BigB23USAABC All American 913 Posts user info edit post |
tell me. 9/28/2005 1:51:26 AM |
bassman803 All American 16965 Posts user info edit post |
google.com 9/28/2005 1:51:45 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Because this is one of the world's great comedic films:
9/28/2005 2:04:18 AM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
Most over-rated band EVER! 9/28/2005 2:15:53 AM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
"I'll probably be popped off by some loony." 9/28/2005 2:29:46 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Most over-rated band EVER!
9/28/2005 8:10:57 AM |
screentest All American 1955 Posts user info edit post |
b/c they have more good songs and more great albums than any band ever. 9/28/2005 8:14:01 AM |
mvriley All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "b/c they have more good songs and more great albums than any band ever.
" |
9/28/2005 8:30:28 AM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-beatles_canon.html
[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 8:33 AM. Reason : fixed] 9/28/2005 8:33:16 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
more like why should we care if you give a shit about the beatles 9/28/2005 8:35:12 AM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Most over-rated band EVER!" |
9/28/2005 8:37:56 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sorry Ronny, but you are wrong. The beatles really are that good. 9/28/2005 8:39:51 AM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
They are not a bad band, by any means. However, they are not even half as good as everyone thinks they are.
Most over-rated band EVER! 9/28/2005 8:53:22 AM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Most over-rated band EVER!" |
9/28/2005 8:53:33 AM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
Because of this song:
Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand
9/28/2005 9:06:44 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
The Rolling Stones rock soooo much harder 9/28/2005 9:20:35 AM |
MetalRed All American 27124 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Most over-rated band EVER!" |
9/28/2005 9:21:44 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
^^The Stones would never even have started writing their own songs if not for the Beatles.
And The Who rock soooo much harder than the Stones, anyway.
It's pointless to argue about this, though. The Beatles fucking rock. If you don't understand that, your loss. 9/28/2005 9:27:32 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
The Stones rock harder, but that's irrelevant, since the Beatles were never a "kick your ass with rock" kind of band. 9/28/2005 9:35:41 AM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
helter skelter was pretty awesome, though. 9/28/2005 9:44:45 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
^ TRUTH 9/28/2005 9:45:10 AM |
schmitter5 All American 2169 Posts user info edit post |
To start with the obvious, they were the greatest and most influential act of the rock era, and introduced more innovations into popular music than any other rock band of the 20th century. Moreover, they were among the few artists of any discipline that were simultaneously the best at what they did and the most popular at what they did.
http://www.allmusic.com
[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 9:47 AM. Reason : i'm not suggesting that what allmusic says is always true, but they're right in this case] 9/28/2005 9:45:54 AM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Start with A Hard Day's Night, finish with Let It Be, get back to us. 9/28/2005 10:26:01 AM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
i hate the fucking beatles. 9/28/2005 10:26:39 AM |
MetalRed All American 27124 Posts user info edit post |
I recognize what they did for music. Pushing the limit of whats acceptable and throwing everything that was taboo right in your face. They paved the way for countless other bands, and alot of bands that i DO like probably wouldnt either be here, or be te same if it werent for the Beatles
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I HAVE TO LIKE THEIR MUSIC. 9/28/2005 10:33:18 AM |
bassman803 All American 16965 Posts user info edit post |
hasnt this been done to death 9/28/2005 11:20:24 AM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
^^ See, now that was well said. I've no problem with that. 9/28/2005 11:32:10 AM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
im with metalred on this one. i appreciate the influence and the music is alright, but i just dont see what the fuss is about concerning their music (nowadays). 9/28/2005 11:55:52 AM |
pyrowebmastr All American 1354 Posts user info edit post |
Best songwriters ever 9/28/2005 12:27:49 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i appreciate the influence and the music is alright, but i just dont see what the fuss is about concerning their music (nowadays)." |
It's personal preference.
I pulled out my copy of Hard Day's Night yesterday and popped it into the CD player. Still love it as much as the first time I listened to it. The same goes for all of their albums.9/28/2005 12:54:32 PM |
ScottyP All American 1131 Posts user info edit post |
Go do drugs and then listen to the white album, and that will tell you why to give a shit
[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 12:59 PM. Reason : speeling] 9/28/2005 12:59:23 PM |
Pi Master All American 18151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I recognize what they did for music. Pushing the limit of whats acceptable and throwing everything that was taboo right in your face. They paved the way for countless other bands, and alot of bands that i DO like probably wouldnt either be here, or be te same if it werent for the Beatles
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I HAVE TO LIKE THEIR MUSIC." |
9/28/2005 1:53:26 PM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
Love em. everyone who says they're overrated knows jackshit about music. 9/28/2005 5:07:27 PM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
the beatles are hands down my favorite band ever
at least 90% of the elitist music i listen to probably wouldnt exist without help from the beatles
i understand that a lot of people dont see this connection, dont like the music, or simply associate the beatles with their early 60's material and the original visits to the states
The onlsaught of brilliant records started in 1965 with the release of Rubber Soul. The following seven albums were original and brilliant and influential as anything ever released
i used to be able to argue the stones-beatles thing until my tongue froze up, but now i realize that regardless of their importance to everything that is good about music today, some people still don't dig them. and thats fine 9/28/2005 5:17:58 PM |
EhSteve All American 7240 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I vaguely remember my schooldays. They were what was going on in the background while I was trying to listen to the Beatles.
...
