Pretty basic question, looking for sites that have all the V clamps and weird ass bends/tubing available that are typical in turbo setups. Thinking about doing a rear-mount turbo setup on the vette and dont really wanna pay the $6K price tag for the kit that is out right now from STS when I know it isn't near that for the parts...and I just got a new welder so I wanna catch somethin on fire Just looking to get some idea on prices of parts real quick

and no, this thread will not involve that god damn white car

10/5/2005 1:08:27 AM

If you don't buy a kit you better be able and prepared to custom fabricate when needed.

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 1:10 AM. Reason : .]

10/5/2005 1:10:31 AM

that is kind of my point, durr

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 1:13 AM. Reason : i love fabricating and have the tools to do so, just looking for some sources for parts...]

10/5/2005 1:13:21 AM

i'm sorry but to me



does not look like a person that could fabricate an L bracket let alone a turbo kit

10/5/2005 1:29:23 AM

your opinion about the color of my shirt doesn't matter, i've been fixing/making shit since i was literally 7 years old, i'll just search for the shit for myeslf since you douche's aren't worth a damn

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 1:32 AM. Reason : i wouldnt be driving a corvette if i didnt know how to do shit like that myself, asshole]

10/5/2005 1:31:50 AM

BAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA


no a c5 hardly means you know shit about cars
any miami vice wanna be w/ a couple bucks wants a vette
late c3, c4, c5 doesn't matter as long as they have pastel colors and silk

i'd assume you could fab if you had something not so run of the mill and a little older
or a jeep or something

10/5/2005 1:39:04 AM

I have a C5 because of the work I've done in the past (well, not completely, but its the main reason I had the cash to buy one). I didn't have the income when I bought the car that I do now. Basically I bought a 3000GT VR4 with a spun rod bearing and pulled the motor/rebuilt it myself, drove it for a while and sold it for quite a bit of profit. Next was a supercharged Z28 that I bought with a blown head gasket. Pulled the motor on that and put in new bearings/rings/heads/gaskets...eventually sold that for also a large profit. The C5 I bought with a few problems but nothing major. I don't care if I don't look like your typical grease monkey, but I really do have a clue about cars and fabrication in general. Why are you even wasting our time responding in this thread?? I'm guessing because you don't have shit to contribute and just want to feel like you know something about cars but don't.

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 1:56 AM. Reason : so, what have you actually done...or do you just like to talk shit???]

10/5/2005 1:53:49 AM

vettes have huge engine bays, why not just put one there? I'm sure you could find some small block exhaust manuals to hack up and put turbo flanges on. A set of GT28RS's or GT30R's with t3 hot housings would work great on your car. atpturbo has a lot of odds and ends. I'd try to get parts from existing cars if you're trying to save money, like the intercooler from an 03 cobra/lightning, injectors from a cobra, 1g dsm BOV, and exhaust manifolds from a camaro or something.

10/5/2005 4:30:52 AM

You must not see too many C5s... I'm utterly unfamiliar with previous vettes, but the C5 engine comp. is quite cramped.

That said they make good power with other mods (kept NA), and you could always supercharge. The latter is what I would do.

PS: I'm supposed to drag (as in drive) an 11 sec. vette Thurs. It's the same color as yours, but different mods/wheels, etc.
Ahmet

10/5/2005 5:49:44 AM

Burns stainless

10/5/2005 9:25:32 AM

the engine bay looks like it has a decent amount of room but the problem is with height...everything has to stay ridiculously low to keep from hitting the stock hood. building headers to fit would be quite a task. i'll post some pics later on, bout to go take an exam tho so i dont have time right now. the rear mount was an idea since the current kit isn't even using an intercooler and is a hell of a lot simpler in terms of fabrication since you don't even have to build the headers.
this is the only pic i can find right now



[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 9:55 AM. Reason : more]

10/5/2005 9:50:48 AM

lock this shit

10/5/2005 9:58:33 AM

lol, nga plz

10/5/2005 10:04:31 AM

FI is overrated. do some nice N/A work and call it a day

10/5/2005 10:14:36 AM

disco potatoes are kinda pricey btw, he did imply a budget

JCWhitney usually has a decent assortment of mandrel bends in different sizes, but here's a site with somewhat of a selection

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/mandrelbends.htm

PS, turbo vette and sir-mix-a-lot mesh well

10/5/2005 10:20:11 AM

Im sure boostlogic, would sell you there exhaust manifolds from there tt kit. The rest should be cake. Disco potatos are to small. I would go with twin gt35r's

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 10:35 AM. Reason : ]

10/5/2005 10:32:56 AM

you'd run TWO 60+lbs/min turbos on stock 11:1 internals?

