salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16898139%255E29277,00.html
Quote : | "Police 'had role in' Bali blasts
October 12, 2005
INDONESIAN police or military officers may have played a role in the 2002 Bali bombing, the country's former president, Abdurrahman Wahid has said.
In an interview with SBS's Dateline program to be aired tonight, on the third anniversary of the bombing that killed 202 people, Mr Wahid says he has grave concerns about links between Indonesian authorities and terrorist groups.
While he believed terrorists were involved in planting one of the Kuta night club bombs, the second, which destroyed Bali's Sari Club, had been organised by authorities.
Asked who he thought planted the second bomb, Mr Wahid said: "Maybe the police ... or the armed forces."
"The orders to do this or that came from within our armed forces, not from the fundamentalist people," he says.
The program also claims a key figure behind the formation of terror group Jemaah Islamiah was an Indonesian spy.
Former terrorist Umar Abduh, who is now a researcher and writer, told Dateline Indonesian authorities had a hand in many terror groups.
"There is not a single Islamic group either in the movement or the political groups that is not controlled by (Indonesian) intelligence," he said." |
Government behind another "terrorist" attack.
[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 1:26 PM. Reason : 1]10/12/2005 1:25:44 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
More like "Government" "behind" "another" "terrorist" "attack." 10/12/2005 1:39:45 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "INDONESIAN police or military officers may have played a role" |
so in addition to not knowing if police or military, he says they MAY have. nice concrete evidence. 10/12/2005 1:42:09 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "nice concrete evidence" |
No amount of evidence is good enough for people like you. You can't even connect the dots on 9/11 and see the obvious. No matter what, you will choose to believe the lies and propaganda coming from the government and mainstream media. It's more comfortable for you that way. The truth hurts and its easier to live a lie and believe a lie.10/12/2005 1:48:07 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
taco's don't really exist. 10/12/2005 1:49:58 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No amount of evidence is good enough for people like you." |
when i have tangible evidence that proves something then i will be convinced. when u post holeless, "maybe-this, maybe that" assumptions and ideas then that will not convince me nor any educated person. u can think what u want but i base my opinions on facts, not up-in-the-air maybes.10/12/2005 1:51:56 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You can't even connect the dots on 9/11 and see the obvious." |
you connected the dots alright, but instead of a sailboat, you've got a lot of intersecting lines.10/12/2005 2:17:42 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
no bous, not any more they don't
THANKS TO ANTI TACO LEGISLATION 10/12/2005 2:31:03 PM |
JK All American 6839 Posts user info edit post |
DISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM 10/12/2005 2:53:14 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
ps
"investigation"
is a role 10/12/2005 4:50:27 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
also don't forget
"instigation"
or
"target"
which can both be roles 10/12/2005 4:51:01 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be true.
indonesian police and military are known for their ruthlessness and the government for its opposition to any dissent or intellectual threat. the motive is there: to stifle islamic groups which the government sees as opponents.
everybody knows that 1,000 people were butchered by the indonesian military during the riots which erupted during the bid for freedom by east timor.
so, i wouldn't put it past them. 10/12/2005 8:16:07 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/171005accuseswest.htm
Quote : | "Indonesian President Accuses Western Intel Of Being Behind Bali Bombings
Free Market News | October 17 2005
An extraordinary documentary produced by Australian public television, "Inside Indonesia's War on Terrorism," will be rebroadcast again on Monday, October 17 at 1PM.
In the program which first aired on October 12, the blind, former President of Indonesia – reportedly more trusted than any other official in the country - told SBS-TV Date-Line, Australia’s state-run public TV, that the horrendous Bali bombing, which killed more than 200 in Indonesia, was planned and carried out by Indonesian police or military personnel at the behest of Western powers." |
10/17/2005 12:05:57 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.rense.com/general68/urgentnotice.htm
Quote : | "In this Documentary, which is describes as the world's most explosive expose of International Intelligence Agencies ops and cover-ups, the former President of Indonesia (who Australians describe as the only honest high-level Indonesian politician), disclosed that the Indonesian police or military are behind the Bali bombings. Also in this program, Indonesian journalists and researchers state, unequivocally, that 'Moslem terrorists organizations' DO NOT EXIST as portrayed by the government - that they are created and coordinated to act by military-connected provocateurs. They further claim that the Indonesian military is totally corrupt and that Generals and politicians are pocketing vast hordes of money they receive to 'fight terrorism' - 'terrorism' which, in fact, they are creating themselves. " |
10/17/2005 12:12:22 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
wtf?
hahahaha their most trusted official is an idiot.
oh, prisonplanet, that explains it, nevermind.
[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 12:13 PM. Reason : *] 10/17/2005 12:13:12 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, those western governments blew up their own kind of people on purpose.
Why?
To further a global agenda of waging wars for the creation of the new world order, of course.
Fuck you fakesteakboy. (Honestly, those types of allegations are disgusting.)
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[/excess hyphens] 10/17/2005 12:58:48 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/181005statecontrolled.htm
Quote : | "More Highly Credible Whistle Blowers Identifying Global 'Al-Qaeda' Terrorism as State Controlled
Looking back at the Bali bombing and new whistleblowers
Paul Joseph Watson | October 18 2005
During an interview for an Australian documentary, former Indonesian President Abdurrahman Wahid unequivocally fingered the Indonesian authorities as the true culprits behind the 2002 Bali bombings.
Wahid said the authorities were acting at the behest of Western intelligence agencies.
Other sources used for the documentary were adamant that there were no Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist groups in existence that were not controlled by intelligence agencies.
Indonesia has become renowned for rampant corruption and state involvement in terrorist atrocities. Sources told the film makers that government connected establishment figures are carrying out an agenda of depopulation in the targeted areas by lowering the value of property and resources, then buying it on the cheap.
The United States government had advance knowledge of the October 12 2002 Bali bombing. They passed that knowledge on to the Taiwanese government and told them to keep the information top secret.
Hours before the bombing took place, the US withdrew all its administrative staff and diplomats from Indonesia, citing a 'security threat'. The British government also received the same warning but this wasn't passed on to any relevant authority or the hundreds of victims carelessly making their way to a beach party.
The plastic explosives used in the attack were of military origin and were used primarily by the US military." |
10/18/2005 8:20:04 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
MAN. THAT JUST PROVES EVERYTHING YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE HOW BAD THE US GOV'T IS! oh wait... this is stupid fucking indonesia 10/18/2005 8:35:01 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Other sources used for the documentary were adamant that there were no Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist groups in existence that were not controlled by intelligence agencies. " |
10/18/2005 8:39:49 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
12/1/2005 3:53:42 PM |