Im not laughing AT them, just the fact that we're so sure how College kids' careers pan out. hit or miss really

3/31/2014 2:47:21 PM

Quote :

"PG in college is more about who you can guard than what you can do offensively. Tyler is a good, not great, offensive player but is completely over-matched at this level on defense. We can't hide him at all, at least not against any team with a pair of ACC-caliber starting guards. He was always going to come off the bench if there was a better option available. Honestly, of all the transfers under Gott, this one makes the most sense for purely basketball reasons. With all that said, it still hurts, and his ball handling, basketball IQ, and highlight reels plays will be missed. If he would have accepted the backup roll, he could have become invaluable as experienced relief off the bench, especially while protecting a lead near the end of games."

^^ exactly

[Edited on March 31, 2014 at 3:21 PM. Reason : .]

3/31/2014 3:20:15 PM

I completely disagree about PG play. It's insanely important. It's not exactly rocket science to see why UK is winning now despite no increase in production from a guy like Randle. It's all about Harrison's growth.

Duke won every game that Quinn Cook actually showed up too.

UConn has won a title and made a Final Four almost exclusively due to PG play.

** almost invariably title winners have two things. A great PG and tough team defense.

[Edited on March 31, 2014 at 3:45 PM. Reason : Z]

3/31/2014 3:44:23 PM

Jason Williams was the main reason Duke was Duke a decade+ ago.

3/31/2014 5:32:11 PM

Both those guys had a reliable 3pt shot. Lewis doesn't.

3/31/2014 6:15:57 PM

Quote :

"Duke won every game that Quinn Cook actually showed up too."

Duke lost the best game of Cook's career against Mercer.

3/31/2014 6:17:47 PM

appreciation retracted

4/1/2014 9:04:49 AM

^^ meh, I was away so I didn't see that game. Larger point is still accurate. Locally look at the transformation of UNC after Drew left and KM took over.

4/1/2014 9:07:24 AM

welp, lock it up

4/1/2014 9:25:24 AM

It's for the best that he transferred. He was a desperation recruit that never panned out. He needs to find a conference that fits his level of size/skills. He'd be a nice fit at a mid major where he isn't such a liability in transition defense and on loose balls/long rebounds.

4/1/2014 10:56:24 AM

he was better in transition defense than barber. true fact. barber lost his man in transition constantly. honestly, it's probably the worst part of his game (besides tripping over his own feet while dribbling).

4/1/2014 11:01:30 AM

Yeah just having tyler back on defense is like having no one rotate back. The constant dunksand layups off long rrebounds just wreak havoc when trying to be competitive with college level teams

4/1/2014 1:06:05 PM

He had a legit butterstick

4/1/2014 1:07:05 PM

And a legit mcelbow

4/1/2014 1:24:54 PM

To Butler. Best of luck to him.

4/4/2014 7:38:08 PM

wow Butler is the last place I thought he'd go

that program is in shambles right now

4/4/2014 7:43:26 PM

I was hoping for Charlotte:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/04/03/4814702/ex-nc-state-point-guard-tyler.html

4/4/2014 7:45:02 PM

surely Butler wasn't his best option

Brad Stevens isn't walking through that door

4/4/2014 8:20:17 PM

Quote :

"barber lost his man in transition constantly"

That last minute or so when St Louis was on the break he was guarding literally no one and his man dropped the three on us to tie the game.

4/4/2014 8:50:45 PM

well his ears will only continue to grow at this rate...

4/4/2014 9:02:41 PM

So lemme just ask this cause it is on my mind: why is it that a guy like Tyler Lewis can't hack it in the ACC but somebody like Stocton killed it in the NBA? Is it the era that they played in, or are there fundamental skill set differences?

4/5/2014 6:23:08 AM

Stockton was an underrated athlete. He wasn't an explosive jumper or anything. But you don't become the all time leader in steals and assists without some serious quickness and agility.

Plus he was significantly taller than lewis.


Lewis has skill and a great head for the game. He's just too short and too limited athletically for his driving game to work and he's not a natural shooter. I think with a year off and not having to hit the weights so hard you'll see him start shooting a reasonable percentage from the floor.

4/5/2014 7:13:19 AM

Stockton was a really quick dude. He was also a little taller and leaner. Lewis is shorter and a little "stouter/stumpier" than Stockton. He'll never be quick or fast enough to hack it in the NBA.

It sucks...because he really does have phenomenal passing ability and point guard "instincts". I also think he could have been a solid starting point guard in the ACC if he could become a more consistent shooter.

