are just stringing me along.

On another note...

Quote :

"Amazon has already shown that it can beat both Apple and Google to the punch by offering to store customers’ music collections in "lockers" in the cloud. "

His credibility goes out the window when he doesn't know that Amazon=Google.



[Edited on August 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ]

8/29/2011 3:39:54 PM

Document editing has arrived!

http://www.precentral.net/quickoffice-hd-document-editing-now-your-hp-touchpad-1

8/29/2011 4:11:56 PM

My rep at Provantage just ordered 6 for me. Keep your eyes open on their site over the next day or two. Once they get to the warehouse they will probably post.

8/29/2011 4:15:21 PM

Was just wondering about that since I had read it was coming last week. Guess I'll update it when I get home.

8/29/2011 4:15:52 PM

Quote :

"His credibility goes out the window when he doesn't know that Amazon=Google."

is this true?

8/29/2011 4:27:05 PM

^ I have no clue WTF he is talking about....

8/29/2011 5:08:14 PM

so anyone gotten a second one that they don't want?

8/29/2011 7:16:45 PM

back of the line, buddy

8/29/2011 7:40:35 PM

lol. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

8/29/2011 7:44:56 PM

i still dont know whether HP actually has an order on file for me

8/29/2011 8:00:14 PM

hmm...

http://www.precentral.net/samsung-hires-formed-hp-pc-exec-said-be-eying-webos-purchase

Quote :

"In an effort to bolster their consumer PC business, Samsung has hired former HP Personal Systems Group marketing VP Raymond Wah. This comes as Samsung has denied rumors that they were considering making a purchase of HP’s maybe-to-be-spun-off PC business. Instead, Samsung is looking to the future and to an arena where they’ve already had plenty of success: mobile. While Samsung has built a growing smartphone empire off Android (with a smattering of Windows Phone), their tablets haven’t exactly taken off. And with Microsoft shacking up with Nokia and Google buying Motorola, Samsung’s got to be looking for a way to differentiate themselves. And that’s where webOS comes in. According to Digitimes (always a fun but questionable source), Samsung is giving consideration to purchasing – not licensing – webOS from HP. Samsung has been exploring their own OS for some time, and has achieved some success with their home-cooked Bada OS in Asia, but its traction elsewhere has been less than great. Could Samsung be a possible third home for webOS after Palm failed and HP gave up? Predictably, neither HP nor Samsung has offered comment on the issue."

8/29/2011 8:06:43 PM

i bought one during the firesale

then i listed it on ebay after playing with it for a day because of the lack of apps.

i canceled it when i heard of the efforts to get it using Android

but i've just relisted it because android is still gonna suck on it - no honeycomb means it'll be a big phone sized screen. and apps in webOS are very lacking.

8/30/2011 7:17:41 AM

pending charge reappeared, I think that means they intend to ship.

8/30/2011 8:45:42 AM

^ remember seeing a post somewhere that it would disappear and reappear and didn't really mean anything.

^^ yeah, the app catalog is awful but for $160 I really can't complain. Aside from the quirky web browser login and page refresh issues, everything works great. A fully functional Android port would be nice but don't think I want to trade WebOS for a glorified phone OS even if it's CM-based. If someone could come up with an android player to run inside of webOS, they'd make $texas.

also looks like the MHC Best Buy finally sold out or updated its inventory numbers.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/hp-touchpad-will-receive-ota-udpate-for-added-functionality/

Quote :

"HP may have abandoned the TouchPad, but that apparently won't stop the company from issuing a post-mortem OTA update for its webOS tablet. Yesterday, an HP spokesperson confirmed to CNET that "HP TouchPad owners can look forward to an over-the-air update that will enhance the platform and add functionality and a growing applications catalog." The rep didn't offer any specifics, but reaffirmed that HP remains "fully committed to the ongoing support and service of customers who purchased webOS devices." The news comes on the heels of a Quickoffice HD update that dropped yesterday, and at a time when TouchPads are selling like hotcakes -- which probably explains HP's decision to issue a tweak. Indeed, the company went on to say that it's seen "huge spikes in activations and between 3-5X downloads of apps," since the TouchPad fire sale first launched."

8/30/2011 8:52:15 AM

You can play with Ubuntu in the meantime:

http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/292457-tutorial-how-get-ubuntu-touchpad.html

8/30/2011 9:24:07 AM

I wonder if Silverlight works on that since it's Ubuntu. That'd make this such a steal at 150 for the 32gb model.

8/30/2011 11:11:39 AM

Just got an email from HP stating that it would be a couple of weeks before they would have a limited qty.

8/30/2011 12:16:43 PM

Quote :

" Dear Customer, Thank you for your interest in the HP TouchPad and webOS. The overwhelming demand for this product in recent days has made it difficult to fulfill your request at the present time, and we are working to make more available as soon as possible. While we do not yet have specific details, we know it will be at least a few weeks before we have a limited quantity available again. We will keep you informed as we have more specifics that we can communicate, and we encourage you to join the conversation here for the latest information. In light of this and other recent HP news, we want you to know that we remain committed to you. We will continue to honor our warranties now and in the future. We will continue delivering products that make a difference in our life and we will continue to provide the best possible service to you every day. We are grateful for your patience and loyalty and to show our gratitude, we are offering you an exclusive one-time opportunity to save an additional amount on all of our products, valid through the end of the day tomorrow, Wednesday, August 31, 2011. You'll save 25% off all printers, ink, HP accessories, and PCs starting at or above $599."

8/30/2011 12:21:03 PM

they didnt even bother to email me

bastards

8/30/2011 12:29:31 PM

maybe your order is being filled then.

