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shoot
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No offer yet.
Needs more patience.

8/5/2012 11:39:32 PM

specialkay
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Step 1: Learn English.

8/6/2012 8:10:05 AM

shoot
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Of course I need to enhance my communication skills. As an international student, I learnt writing and reading, but not speaking.

8/6/2012 8:13:11 AM

specialkay
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" As an international student, I learnt writing and reading"


no you have not "learnt" how to write at all. Your posts are gibberish and barely readable. Just go back, if you havent found a job or learned how to write and speak english in 4 years, nobody wants you here.

8/6/2012 10:44:43 AM

shoot
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You hate foreigners. I can understand. It's common in NC.

8/6/2012 11:05:10 AM

lewoods
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No, she dislikes lazy people. You've been unemployed for four years and haven't taken the time to take English classes. That's lazy.

8/6/2012 11:34:15 AM

shoot
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You hate me too, I know. It's because of you foreigner haters making international talents can't stay in US.
You guys should be out of US, not us. You guys are actually lazy. Doing nothing, and remain in US.
I have a GRE for 1220+4 and Tofel for 610+4.5. I don't need English class. I just need more connections.




[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 11:47 AM. Reason : add another note]

8/6/2012 11:36:28 AM

spydyrwyr
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So I guess you're not counting "Professional Troll" as a job?

8/6/2012 11:39:54 AM

shoot
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I'm not a troll. Some fucking idiots forbid me.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM. Reason : ;]

8/6/2012 11:43:53 AM

wolfpackgrrr
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Honestly TOEFL scores don't mean a whole lot. I've worked with plenty of people that had good TOEFL scores that were terrible at day-to-day English. Just like there's plenty of people out there that score well on the SAT but are dumb as a brick when it comes to common sense stuff.

8/6/2012 12:19:29 PM

shoot
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I know. But GRE means something.
I'm on average of TSE also, the oral test.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 12:35 PM. Reason : add another note]

8/6/2012 12:34:59 PM

David0603
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"Step 1: Learn English."


Agreed, and stop accusing people of being racist/hating foreigners every time constructive criticism is offered.

8/6/2012 1:10:57 PM

shoot
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You suggest every foreigners to have the same English level as you huh? I can say my English is pretty good among them. Many guys from Africa and Asia have heavy accents. Even some from Europe.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 1:20 PM. Reason : make it clear]

8/6/2012 1:20:30 PM

spydyrwyr
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OK, since you're "not troll and someone forbid you," I'll bite...

Accents are one thing, but basic syntax formation and written communication are entirely different. In today's business environment, for most entry and mid level jobs with the exception of outside sales, written communication skills are paramount.

There's a give and take in most situations. If your language skills are lacking, then you'll have to excel in other areas in order to differentiate yourself from the rest of the huge pool of applicants any given employer has to choose from. If you're only as good or just slightly better than someone who has much better communication skills than you, then it's a pretty simple choice for an employer, wouldn't you agree?

Another bit of advice, take whatever you can get, even if you feel it's "beneath you." It's a cliche, but it's typically true that it's much easier to find a job when you have a job. You can take experiences from any employment opportunity and speak to them in an interview.

Plus, employers want to see someone who is hard working with a strong work ethic. I'd much rather hire someone that has been working part or full time at a job below their qualifications than Cousin Eddie who is holding out for a management position since he and Catherine sent all that money to the TV preacher. (that last line is a joke, a movie reference).

8/6/2012 1:45:19 PM

specialkay
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It is becoming more and more clear that you cant get a job because you are thick headed and stupid. This is an online forum and you are trying to bring up accents and verbal communication. Nobody gives a damn about your test scores. You cant type well formed sentences in English, how do you expect to succeed in a culture that speaks and writes in English?

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 2:03 PM. Reason : if you are a troll, i applaud your persistence ]

8/6/2012 2:03:34 PM

shoot
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^^I hung around in school for another fucking 4 yrs is because I didn't know if I should stay in academic area. After four years, I find out I don't have passion to become a faculty and want to switch to a very different field--sports industry.
Becoming a faculty is many Chinese students' goal.