4/5/2014 8:43:05 AM

Quote :

"That last minute or so when St Louis was on the break he was guarding literally no one and his man dropped the three on us to tie the game."

I remember that. He actually tried to make the right play. Him and nard switched guys and cat tried to switch back, but nard just stood there. That one is not on cat.

Lewis was too slow and couldn't guard the perimeter. So many blow bys that cause the whole defense to rotate and get out of position.

4/5/2014 11:10:59 AM

Quote :

" But you don't become the all time leader in steals and assists without some serious quickness and agility. "

John Stockton was 4 inches taller and much quicker than TL. Plus he was dirty in a good way.

You just compared TL to one of the best pure PGs ever.

4/5/2014 4:48:29 PM

BUT HE'S WHITE!!!!!

4/5/2014 5:03:55 PM

John Stockon has the white man's burden of being compared to all other future white point guards.

4/6/2014 12:36:56 AM

I don't understand why Rodney Purvis wasn't Michael Jordan, being black and all.

4/6/2014 12:44:19 AM

LOL John Stockton is 6ft 1....I love how people always point to me being tall and I should have played basketball...bitch I am 6ft 3 and normally would be one of the 3 shortest on any team.

4/6/2014 2:09:34 AM

The offseason!

http://butlerhoops.com/blog/tyler-lewis-the-future-of-butler-basketball/

Quote :

"Tyler Lewis is the best pure point guard I have ever seen. Bold? Absolutely. Unfounded? Maybe not."

I wish him the best and am sure he will have success at Butler, but I think we kept the better one.

9/30/2014 11:09:16 AM

That guy lost all credibility right out of the gate.

9/30/2014 11:23:17 AM

no offense to lewis, but if hes the future of any team, they're in trouble.

9/30/2014 12:40:11 PM

"Looking at his stats from his time at NC State, you would think that Lewis was not a very good shooter.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

He isn’t just an average shooter, he is a great one. Based off the system that was run at his former school, Tyler was not given the opportunity to shoot the ball freely."

LULZ

9/30/2014 6:14:34 PM

The entire time he was here I never knew he could get to the basket with ease.

9/30/2014 6:20:39 PM

I think that the ACC was just too soon for him; the dude needed a consistent shot that just was not there. BUT, in terms of unbelievable passes, he was an ace no doubt. He could use this year off to develop his shot and turn into a very decent player... or not.

9/30/2014 6:43:00 PM

Was absolutely worthless vs teams that could pressure the ball via man to man. Effective vs teams that played zone or packed their man to man inside. Crazy how his much value changed depending on the opposition.

9/30/2014 6:47:20 PM

He's going to be just as good as he was in high school. He just needed a fresh start.

9/30/2014 7:26:14 PM

I wish him all the luck in the world. But...

Quote :

"Tyler Lewis is the best pure point guard I have ever seen. Bold? Absolutely. Unfounded? Maybe not"

Nah, bruh.

9/30/2014 8:12:58 PM

Even with how small he is and his defensive issues, if he could've shot just a decent percentage from 3 I think he would've been above average ACC point guard. When you're that small and not overly quick, you have to be able to knock down some kind of jump shot.

9/30/2014 8:20:51 PM

Quote :

"no offense to lewis, but if hes the future of any team, they're in trouble."

9/30/2014 8:31:09 PM

Quote :

"no offense to lewis"

more like no defense from lewis, amirite?

9/30/2014 8:59:43 PM

^
Haha

9/30/2014 9:01:33 PM

Ibtl

9/30/2014 10:30:41 PM

Naw we can still appreciate the dude.

9/30/2014 10:35:23 PM

I'm glad someone finally took the pack pride reposting job away from me

10/1/2014 9:40:51 AM

Lol at anyone calling a guy who makes 36% in practice a GREAT shooter.

If you cant hit 50% in practice you shouldn't even take that shot in a game.

Ray Allen probably shoots close to 70% in practice. In his warmup routine even higher.

[Edited on October 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM. Reason : a]

10/2/2014 11:35:00 AM

not practice. pickup games.

10/2/2014 11:42:12 AM

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/11628640/butler-bulldogs-coach-brandon-miller-takes-leave-absence

oops

10/3/2014 12:26:05 AM

finally got that win over UNC

[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 2:30 PM. Reason : d]

11/26/2014 2:30:48 PM

plays the purvis cuckold role in a unc loss on the same day state picks up a nice win

appreciated

11/26/2014 8:59:45 PM