UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
i'd take tommy even though both coaches suck >>>]10/29/2005 6:56:33 PM |
jimb0 All American 4667 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i'm sure bobby bowden has no idea how to coach college football. 10/29/2005 8:09:07 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
clemson's coach 10/29/2005 8:10:00 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
Nice reading comprehension. 10/29/2005 8:14:15 PM |
snowman All American 4751 Posts user info edit post |
Man boobs vs. "I'll tell my daddy" 10/29/2005 8:15:51 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
tommy bowden is a pussy 10/29/2005 8:17:39 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
id still take him over chuck 10/29/2005 8:19:14 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
why
what the fuck has he ever done except run an overrated program into the ground
oh wait 10/29/2005 8:21:53 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
yeah exactly 10/29/2005 8:24:26 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
seriously though
tommy bowden is not the answer to our problems 10/29/2005 8:25:35 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
oh im by no means saying that
i just think wed be in slightly better shape 10/29/2005 8:33:36 PM |
jimb0 All American 4667 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nice reading comprehension." |
oh well, it happens.10/30/2005 3:56:37 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
Since it's the middle of the summer and not there's not much in sports happening, how about this BLAST FROM THE PAST 7/21/2009 3:14:15 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
ill take chuck. Atleast al of his wins are legit 7/21/2009 3:19:20 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
how about bumping the MMA thread instead of some retarded ass random topic 7/21/2009 3:20:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
lol i wonder if jimb0 got suspended for his shitty reading comprehension 7/21/2009 3:29:45 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Bowden went, what 7-2 (could have been 8-2 had they let him coach the whole season) against South Carolina. If Amato would have been at least above .500 against UNC, things would be completely different for both UNC and NC State. First, let's just say the 2004 game had ended with the TD and we kick the PAT and win. We go to a bowl game, and UNC doesn't, as it was, UNC had an inkling of momentum and the heat on Amato began with that 5-6 season and a crucial "loss" to UNC. Who knows, TOB may have stayed at BC one more year and then come here, I don't know. Most likely, UNC would have fired Bunting after no bowl in 04 (which would have been 3 straight years with no bowl) and a huge charge for Spurrier would have been made, probably would have landed him over South Carolina. Don't let UNC fans kid you about not wanting Spurrier for whatever reason they throw at you, the hihg ups would have been all over it.
Bottom line, beating UNC goes a lot further with our fans than Clemson beating South Carolina. You can rag on Bowden all you want, but he owned South Carolina at 7-2, and one of the losses was on a Clemson missed FG under 40 yards. How many of us would take 8-4 every year beating UNC 7 out of our last 9, essentially 8 out of 10 with the fill in. Sign me up. 7/21/2009 3:44:31 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
^ bingo 7/21/2009 3:48:43 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
^^why cant you bring that type of knowledge to threads created AFTER 2005 7/21/2009 4:00:25 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah but Tammy had more talent and Clemson has always been the school for football in SC. They have always been better than SC, and by a wide margin at that. You can't say that about the UNC and State. They are both about the same, with UNC having a slight edge b/c of idiots that want to go there b/c Jordan went there. WTF indeed? Jordan didn't play football you idiots. That would be like if some kid went to Duke just b/c Grant Hill went there, or someone going to Penn State for basketball just b/c they idolized Joe Paterno. It really doesn't make any sense.
There's not much separating UNC and State, but there is a hell of a lot separating USC and CU. 7/21/2009 4:17:04 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
honestly, if you're not beating South Carolina while you're head coach of Clemson, you're not going to be head coach for long.
Tommy was, so all the pressure on him came in the form of ACC Championships and heightened expectations. He didn't "step down" because of our rival.
On the contrary, Bunting beat State when the heat was on, so it seemed, plus he did the whole "hand over the heart" during the alma mater after losing, which I think those things kept him around a little bit longer.
Chuck Amato was a no talent ass clown of a head coach who made excuses for losing by inches. If he had beaten UNC more, it still may not have been good enough to save his ass.
I can honestly say that 2004-2007 was the most frustrated football watching I've ever experienced. I sat through every game of Panthers 1-15 season, and we were just bad. But those years at NC State being a football fan were absolutely god awful because we took losing to a new art form by making the dumbest in game decisions ever (both players and coaches).
I'll never forget Amato's SURPRISE FAKE PUNT @ Wake Forest when we were down 8 points, with 1 minute or so left. Are. You. Kidding. Me. 7/21/2009 4:31:05 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Worst Chuck playcall ever was the time we put a couple of defensive linemen in at fullback and tailback at like the 50 yard line. 7/21/2009 5:26:14 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ICE
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simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i read like 15 posts before i realized this thread was four years old. 7/21/2009 6:08:17 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
No Ill take Tom O'brien, thanks anyway! 7/21/2009 6:58:24 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
Ill take his daughter, thanks!
Bowden's that is,
I don't know if TOB has a [hot] daughter?
[Edited on July 21, 2009 at 7:03 PM. Reason : ] 7/21/2009 7:03:01 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
ill take coach logan 7/21/2009 7:57:48 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of Coach Logan...what the hell happened with Steve Logan after he quit his position as Offensive Coordinator at BC. I always thought he was a hell of a coach and a class act guy! Anyone know the latest on him?? 7/22/2009 2:35:18 AM |