10/5/2005 11:15:05 AM

i've already got some nice heads sitting here ready to be put on, waiting till i pick up a cam though so i can do it all at once...and obviously cam selection will be pretty dependent on FI or NA

^^ andy over at A&A corvette in california is making some of the nicest headers for a C5 turbo setup I've ever seen...and he's planning to sell them seperately



[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 2:26 PM. Reason : pic]

10/5/2005 2:23:13 PM

http://www.ssautochrome.com

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 2:31 PM. Reason : located in durham somewhere]

10/5/2005 2:30:53 PM

Quote :

"does not look like a person that could fabricate an L bracket let alone a turbo kit"

you have to look a certain way to know anything about cars or fabricate? i guess i'm screwed too if you're not allowed to be clean cut and wear decent clothes.

10/5/2005 2:36:47 PM

^^^ wow that is close to those harnesses running along the fender

id wrap it up

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 2:37 PM. Reason : ^x3]

10/5/2005 2:37:37 PM

he's planning to... he also builds his own supercharger kits with procharger and paxton head units that are some of the best...comes out cheaper than the complete kits procharger sells and his make more boost/power with the same pulley's. anyways, my point being that he's been spending most of his time finishing up design of the paxton kit and hasn't finished the turbo setup yet

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 2:46 PM. Reason : asdf]

10/5/2005 2:44:13 PM

TC or SC on a car with 180k? you know your car, but i would imagine something would give soon...
i'd personally keep it as is with some minor mods, if you already dont have them...

10/5/2005 9:01:01 PM

I'm sorry but if i were to see him in person the first thing i would thinks .... great another metro

I'd be more expecting manicured hands than callused ones

but good for you i guess

but still nothing you have mentioned even remotely requires fabrication skills no pipe bending or welding involed with any of that but maybe you are planning on using thirty some v-band clamps

10/5/2005 9:37:11 PM

what kind of alternator is on that engine?

Boss?

where is a good place to get a alt. rewound?

10/6/2005 12:38:29 AM

Quote :

"TC or SC on a car with 180k? you know your car, but i would imagine something would give soon... i'd personally keep it as is with some minor mods, if you already dont have them... "

I have to get something else to drive before I do much to the vette since it is my only car right now, I'm looking for a cheap SUV now since their prices have dropped with the increase in gas prices. I've talked to a few tuners that have dealt with a lot of LS1's, they say the higher mileage ones they've torn down and done measurements on really aren't any different than most of the lower mileage ones and have little if any significant wear. I dunno, mine still put down 330rwhp which is higher than average for a stock LS1, so i think its in pretty good shape.

Anyways, at worst somethin'll break and I'll rebuild it with a forged bottom end...then it'll hold

10/6/2005 12:49:10 AM

Quote :

"you'd run TWO 60+lbs/min turbos on stock 11:1 internals? "

who said its staying stock?

Ps comp ratio is 10:1 Mr. know it all

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 12:53 AM. Reason : ]

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 12:54 AM. Reason : ]

10/6/2005 12:51:59 AM

exactly

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 12:52 AM. Reason : i can turn the boost down, fuck wasting money on small turbo's]

10/6/2005 12:52:28 AM

there was a bravada on craigslist for 1900

10/6/2005 1:16:55 AM

sorry I was a bit off on the compression ratio. I'm pretty sure some ls1's do run 11:1 or close to it(the later model camaros I believe). also, you have a lot to learn if you think you can just "run low boost" on a really big turbo and expect anything to run properly. the back pressure of the exhaust wheels on turbos that big is huge, and to not increase exhaust flow substantially by forcing enough boost to get the turbo into it's efficiency range back into the motor, you're doing yourself a disservice. a pair of GT30Rs is probably the biggest you'd want to go on that stock block, or maybe a rear mount gt37r/t51.

also, it's pretty safe to assume its going on stock block if a 6k turbo kit is a turn off.

10/6/2005 10:40:24 AM

Quote :

"where is a good place to get a alt. rewound?"

triangle alternator and starter on westgate rd., ask for lonnie.

Quote :

"I'm sorry but if i were to see him in person the first thing i would thinks .... great another metro I'd be more expecting manicured hands than callused ones but good for you i guess"

so what's your point? i never realized working on cars required a certain "look".

Quote :

"but still nothing you have mentioned even remotely requires fabrication skills no pipe bending or welding involed"

uh, building a custom exhaust/tubing system for a rear mount turbo requires no welding or pipe bending? interesting. it's also good to know pipe bending and welding are the only forms of fabrication out there

Quote :

"sorry I was a bit off on the compression ratio"

lol, that's more than a "bit".

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 1:46 PM. Reason : ,]

10/6/2005 1:45:54 PM

http://community.webshots.com/photo/469879418gSKLXd

there's my hand after doing the clutch job, not quite the manicure I usually have, sorry

10/6/2005 2:12:36 PM

Fast shipping and good cust service: http://racepartssolutions.com/

10/6/2005 2:52:22 PM

thanks, thats the best site i've came across so far I believe

10/6/2005 3:32:48 PM

Quote :

"stock block"

Who said hes using a stock block? Why assume I mean stock block? That would be halfass. I think the c5 z06's are 11 to 1 comp. Then again I go overboard with everything Ive had my supra for 9 months and it now has a greddy t78 kit, BL tranny, Precision industries 4k stall, sp fuel kit with 750cc injectors twin pumps etc etc, and all supporting mods. I get a little bit carried away, I guess I was thinking the same about the vette.