I didn't know it was art then, of course. I only knew that the Beatles were the most exciting thing in the universe. It wasn't always an easy view to live with. First you had to fight the Stones fans, which was tricky because they fought dirty and had their knuckles nearer the ground.
...
I sang in the school choir and knew how to listen for harmony and counterpoint, and it was clear to me that the Beatles were something extraordinarily clever. It bewildered me that no one else could hear it: impossible harmonies and part playing you had never heard in pop songs before. The Beatles were obviously just putting all this stuff in for some secret fun of their own, and it seemed exciting to me that people could have fun in that way.
The next exciting thing was that they kept on losing me. They would bring out a new album and for a few listenings it would leave me cold and confused. Then gradually it would begin to unravel itself in my mind. I would realize that the reason I was confused was that I was listening to Something that was simply unlike anything that anybody had done before. " |
-Douglas Adams
I like the Beatles stuff, but I got a little burned out on them after a while. There's too much good music coming out right now that I want to listen to.
However, if you don't know where music's been, it's hard to fully appreciate where it is now.
Even if you don't like them, chances are that somebody who makes music you do enjoy does.
[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 6:47 PM. Reason : ]9/28/2005 6:46:44 PM |
niteman Veteran 374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Love em. everyone who says they're overrated knows jackshit about music." |
ahmen9/28/2005 9:21:14 PM |
ncstatemed Starting Lineup 80 Posts user info edit post |
I love how someone's opinion means they "know" something about music. I dont think the Beatles are bad, but definantly overrated. 9/29/2005 10:47:59 AM |
Pi Master All American 18151 Posts user info edit post |
My opinion's right and everyone else's opinion is wrong where they differ from mine. 9/29/2005 11:00:22 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I recognize what they did for music. Pushing the limit of whats acceptable and throwing everything that was taboo right in your face. They paved the way for countless other bands, and alot of bands that i DO like probably wouldnt either be here, or be te same if it werent for the Beatles
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I HAVE TO LIKE THEIR MUSIC.
" |
its like citizen kane to me. i understand that much of the film process for that movie was groundbreaking and very influential and i understand why afi chose it as #1.
that said, it is a very boring movie to me.9/29/2005 11:06:35 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I love how someone's opinion means they "know" something about music." |
Dude, Keith, give it up.
No one's saying you have to like their music.
But if anyone claims they're overrated on talent and songwriting ability, you're just wrong.
[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 11:18 AM. Reason : ]9/29/2005 11:17:25 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "b/c they have more good songs and more great albums than any band ever." |
no no no no no no no no no no NO!9/29/2005 12:40:17 PM |
ncstatemed Starting Lineup 80 Posts user info edit post |
Dave, how can you prove they are talented? There is no way to prove talent, it is merely someone's opinion. So you should give it up. Dont give me any bullcrap about music theory either. Any band that has someone in it that would marry Yoko Ono has to be crazy. 9/29/2005 1:19:11 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
There are plenty of things the Beatles did that had never been done before.
I could point out things Harrison did on lead guitar that no one in the rock world had done before (such as the hybrid-picked turnaround riff in "Help").
I could point out the fact that their chord progressions were more complex than anything in the contemporary pop/rock world, and are still more complex than the vast majority of pop/rock.
I could point out things that Lennon and McCartney did in songwriting that no one in the rock world had done before (such as the merging of two songs with the orchestral interludes that became "A Day in the Life").
I could point out that they were one of the first rock bands to record acoustic instruments, rather than just using amps to mask bad playing ("And I Love Her").
I could point out that they were one of the first rock bands to write material that was more than trite, sappy love songs ("Paperback Writer").
I could point out that they made incredible use of vocal and instrumental harmony.
And I could point out plenty of other things that they started, too, but if your mind's already made up, it wouldn't matter anyway. 9/29/2005 1:30:43 PM |
ncstatemed Starting Lineup 80 Posts user info edit post |
I could point out that myself and many others still think they suck. Furthermore, all of what you said may be true, however that does not negate the fact that when you say they are great it is merely an opinion. I am sure that a band could posses all of the traits you just listed and still suck balls. 9/29/2005 1:37:04 PM |
JLCayton All American 2715 Posts user info edit post |
to say you don't like their music is totally acceptable.
to say they are overrated is totally retarded. 9/29/2005 2:44:28 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
^That statement was totally retarded. If we don't like their music, then of course we are going to think all the hype that surrounds them makes them OVER RATED! 9/29/2005 2:49:55 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
I remember hearing the Abbey Road Medley, and that being the first time I had ever heard anything of that kind.
I was young tho, and I'm sure that had been done before.
[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 2:55 PM. Reason : Still, neato!] 9/29/2005 2:55:40 PM |
JLCayton All American 2715 Posts user info edit post |
^^ not in my eyes. It is your personal opinion that their music sucks. It is a fact that they helped shape music as we know it today. 9/29/2005 4:45:41 PM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's hilarious when people say the beatles suck. not that everyone should be clones and have the same opinioin, but my respect meter drops big time when someone starts spouting off that bullshit about it being their opinion, blah blah blah. same goes for the ramones.
call me an elitist if you will, but I can tell that a dude has shitty taste in music when they say dumb shit like that.
it's like saying picasso sucked. "that's my opinion" well that's your opinion, but you're wrong.
[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 5:03 PM. Reason : .] 9/29/2005 5:00:02 PM |
mentu82 All American 1291 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Shitty Beatles? Are they any good? No, they suck Oh, so it isn't just a clever name" |
9/29/2005 5:05:08 PM |