salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/080905confiscatingfirearms.htm
Quote : | "New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
New York Times | September 8 2005
NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 8 - Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.
No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns or other firearms, said P. Edwin Compass III, the superintendent of police. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.
But that order apparently does not apply to hundreds of security guards hired by businesses and some wealthy individuals to protect property. The guards, employees of private security companies like Blackwater, openly carry M-16's and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said that he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.
Nearly two weeks after the floods began, New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers. While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and the police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman said." |
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/090905gunconfiscation.htm
Quote : | "Total Gun Confiscation of Law Abiding Citizens Begins
Alex Jones/Infowars.com | September 9 2005
The federal government has been chomping at the bit for decades to disarm the American people, and now an amalgamation of state and local police led by the BATF are having their deepest desire fulfilled in New Orleans.
Major newspapers are reporting that in middle-class neighborhoods undamaged by floodwaters paramilitary police are going door-to-door demanding citizens’ firearms.
The New York Times even admitted that this is so that the citizenry cannot resist when they are physically forced to leave their homes.
Most of the residents are contentious nurses and power plant employees who are currently working in key areas of infrastructure. Others refuse to leave because early on they were told they would have to break up their families to do so. Still more refuse to leave and give up beloved family pets.
Hold outs, many of whom have a year’s supply of food and water filters, tell the police, “We’re the people who stopped the looters when you guys were nowhere to be seen in the first six days.”
So the Federal Government does a horrible job delivering food and water to people they told to go to the Superdome, and now, almost two weeks later, they say the city is under their control. Their main mission: going door-to-door and confiscating American citizens’ lawfully owned firearms. This is treason. This is sedition against the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and our way of life." |
9/11/2005 2:14:31 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, not seditious
plus, sedition is a legal right of the citizenry. 9/11/2005 2:15:45 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Video...
Police forcibly tackling elderly, confiscating firearms and dragging them out of their homes http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Sept05/100905policevid.htm
Quote : | "So-called conservative O'Reilly lauds it as cops force their way into homes and aprehend dangerous insurgent old women." |
9/11/2005 2:21:30 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Can we spoon? 9/11/2005 2:23:48 PM |
NCSUDiver All American 1829 Posts user info edit post |
There is a very simple solution to all this. Set a deadline for everyone to leave, then nuke the whole damn city. Then everyone can stop bitching about what should and shouldn't be done there. 9/11/2005 5:27:20 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
the day a cop comes through my door to confiscate any of my weapons is the day said cop gets a bullet to the dome piece. 9/11/2005 6:21:19 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
I own my gun legally. I obtained it under legal pretenses and circumstances, I use it in accordance with all state and federal laws, and I have committed no crimes with it. But if the popo do show up at my door and try to take my gun, we are gonna have a problem.
Basically what ^ said.
[Edited on September 11, 2005 at 6:31 PM. Reason : better wording] 9/11/2005 6:30:18 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Is this where I post on TWW to act like a hardass knowing full well that I'd turn over any firearm I had if the military/police rolled into my crib and would be more than happy to shoot me if I even thought about pulling a gun on them?
Because I'm looking for that thread. 9/11/2005 8:06:13 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Is this where I post on TWW to act like a hardass knowing full well that I'd turn over any firearm I had if the military/police rolled into my crib and would be more than happy to shoot me if I even thought about pulling a gun on them?
Because I'm looking for that thread." |
haha...my thoughts exactly9/11/2005 8:16:35 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
get yourself a badge and come to my door and demand my guns.
do it.
this isn't bravado, it's truth. 9/11/2005 8:57:21 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
I'll be more than happy to give them the gun....when I know I've done something that I shouldn't have. But if we're talking about them just rollin' on up in my home and telling me that even legally registered guns have to be removed "for my safety" or whatever bullshit excuse they gave in that article, then I'm not gonna be very happy.
I don't care how you interpret the Second Amendment, the American people have the right to bare arms in order that they might be able to defend themselves. If I get some power-trip high cop breathing down my neck and telling me that I have to give him my piece because I can't be trusted with it but I'm suppose to trust him with his, then god damnit I will exercise that right. 9/11/2005 10:52:10 PM |
Pyro Suspended 4836 Posts user info edit post |
I knew they were confiscating in the shelters, but this is the first I've heard of this. 9/11/2005 11:06:43 PM |
Patman All American 5873 Posts user info edit post |
It's always tough to say when a situation warrants suspending certain rights. 9/11/2005 11:31:08 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
rights should never be suspended, under any circumstances. that's bullshit. 9/11/2005 11:52:15 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I knew they were confiscating in the shelters, but this is the first I've heard of this." |
i dont have a problem with the shelters
i mean there were 20,000 black people in there together
SHIT GOT REAL NIGGA9/11/2005 11:54:28 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this isn't bravado, it's truth." |
Yeah, you're one hardcore cop killing motherfucker.9/12/2005 2:02:12 AM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
Dude, if some cop came up to me and tried to take my gun, I'd totally kill him.