8/30/2011 1:09:53 PM

looks like those emails only went out to those who signed up for alerts on when more touchpads would be available.

http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/The-Next-Bench-Blog/More-TouchPads-on-the-Way/ba-p/68749

Quote :

"Despite announcing an end to manufacturing webOS hardware, we have decided to produce one last run of TouchPads to meet unfulfilled demand. We don’t know exactly when these units will be available or how many we’ll get, and we can’t promise we’ll have enough for everyone. We do know that it will be at least a few weeks before you can purchase. See more information in the updated FAQs below. Q: When is HP getting more HP TouchPads? One week, two weeks, a month? A limited supply are coming and it will be a few weeks before they are available. As we know more about how, when, and where TouchPads will be available, we will communicate that here and through email to those who requested notification. We can tell you that HP’s Small and Medium Business team has sold out of HP TouchPads and will not have more inventory. Q: Can you comment on whether HP had to manufacture more to meet the recent demand? HP will be manufacturing a limited quantity of TouchPads with webOS during our fourth fiscal quarter 2011, which ends October 31. Q: Will HP continue to make more TouchPads with webOS to meet the demand? HP is discontinuing the development of webOS devices and is winding down device operations within our fourth fiscal quarter 2011. Q: Will the notification/alert emails go out all at once so everyone has a fair shot? All those who requested notification have been notified today that more are coming in the future, and will be notified again when more specifics are known."

8/30/2011 1:54:40 PM

8/30/2011 2:25:40 PM

I'm going to lol if you still don't get one.

8/30/2011 2:27:55 PM

Quote :

"Despite announcing an end to manufacturing webOS hardware, we have decided to produce one last run of TouchPads to meet unfulfilled demand."

this sounds stupid as hell on their part, assuming they're going to sell them for the same low price

doesn't it cost $300 to manufacture them?

i guess maybe they already have the raw materials bought and cant use most of it on anything else

8/30/2011 2:54:48 PM

^yeah.... making them and selling them for 100 is probably cheaper than scrapping the parts that are unused.

i came in here to post this:

http://jobview.monster.com/Product-Line-Manager-Touchpad-Job-Sunnyvale-CA-102062585.aspx?fwr=true



[Edited on August 30, 2011 at 3:54 PM. Reason : .]

8/30/2011 3:53:50 PM

yeah, my guess is their parts suppliers weren't too happy so they're like fuck it, lets kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Also I am finding it almost impossible to play Angry Birds on my Thunderbolt after playing it on the Touchpad. Everything just seems so small.

8/30/2011 4:40:27 PM

Quote :

"Hi! Your touchpads should arrive tomorrow! The UPS tracking number is"

Quote :

"Excellent thanks! Are you going to open it up to the masses? How big was your delivery? "

Quote :

"Actually, we are all sold out. We never even put the items on our website. Our purchasing manager is trying to get more, but we don’t think there will be any more available! Thank you!"

I tried guys

I MIGHT have one extra 32GB that I could let go for cost + shipping. I'll know by the end of the week. I'm going to try and get at least one into a developers hands and 4 of them are spoken for.

8/30/2011 4:46:50 PM

Quote :

"I get a more updated status at https://h20497.www2.hp.com/os/public.tcl?po=&orderno=&webno=4395138&attn=&delvno=&reqField=po_date&podate=8%2F21%2F11&display.x=0&display.y=0"

hey bobster, did you get your shipment today? my status says delivery date 8/30 as well, but i am sitting here with no touchpad

8/30/2011 5:41:16 PM

This was in today's Southern Wake newspaper...lol

8/30/2011 7:56:52 PM

^^ mine has a delivery date of today but they said you can't trust those dates and unless it has shipped for the status, you're in touchpad hell.

^ yeah, they had that planned before the firesale. Some have been able to get a 16GB touchpad + case and 25% off for like 150. Others were told they could only bundle it with a laptop and pay out the ass. Hhgregg has it listed in their circular this week for $449/$549 but they took down the webpages for them.

8/30/2011 8:06:33 PM

I just made $100 by flipping the Touchpad from the firesale...w00t...

8/30/2011 11:22:50 PM

Yeah, I'm hoping this comes before I leave for Germany in 2 weeks for 2 weeks.

8/30/2011 11:32:39 PM

^^^^
Well, it looks like Lee Fowler found a new job at least.

8/30/2011 11:54:34 PM

got mine Friday, neat but like our ipad2 better. $150 was a fair price would have been returning at retail.

8/31/2011 12:52:49 AM

Anyone else need one of the HP Touchpad folio cases before I return this one? Ordered one from Amazon before I realized the best buy here had them in stock and was too late to cancel the shipment.

8/31/2011 8:32:50 AM

what case is it? i'll be in raleigh over the weekend and i need one

8/31/2011 8:55:36 AM

http://www.hp.com/united-states/webos/us/en/tablet/touchpad-accessories.html

8/31/2011 9:00:23 AM

my status was changed today, do the delivery date of today. i'll believe it when i see it.

8/31/2011 9:56:05 AM

this made it a reality to own a touchpad, and now i can't find one

8/31/2011 10:00:26 AM

Coworkers got wind of my purchase. Getting like 9485948545 texts.

8/31/2011 4:33:26 PM

so you're the asshole that bought all the touchpads

8/31/2011 5:15:29 PM

*Shrug* I asked the sales rep if they had any cases and got lucky. I don't think they ever went public. If she gets another shipment I might just order 10.

BigMan has dibs if I end up with an extra 32, but things are looking grim.

8/31/2011 5:23:20 PM

8/31/2011 6:00:59 PM

Limit 1 per customer : multiple quantities. Does not compute.

8/31/2011 6:02:19 PM