Don't shoot me. I posted this in study hall too, but I thought I should definitely post this here:

Hi all:

Tomorrow a group of really cool faculty and staff are getting together to discuss email issues surrounding students and student accounts. These faculty and staff are involved heavily in using technology in teaching and other student services. A very active (and sometimes heated) discussion has taken place on our listserv regarding email standards, addresses and more. Its great for us to talk about it, but unless we have your input and thoughts, we really can't make good decisions on how we handle email in the future.

So, I am looking for a few of you to attend this discussion and share your perspective so that we can have a better understanding of what you like and need. 3:30-5pm in the Library (Assembly room on the second floor, east wing, near the ITTC lab.

Teaching, Learning and Technology Roundtable discussion: September 29, TH, 3:30-5pm, Assembly Room DH Hill Library 2nd floor East Wing. TOPIC:

"HotStud@whoknowswhereorwhen.com: Does email facilitate or frustrate faculty-student, university-student communication?"

Meeting description on http://ncsu.edu/tltr/Meeting.html

PM if you can come and I walk over with you.

9/28/2005 9:14:48 PM

well all email addresses should be standardized

profs, students, support staff, etc.

it makes it easier to email people

i dont see why this should be discussed

9/28/2005 9:20:41 PM

well, believe me, they are talking about it. Standardized to what?: Unity accounts? In any event, this has been a big discussion. All the same, same really as is, why, and I think it may evolve into more issues surrounding email not related to addresses, accounts... For example, what do students expect of faculty in terms of email? Do they expect all to be as comfortable using and communicating via email as the student? What is too long, too short? What can or do you hope to accomplish via email vs. face to face? I think many email issues will come up as part of the discussion.

Come find out and let them hear your thoughts. Otherwise, we are likely to make decisions based on our thoughts, not yours. And you all are the reason we are here.

9/28/2005 9:25:32 PM

unity ids

why change something that is working?

ill give you the email communication point. i can see how that is tricky with all the different professors. i say that it is something that should be addressed in the first day of classes. an addendum to the syllabus would be the most appropriate thing i think.

i cant make it because i have class during that time

9/28/2005 9:32:18 PM

as an administrator on campus I can say that the general lack of standardization, email addresses and much much more is very frustrating and makes my job unnecessarily harder. I'd go if I didn't have class =\

also, emailing someone's unity id usually works, even if they have a faculty alias like firstname.lastname.@ncsu.edu but there are a lot of accounts that need to be updated that have grandfathered themselves in. also, we need to do away with pop and update all the pop accounts. and for the love of god, please get rid of hostreg and implement something better. I'd save a lot of headache if I just had a giant vlan for my departments that worked everywhere and wasn't on an old crappy system that took hours to update. finally, please rip out all crossover wiring on campus, it is a royal pain in the ass.

[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 9:47 PM. Reason : .]

9/28/2005 9:43:09 PM

^You're an admin now? What depts? I didn't know you were working for us. Thanks for posting your thoughts. Every bit of input helps.

9/28/2005 10:07:58 PM

^^
What the crap? No hookups of all the random stuff thats unaccounted for on campus? That's definitely not smooth...

free bump

9/28/2005 10:48:11 PM

Bump. Full meeting agenda. Any more comments?

1) how do we define freedom of choice and responsibility when it comes to IT issues such as email addresses?
2) what burdens of communication should faculty and staff bear and which should students bear?
3) what reliability and functionality is needed for communication to/from students?
5) what levels of computer competency and information fluency do we want to agree to across the board for students? Or no general expectations?
6) where in the university should responsibility for this fall?
7) how are decisions regarding such issues as standardizing email addresses made and how should they be made? (this last issue touches on a much larger university-wide question that I think the campus must broach in numerous arenas)


Come one, come all.

9/29/2005 1:57:07 PM

I think we should make classes like e115 mandatory for all students (and faculty) and less of a joke. Personal computing, such as a regular maintainance and OS affluency should be stressed. Showing students how to setup a reasonably secure computer should be a key.

Teachers need to have an email address that's up to date and readily check it, atleast once daily. Even if just their TAs check it. It's unreasonable to ask a student to find time to meet with a professor at the professor's convenience everytime they have a question, but at the same time, the student shouldn't expect help beyond what can be relayed via email and information provided in class.

/rant

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 2:38 PM. Reason : e115]

9/29/2005 2:12:15 PM

i think students should be allowed to expect some outside instruction

arent they supposed to hold office hours?

9/29/2005 2:20:21 PM

I mean if they can't make the office hours

9/29/2005 2:38:01 PM