That's how we roll in Kernersville.
But seriously, New Orleans probably has no less than 2,000 30thAnnZs, and not a single one of them are going to do shit. 9/12/2005 5:54:38 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
^
Quote : | "get yourself a badge and come to my door and demand my guns.
do it." |
NEXT
Quote : | "Yeah, you're one hardcore cop killing motherfucker." |
when he comes through the door to take away something that's guaranteed to me in the bill of rights, then yes. i obtained my firearms legally, have never used them in commission of a crime, and have never been convicted of a crime. what legal grounds do they have to take them away?
same goes for the people of NO. they should pack up their legally obtained firearms and leave town prior to this happening.
[Edited on September 12, 2005 at 8:33 AM. Reason : *]9/12/2005 8:33:05 AM |
ddlakhan All American 990 Posts user info edit post |
if im not mistaken FUCKEN MIILITARY RULE WAS DECLARED... they have the legal right if im not mistaken, has the consititution been negated in this instance. its not even a matter of legality. they can demand anything they want is my understanding 9/12/2005 9:39:21 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
well then don't be surprised when cops start getting shot over shit like this 9/12/2005 9:43:29 AM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
salisburyboy you should have bolded this part too
Quote : | "While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and the police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman said."" |
9/12/2005 9:49:14 AM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
u should know by now that salisburybot likes to bold only what supports his position. if it doesnt support his position, he ignores it based on him believing it is a lie made up by the elite, zionist, NWO, police-state, jew controlled media and government. 9/12/2005 9:59:26 AM |
Grapehead All American 19676 Posts user info edit post |
talking to evacuees of greenville and such, this is out of the ordinary.
you are not allowed to take firearms, explosives, etc when evacuating, but maybe this scenario, with all the looting and such, they are concerned with the threat posed by weapons left in abandoned dwellings. 9/12/2005 10:06:56 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS THE ONE THAT PROTECTS THE OTHERS
or whatever that bumper sticker says 9/12/2005 10:16:55 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
"Well behaved women rarely make history"? 9/12/2005 10:18:03 AM |
Pyro Suspended 4836 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the police received only 10 calls for service" |
That's probably because the phone lines are still down. 9/12/2005 10:23:05 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
I know that they were taking them at the buses leaving town. If they were legal, they tagged them with your contact info so you can get them back. Bitching about that is like bitching about not having the right to take a gun on a plane.
Gotta love the rationale of "I am law abiding, so if someone comes and tries to take my guns, I'm going to murder them." Go ahead and do it...then the police will kill you and I'll rejoyce a little inside
[Edited on September 12, 2005 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .] 9/12/2005 3:01:49 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a law abiding citizens. When the police pull my car over I kill them. 9/12/2005 3:04:49 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I know that they were taking them at the buses leaving town. If they were legal, they tagged them with your contact info so you can get them back. Bitching about that is like bitching about not having the right to take a gun on a plane.
Gotta love the rationale of "I am law abiding, so if someone comes and tries to take my guns, I'm going to murder them." Go ahead and do it...then the police will kill you and I'll rejoyce a little inside" |
the bolded part makes this a completely different situation. the word confiscating means taking without any intent to return.
[Edited on September 12, 2005 at 3:07 PM. Reason : *]9/12/2005 3:07:00 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
And that's where jumping the gun (can't decide if there is a pun intended there or not) on such topics leads.
I honestly know nothing about the talk of them going from house to house, and as such will make no comment on it. But I have to hope it would be under the same circumstances.
