Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
There is no doubt that, since its inception, Marxism has influenced aspects of art and literature in the West.
Were there any directly Marxist works created prior to 1920 and the rise of Leninism (which eventually brought forth the Soviet art agenda)?
Or, perhaps, are the works we consider Marxist merely being represented as such through revisionist Marxist art history and literary criticism? 10/30/2005 6:47:34 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
this seems like a homework assignment in disguise 10/30/2005 7:07:15 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
nah... though it did arise from class discussions
this would be too simplistic of an assignment for my Art and Political Theory class... I just want the background info so I can speak intelligently in class 10/30/2005 7:14:03 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
10/30/2005 7:32:08 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
I'm thinking stuff like Malevich and Tatlin
10/30/2005 7:34:36 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
Akira Kurosawa was a marxist at one time 10/30/2005 8:09:28 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
marxism was very popular in Japan prior to the military takeover of the government in the early 1930s.
i dont know where to find any online, but prof. ambaras had some good examples of marxist art from early 20th century japan that i remember seeing.
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Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Marxist art? Wokka wokka wokka!
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10/30/2005 9:58:38 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
what about literature? 10/31/2005 10:13:53 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Right now I'm reading the novel Fathers and Sons by Ivan Turgenev. It deals with the birth of the inteligencia among the younger generations of the mid-1800s, many of which were the first Russian marxists. The main character is a Nihilist, but the novel is definately inspired by the influx of these new ideologies into Russia in the mid-1800s. 10/31/2005 11:06:58 AM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
i'll have to check the name but there's a great painting i saw while in rome by an italian artist...i'll check that when i get home 10/31/2005 11:49:25 AM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
awesome... thanks guys! 10/31/2005 12:09:21 PM |
THABIGL Suspended 618 Posts user info edit post |
i could post some pictures of dead people killed by your admired heroes for speaking out against the travesty of marxism
you people are either sheep or just stupid
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Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
who are my heros?
I've always liked this guy:
10/31/2005 3:45:51 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
jefferson was a dick
I've always been a fan of FDR 10/31/2005 8:43:11 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
is it really Marxist art?
or art putting forth marxist themes?
i mean you could have a marxist message breathing through neo-classism, but does that make it marxist art or neo-classism?
for example: there's really no difference in USA vs Nazi poster art in the 1940s stylewise 10/31/2005 8:48:57 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
i forgot to check my art book with all the kiddies coming last night...i'll remember at lunch 11/1/2005 9:35:38 AM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
everyone likes Jefferson
except commies like Kris 11/1/2005 9:40:14 AM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
^In Soviet Russia Jefferson hates you! 11/1/2005 9:49:47 AM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
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Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
and federalists 11/1/2005 11:29:06 AM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "is it really Marxist art?
or art putting forth marxist themes?
i mean you could have a marxist message breathing through neo-classism, but does that make it marxist art or neo-classism?" |
that's something I've been wondering
has Marxism been an artistic movement or simply a philosophy that informed many artists who worked in other styles?11/1/2005 1:12:38 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "These works, in Malevich’s words, attempt to “free art from the burden of object.” Through this non-objective approach these works separate themselves from the representational burden of earlier styles by avoiding the class associations related to certain imagery. The reduction of art to geometric simplicity purges art of bourgeois, indeed all, political influence. " |
I'm writing about suprematism from a Marxist perspective... I guess this is my thesis11/1/2005 4:24:43 PM |