^ Do you never make mistakes on grammar? BTW: I don't like your snobbish style of speaking. Who do you think you are? Now US is ruled by an african american and his black wife. Not you arrogant white people.
Also the secretary of the United Nations is an asian guy.



[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM. Reason : grammar]

8/6/2012 2:04:00 PM

specialkay
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"^ Do you never make mistakes on grammar?"


Do you ever use correct grammar? Or write in complete sentences?

Those who can, do; those who can't teach. and apparently you couldn't cut it in academia, so I guess you cant do or teach.

dumbass, when is your visa up?

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM. Reason : a]

8/6/2012 2:12:36 PM

shoot
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Nonsense. I correct every typo I make. Some are still there, but it's because of the system. The system won't allow people to make changes on the posts after 30 mins they post.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 2:18 PM. Reason : make it clear]

8/6/2012 2:15:00 PM

David0603
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Stop saying make it clear. It's already quite clear for anyone with basic English comprehension skills.

8/6/2012 2:26:15 PM

specialkay
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I didnt ask if you correct your grammar you jackass, i asked if you ever use correct grammar. You cant even grasp basic English in the written form, no wonder you cant get a job.

When does your visa run out?

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM. Reason : even if you are a troll, this is fun]

8/6/2012 2:29:54 PM

shoot
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It's non of your business. You want to ask Washington to stop my visa? LOL

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 2:33 PM. Reason : add another note]

8/6/2012 2:32:34 PM

lewoods
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I have seen elementary school students with better grammar, and they'll work for a lot less.

8/6/2012 2:36:15 PM

shoot
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What do you mean "work for a lot less"?

You mean "work a lot less"? Do you have good grammar skill?

8/6/2012 2:38:12 PM

CassTheSass
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"I know. But GRE means something. "


GRE scores mean nothing unless you want to go to grad school.

i work for a large company in RTP and we've hired like crazy, especially foreign-born folks here locally so there has to be more to the story as to the reason why you have been job hunting for 4 years and you can't get hired.

8/6/2012 2:41:06 PM

shoot
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Like I said, I didn't fully prepare my interviews b/c I dunno if I want to stay in school or not.

8/6/2012 2:43:15 PM

CassTheSass
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i like how you go back and forth with really great grammar and not so great grammar

but still i can understand you didn't prepare for maybe 1 or 2 interviews but you said you've been on about 20. i would think this is a lesson learned - if you really wanted the job and wanted to make money you would wise up and prepare for the interview.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM. Reason : now my grammar isnt great.]

8/6/2012 2:45:47 PM

specialkay
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Quote :
"What do you mean "work for a lot less"?

You mean "work a lot less"? Do you have good grammar skill?"


She means they'll work for a lot less.

If you dont understand what that means, you are once again failing to comprehend basic English in the written form. I cant imagine how horrible you are at verbal communication. I imagine you didnt want to be in academia because you failed due to your poor comprehension of English. I have had some professors that spoke pretty poor English, but there written communication was excellent and their spoken English was better than your written English.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM. Reason : go home]

8/6/2012 2:46:47 PM

shoot
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You are such a stupid idiot. Her English is pretty hard to understand.
As she said: Better grammar isn't equal to more money.
I'm just not quite use to the style she speaks.

^^ You did a good survey on my profile.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 3:01 PM. Reason : add another note]

8/6/2012 2:55:34 PM

David0603
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She'll work for a lot less money shoot. Money was implied since a large incentive for most people working is to collect a paycheck.

8/6/2012 3:00:37 PM

shoot
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See. I believe language is not hard. The hard part is the culture behind it. I don't like speaking English just like I don't like eating cheese.

8/6/2012 3:03:14 PM

David0603
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Not comprehending sarcasm and idioms is one thing.
Not understanding basic grammar and rhetoric is another.
Plus you come off as an insecure prick.

8/6/2012 3:06:06 PM

shoot
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You mean Chinese ppl are insecure in US? Ridiculous. Only South ppl think in this way.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 3:10 PM. Reason : add another note]

8/6/2012 3:09:40 PM

David0603
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No shoot, not Chinese people, just you. I work with plenty of secure Chinese people.