The only other thing I'll say is fuck whoever was shooting at the people trying to evacuate the hospital. I think Brutus deserves a break from getting chewed on by Satan - you can take his place. 9/12/2005 3:10:07 PM |
Queti All American 13537 Posts user info edit post |
this might bother me under normal circumstances... but this by no means is a normal situation.
most of the folks down in NO right now are criminals, looters, and rapists. there have been several shootouts down there (one of which my good friend was involved in), numerous times where rescuers and police have been fired upon, etc. the police don't know the good from the bad. therefore they have to take them from everyone to protect themselves and all those helping down there. if they are tagging the legal ones and returning, no big deal.
the few that didn't evacuate and are refusing are quite frankly idiots and are in the way of the people trying to rescue people and restore the city. they don't need to be down there acting as vigilantes. they need to get out of the city and out of the way like most everyone else did.
that's my opinion any way... and i live down here. 9/12/2005 3:18:32 PM |
Opstand All American 9256 Posts user info edit post |
Hey good to see you are doing well Queti (or as well as you can be). Stay safe and get our gas prices down! 9/12/2005 3:37:41 PM |
Queti All American 13537 Posts user info edit post |
thanks. my refinery is finally coming up (i've been working 7 days/week since wednesday after the storm) and will probably be cranking out gas in the next day or so. we had 250,000 bbls in tanks that we shipped out the other day. and our sister refinery in convent, la is up. i think combined we are like 6-7% of the US demand. and we supply the southeast mainly so hopefully gas prices will slow down for ya'll.
[Edited on September 12, 2005 at 4:03 PM. Reason : er] 9/12/2005 3:57:44 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
SALISBURY BOY STRIKES AGAIN WITH COMPLETE CRAP 9/12/2005 4:23:18 PM |
suprmn1020 Veteran 210 Posts user info edit post |
Okay.... Just to clarify and dispell the conspiracy theories: A. The federal government is not confiscating the firearms. Upon an intelligent examination of the articles one would notice that "Police Officers began confiscating weapons." The police being the local police NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. B. This was ordered by the Superintendent of police. ie see above C. The Superintendent of police is an idiot in control of the most corrupt police department (Search Google you will see Police kill civilians for Drugs) in the US. I justify the idiot part because he held a police news conference with Jesse Jackson as his side man. D. These confiscations are not legal and the military was acting as support for LE. The Director of FEMA was on face the nation saying this and that he did not support the confiscations. 9/13/2005 12:21:49 AM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
Hi New Orleans, I'm martial law. Nice to meet you. 9/13/2005 1:08:00 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Alright, I'll concede that I jumped the gun (har har) and was being emotional and reactionary. Such is my weakness. 9/13/2005 3:32:57 AM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
I love how so many people in this thread think they actually will be able to gun down a cop if the police/military want your guns.
I suspect most of you will be shot before you can take the safety off. If they are coming to get your guns, rest assured they will be well armed, well armored, and well prepared. and if that fails and you some how manage to ward them off, theyll just 'Waco' you. 9/13/2005 9:19:01 AM |
Canis Lupis All American 616 Posts user info edit post |
Useless thought they may be in a firefight, it's stuff like this that makes me happy to stick to my blades, which are a bit more useful in close combat anyhow.
..... In other news, I heard on a bulletin that last week some folks were shooting at the rescue helicopters... I heard it maybe five or six times over two days, but now I can't seem to find any info about it. Does anyone know what the deal was, there? Why on earth would anyone shoot at a rescue helicopter? 9/13/2005 10:54:19 AM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
LISTEN TO YOU FRONTIN' ABOUT "MY BLADES"
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH YOU FUCKING FURRIES
DO YOU JUST LIVE IN YOUR FANTASY WORLDS TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY OR SOMETHING
[Edited on September 13, 2005 at 11:00 AM. Reason : LIKE YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT "CLOSE COMBAT" THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE BULLIES IN HIGH SCHOOL] 9/13/2005 10:58:02 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's stuff like this that makes me happy to stick to my blades" |
Holy lord you are a tool.9/13/2005 12:13:29 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
i think salisburybot is just a massive attention whore. someone post the attention whore pic used in chit chat. 9/13/2005 12:53:23 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
^Which one?
9/13/2005 9:42:17 PM |
Stonerman All American 672 Posts user info edit post |
How did I miss this thread...
I think the video is funny.. The guy says,"they just took our guns because ours were bigger than theirs". 9/15/2005 11:19:22 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " If they were legal, they tagged them with your contact info so you can get them back." |
9/15/2005 11:21:56 PM |
Stonerman All American 672 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." --Adolf Hitler, 1935" |
9/15/2005 11:25:03 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1. -Godwin's Law" |
9/15/2005 11:40:27 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
this situation in NO has spawned all sorts of bad and weird 9/16/2005 12:09:16 AM |