please explain this to me:



and the picture has a caption that says zionism=nazism

[Edited on August 4, 2005 at 11:42 AM. Reason : adfaa]

8/4/2005 11:41:57 AM

he'll just post a link to an address beginning with "www.geocities.com" to support his evidence.

8/4/2005 11:55:39 AM

Well, see, the Priory of Sion was actually in league with the Nazis...

8/4/2005 1:10:35 PM

Thousands of years ago, before the dawn of man as we knew him, there was Sir Santa of Claus: an ape-like creature making crude and pointless toys out of dino-bones and his own waste, hurling them at chimp-like creatures with crinkled hands regardless of how they behaved the previous year. These so-called "toys" were buried as witches, and defecated upon, and hurled at predators who were awoken by the searing grunts of children. It wasn't a holly jolly Christmas that year; for many were killed!

8/4/2005 1:18:35 PM

haha, gg Kris

8/4/2005 9:16:24 PM

haha, oh wait...

8/4/2005 9:17:54 PM

Read this article rjrumfel:

http://www.rense.com/general31/zionist.htm

8/4/2005 11:12:18 PM

now that's just ridiculous!


[Edited on August 5, 2005 at 1:02 AM. Reason : o]

8/5/2005 1:02:01 AM

eh, i just cant buy it

8/5/2005 1:02:42 AM

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""The Vagina Monologues" presents a sad picture of life at the dead-end of feminism. It is an anguished cry for male love by a generation of women deceived by feminism, who now have no choice but to become lesbians."

8/5/2005 1:42:07 AM

More...

NOTE: This is an article from a Jewish website dedicated to opposing Zionism.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm

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"Zionism and Anti-Semitism We implore and beseech our Jewish brethren to realize that the Zionists are not the saviors of the Jewish People and guarantors of their safety, but rather the instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy Land and worldwide. ... It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. ... Although Zionists and others dispute it, the undeniable fact is that revolutionary secular and apostate elements in the Jewish community in Europe contributed greatly to hostility towards Jews after World War I. This aroused hatred of Jews in general among many non-Jews. While a prisoner in 1924 in the fortress of Lansberg on the River Lech, Hitler wrote his Mein Kampf. When he became Chancellor of Germany in 1933, he was assisted by Goebbels, Roseberg and Streicher. From them came the declarations, “The Jews of Germany caused the defeat of Germany in the 1914-1918 war; the Jews of Germany were responsible for the terrible conditions in Germany that followed the war; the Jews of Germany are foreigners and they wish to remain foreigners; they have no loyalty to the country of their birth; they are not human; they are filthy dogs; they have no right to intrude into Germany’s affairs; there are too many Jews in Germany. ... Hateful views of Jews as being subhuman did not have to be invented by Nazi theorists such as Hitler, Goebbels, Rosenberg and Streicher. This ideology was simply adapted from statements of political Zionists such as those found in the writings of the Zionist Yehezkel Kaufman in 1933. In 1920 there were statements hostile to Jews expressed at Heidelberg University. These statements, arguing that Jews of Germany had caused the turmoil that followed the war; that the Jews of Germany had nothing in common with Germans, and that Germans had the right to prevent the Jews of Germany from intruding into the affairs of their volk were not made by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, but by Nahum Goldmann, who went in to become the President of the World Zionist Organization and head of the World Jewish Congress, and, indisputably, the most influential political Zionist in the world, second only to the Prime Minister of the State of Israel."

[Edited on August 5, 2005 at 12:10 PM. Reason : 2]

8/5/2005 12:05:24 PM

Those are educated people opposed to actual zionism, not the conspiracy theory kind that you believe in. Notice that they didn't say anything about Jews directly causing anti-semitism to further their plans for world domination, nor did they say anything about jews collaborating with the Nazis. Once again, you've provided an article that has nothing to do with the subject at hand in the hopes that it will somehow help your silly argument.

8/5/2005 12:26:04 PM

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"Notice that they didn't say anything about Jews directly causing anti-semitism to further their plans for world domination..."

