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bdmazur
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^^^Just stop. Please. Those of us who truly believed in the revolution still have a lot of work to do. You're making us all look bad and keeping us from getting anywhere.

11/9/2016 9:59:52 PM

dtownral
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Shane Ryan takes down a Shrike-type:
Why Won't Clinton Democrats Like Sally Albright Stop Lying About Bernie Sanders?
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/01/why-wont-liberals-like-sally-albright-stop-lying-a.html
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"There’s a very odd and persistent pathology in the minds of liberals and neoliberals who supported Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary: They hate Bernie Sanders. Sure, they hate Trump too—a lot—but man, they really, really hate Bernie. This can seem confusing, because as most of us know, the primary ended back in June. They’re a bit like that Japanese soldier who hid in the Filipino jungle for 27 years after World War Two, not realizing his country had surrendered, except for one key difference: The Clinton-ites won!

Yet victory hasn’t dimmed their deep antipathy for Bernie, and they will do anything to discredit him, ethics be damned. Here’s why it matters: There’s a fight going on for the heart of the party, and until the fight is resolved, opposing Trump will be that much harder. To beat centrism, and bury it in the graveyard of history, it’s important to understand how it operates on the propaganda level.

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[Edited on January 17, 2017 at 10:57 AM. Reason : .]

1/17/2017 10:56:12 AM

thegoodlife3
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that dudes obsession with All Things Bernie has been a bit much for months now

1/17/2017 11:02:09 AM

dtownral
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i agree, but i thought this piece was pretty good

i had seen that tweet shared a bunch on facebook so i'm glad he did a take-down about it

1/17/2017 11:05:36 AM

CapnObvious
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"To beat centrism, and bury it in the graveyard of history"


RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! MUST STOP ALL BIPARTISAN EFFORTS!!!111one

1/17/2017 11:05:39 AM

dtownral
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yeah, i really think you should read it before embarrassing yourself

1/17/2017 11:07:22 AM

NyM410
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I'm equally baffled by people like Shrike who are somehow convinced Sanders cost Clinton the election (never mind he was a pretty passionate surrogate for her) as I am those who supported Sanders but then voted Trump in the general.

[Edited on January 17, 2017 at 11:10 AM. Reason : Though I guess the Sanders/Trump people just want to watch DC burn]

1/17/2017 11:09:26 AM

dtownral
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are there really a significant number of the second group though? i'm not saying no one did that, but is it even a statistically significant amount? are they real?

[Edited on January 17, 2017 at 11:12 AM. Reason : .]

1/17/2017 11:11:07 AM

Shrike
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Man, dtownral's obsession with me is making kdogg's thing with Hillary look downright rational. Also, I think Sander's cost Clinton the election now? You people really need a new hobby than making up positions to attribute to me.

1/17/2017 11:12:40 AM

dtownral
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you're like golielax but without the ability to think critically. his only problem was that he thought he was smarter than everyone and wouldn't hear another side of an argument, but at least he demonstrated the ability to form an independent argument. you've always just been talking points.

1/17/2017 11:14:39 AM

Shrike
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Says the guy who literally quoted an article full of talking points to attack me, of all people, with. Your lack of self awareness is mind boggling.

1/17/2017 11:17:10 AM

dtownral
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it's actually attacking this tweet:
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"Sally Albright @SallyAlbright
Oh, look at that! Bernie took $309,575 from Big Pharma last year (3rd in the Senate) Cory Booker took $56,678 https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=H04&recipdetail=S&sortorder=A&mem=Y&cycle=2016 …"



don't be so sensitive, not everything is about you pumpkin

1/17/2017 11:25:43 AM

Shrike
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You literally lead your post with making it about me. Carry on though, it's flattering if nothing else.

For the record, I do believe that Bernie poisoning the well of millennials against Hillary is one of the many reasons she lost.

[Edited on January 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM. Reason : .]

1/17/2017 11:36:23 AM

dtownral
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shrike-types

[Edited on January 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM. Reason : everyone here understands what it means]

1/17/2017 12:17:22 PM

bdmazur
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The Clinton Democrats lost the election. Not Sanders, not the Russians, not the Trump machine. Clinton Democrats did more to rile up the conservative base than Trump did on his own. It seems that insulting people only energizes them rather than discourages them. The never-Trump Republicans and those who just kind of liked Trump but didn't initially care enough to vote for him...I'd bet everything in my wallet if we were able to see polls on those kinds of people they'd say they ended up voting for Trump because of the absurdist pompous attitude of Clinton supporters. Not Clinton herself, just the people pushing hardest for her.

1/17/2017 1:26:12 PM

kdogg(c)
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Quote :
"you're like golielax but without the ability to think critically. his only problem was that he thought he was smarter than everyone and wouldn't hear another side of an argument, but at least he demonstrated the ability to form an independent argument. you've always just been talking points."


Where is that guy?

Independent argument? Laughable.

Every time anyone criticized his views, he straight up abandoned argument and went ad hominem ad nauseam.

Furthermore, he literally FELL OFF THE FACE OF TWW after his savior lost the election.

[Edited on January 17, 2017 at 7:56 PM. Reason : Phone]

1/17/2017 7:52:39 PM

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