10/6/2005 4:41:22 PM

they figure becaues i dont want to drop $6K on a kit that hasnt actually been released yet that I wouldn't have the money to build a forged engine... go figure

10/6/2005 5:01:05 PM

why not just buy a built 383 stroker block, use your nice new heads, and sell your aging ls1? you can buy a 500+hp crate block from a ton of places for <$7k which is probably less than the cost of a rebuild and turbo setup.

10/6/2005 5:10:03 PM

Quote :

"why not just buy a built 383 stroker block, use your nice new heads, and sell your aging ls1? you can buy a 500+hp crate block from a ton of places for <$7k which is probably less than the cost of a rebuild and turbo setup."

But that wouldnt be as fun would it

10/6/2005 5:26:16 PM

down time for rebuilds is no fun either

*kicks his dsm..*

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 5:41 PM. Reason : but not too hard because he doesn't want it to break again ]

10/6/2005 5:41:34 PM

i dont know of any '500hp crate ls1's'. the ls1 block isn't the same as a standard sbc and i honestly don't think you have a fucking clue what you're talking about. you may have flipped thru a summit racing magazine a few too many times.

Quote :

"buy a 500+hp crate block "

short block, long block...wanna be more specific? hell, go ahead and find me one real quick while you're at it, thanks.

10/6/2005 5:46:18 PM

I was under the impression that a sbc was a sbc in terms of mounting points and cylinder spacing and such so that the heads and cams were interchangeable, and thats why ohv valvetrain parts were so cheap compared to their japanese, highly specialized counterparts.

here's one I found real quick. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?Ntt=383+crate&N=0&part=NAL%2D12498772&autoview=sku&Ntk=KeywordSearch not exactly 500hp, but its under $5000 and comes with heads. I know I've seen them with higher compression in short block form.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=WRL%2D101207&N=4294925232+4294918831+4294865822+4294908216+4294865821&autoview=sku

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SLE%2D12400&N=4294925232+4294918831+4294865822+4294908216+4294865821&autoview=sku


[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 6:04 PM. Reason : more, that say they specifically support LS1 setups]

here's one that even has an aluminum block
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SLE%2D12412&N=4294925232+4294918831+4294865822+4294908216+4294865821&autoview=sku

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 6:05 PM. Reason : d]

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 6:10 PM. Reason : d]

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 6:13 PM. Reason : damn the edits]

10/6/2005 5:59:00 PM

the last one is the only one that would work, and the ls2's are over-rated/priced and still takes some re-wiring to get all the computer stuff to work right..somebody is going to start making a wiring harness for it pretty soon but so far only a few ppl have put one in a c5. ls1/2/6/7 all use a different oil pump than the sbc..it mounts on the front and is turned by the crank instead of the shaft off of the cam like traditional sbc's. The intake ports are also different so heads are not interchangable from the sbc's or LT1's. The ports are tall and skinny compared to the traditional more circular ports. the sbc block also doesnt have anyway of mounting the crank/cam position sensors. regular sbc heads would most likely mount on to a lsX engine and the othre way around but it wouldn't exactly be very practical or useful.

edit: the second one would work also, my bad

Quote :

"here's one that even has an aluminum block"

i hope you knew the lsX engines coming in corvettes/camaros were all aluminium, as was the c5r block..there was another version of the exact same shape made of iron that was put into some of the big ass turbo'd chevy trucks, and is cheap as hell. that is the ideal way to go for a FI setup, not aluminum. (i think its the LQ9 used in that last link) most of those you can get cheaper tho by going straight thru the mfg's, or somebody other than summitt at least

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 6:15 PM. Reason : asdf]

[Edited on October 6, 2005 at 6:23 PM. Reason : asfd]

10/6/2005 6:14:16 PM

valve angles are a major difference between the LS series and SBC's (3rd gen vs 1st you might say)...SBC's use 23* heads std and the LS have 15* i believe...and i think the LS7 even dropped to 12*, not sure though

here's my pick though... put a cam in it and have fun with 650+n/a streetable hp

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/LS7-Crate-Engine-Small-Block-17802397-Coming-Fall-of-2005-P930C0.aspx

[Edited on October 7, 2005 at 10:04 PM. Reason : mmmmmm C5 427]

10/7/2005 10:01:42 PM

lol, if i were going to drop a 427 in it i sure as fuck wouldnt pay $14K for that. it is definetly nice, but there are cheaper/better ways to get that displacement/power

10/7/2005 10:24:08 PM