8/6/2012 3:13:39 PM

lewoods
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^^ Exactly what he is talking about.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 3:14 PM. Reason : ...]

8/6/2012 3:14:01 PM

Wolfey
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So you don't like speaking English yet you want to work in the US? Then try and get a job in San Francisco for a firm with a majority of Chinese people working there. I am sure some of them will speak Mandarin or Cantonese.

8/6/2012 3:15:51 PM

shoot
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^^^I want to keep aggressive since many ppl on this forum don't treat me nicely.


[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 3:29 PM. Reason : make it clear]

8/6/2012 3:16:22 PM

shoot
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^^ I don't like to but I'm forcing myself to, for living.

8/6/2012 3:18:26 PM

spydyrwyr
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Quote :
"^^I hung around in school for another fucking 4 yrs is because I didn't know if I should stay in academic area. After four years, I find out I don't have passion to become a faculty and want to switch to a very different field--sports industry.
Becoming a faculty is many Chinese students' goal."

This was your response to my honest attempt to give you constructive feedback? First of all you throw an F-bomb my way, which is quite discourteous to someone who tried to help you. Secondly you don't offer any relevant response or question to anything I said, further demonstrating your lack of reading comprehension and/or writing skills.

Also, what exactly are you looking for with this thread? You mention your plight, yet you don't "make it clear" what it is that you're looking for. Are you just venting? Looking for help, advice, or networking?

If you're trying to do any of those things, you're failing pretty miserably. If you're trying to troll... well then you've got an A-Prrus in my book!

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 3:32 PM. Reason : MAKE IT CLEAR!!!!!111!!!]

8/6/2012 3:30:53 PM

shoot
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Just venting. I understand what you are saying. And I agree with your advice. I don't mean to make this thread so long actually.
And I succeed on venting.

[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 3:37 PM. Reason : add another note]

8/6/2012 3:34:32 PM

specialkay
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Can we move this to chit chat?

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"Her English is pretty hard to understand. "

No it isnt

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"Better grammar isn't equal to more money."

How much does your job pay? oh wait, you dont have one.

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"I don't like speaking English"

Then why are you pursuing a life in an English speaking country? Go to a country that you enjoy the culture and language.


Sounds to me like you are just lazy and dont care to better yourself and make career decisions. Good job on having a kid and not having a job. Can you go on welfare while on a student visa?

8/6/2012 3:38:18 PM

David0603
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He has a sugar momma apparently. (Waits for shoot to decipher "sugar momma")

8/6/2012 3:40:58 PM

shoot
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I got a kid because my wife is old enough to have one. If we have one very late, it will be bad for her health.
I don't like speaking doesn't mean I won't speak.
I put into Old School column because I don't like chatting with kids.

8/6/2012 3:42:54 PM

BobbyDigital
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the alias strikes again

8/6/2012 3:48:29 PM

shoot
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DAT ASS strikes too.

8/6/2012 3:50:00 PM

specialkay
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well trolled shoot.

8/6/2012 3:56:10 PM

shoot
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I'm just venting, as a foreigner.

8/6/2012 4:15:38 PM

EMCE
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Let's try to keep this constructive, guys. Please attempt to curb the name calling, insults, etc... in Old School. I have to believe that shoot made this thread here in order to get away from the chit-chatness

Thx



[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 10:47 PM. Reason : f]

8/6/2012 10:09:09 PM

jbrick83
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Then ban this user. He's either an alias, troll, or so completely misguided that he doesn't need to post. He adds absolutely nothing to the site and subtracts plenty.

8/6/2012 10:26:37 PM

shoot
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You should be banned. You are selfish and insult other users. Your words show nothing but foolishness.Don't let me see you on the street.





[Edited on August 6, 2012 at 10:50 PM. Reason : add another note]

8/6/2012 10:44:22 PM

Rat Soup
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talk more about being ruled by an african american and his black wife

8/7/2012 1:24:45 AM

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