They directly stated that Jewish Zionists are the "instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy Land and worldwide" and "intentionally stir up anti-Semitism" in order to advance their cause. So what if they didn't acknowledge or state that the Zionist agenda includes "world domination"? Apparantly you're trying to distract from the main point here....which is that ZIONISM IS THE SOURCE OF "ANTI-SEMITISM."

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"nor did they say anything about jews collaborating with the Nazis"

While the article did not explicitly state that Zionists collaborated with the Nazis, it made it clear that one of the goals of Zionism is to stir up "anti-Semitism", that Zionists were stirring up "anti-Semitism" in Germany prior to the emergence of the Nazi party in Germany, and that the Zionists and the Nazis shared many of the same ideas.

From the article...

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"The Zionists agreed with Nazism in general, even prior to the advent of Nazism. They believed that Jews could not, and should not, live in harmony in any other society in the world, and that should be removed from those societies for the benefit of those societies. They believed that the new Jewish existence in its own State would remake the image of Jews as “useless” and “parasites.” These ideas existed long before Adolf Hitler!"

Based only upon the information in this article, and especially the fact that the Zionists and Nazis shared common goals, it seems highly probable that Zionists and Nazis would have colloborated at least to some degree.

I never said this article was perfect. I would prefer that it go further, and discuss how powerful Zionists actually funded and fostered the Nazi party.

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"Once again, you've provided an article that has nothing to do with the subject at hand in the hopes that it will somehow help your silly argument."

"Nothing to do with the subject at hand"?! This article has EVERYTHING to do with the subject at hand. At the very least, it has something to do with the subject at hand. It deals with the Zionist connection to "anti-Semitism" in general, and specifically with Zionist connections to the "anti-Semitism" created by the Nazis.

In case you're wondering, I decided to respond to this particular post of yours because it was simply SO moronic that it was practically begging a response. I have to be selective with my time. If I were to attempt respond to all the idiotic false and misleading statements you make on TWW, I'd need a few more hours in the day.

Finally, this response is not so much for your sake, but for other readers. I realize that it will have little effect upon you.


[Edited on August 5, 2005 at 1:39 PM. Reason : 3]

8/5/2005 1:26:43 PM

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"Finally, this response is not so much for your sake, but for other readers. I realize that it will have little effect upon you."

now u know how we feel

8/5/2005 1:48:27 PM

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"...the Zionists and the Nazis shared many of the same ideas."

The extermination of jews?

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"Based only upon the information in this article, and especially the fact that the Zionists and Nazis shared common goals, it seems highly probable that Zionists and Nazis would have colloborated at least to some degree."

Highly probable? Thats pure speculation with absolutely no factual evidence. While some zionists may support anti-semitism as a means of motivating jews to move to a jewish homeland, its not anywhere near the same as inciting genocide against one's own people.

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"It deals with the Zionist connection to "anti-Semitism" in general, and specifically with Zionist connections to the "anti-Semitism" created by the Nazis."

It never explicitly says that zionists had any direct relationship with the Nazi party, it simply says that "revolutionary secular and apostate elements in the Jewish community in Europe contributed greatly to hostility towards Jews after World War I." Keep in mind that it never says that the generation of such feelings were intentional.

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"In case you're wondering, I decided to respond to this particular post of yours because it was simply SO moronic that it was practically begging a response."

Is this because my other posts point out such huge holes in your ideas that you can't even begin to explain them?

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"I have to be selective with my time."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I'm sure that you have many important websites that you need to check on for new conspiracies.

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"If I were to attempt respond to all the idiotic false and misleading statements you make on TWW, I'd need a few more hours in the day. "

Trying to dismiss me with slander! I thought that was a technique of the NWO! The sad truth is that the majority of the notions that you hold dear to your heart defy logic and any rational mind can see the enormous holes in them. While I know that its much easier for you to make up excuses than to defend your ideas, at the very least, please think for yourself instead of relegating such duties to Alex Jones.

8/5/2005 6:36:11 PM