Hey, I am gonna try and run 220 to my dads garage this weekend, I know what to do however have never done it before so my dad wants someone who has done it before to help and he'll give you some cash. Only problem is his house is in Mooresville (right off exit 33 of I77) so if anyone from that area is going back home this weekend and wants to make a little cash I need the help.
Thanks

11/1/2005 3:47:06 PM

I'm heading there for the weekend to winterize the boat, but won't be able to help all weekend. If you need a ride though pm me.

11/1/2005 3:50:52 PM

i don't think you're car can get up to 220... even if you did, you'd probably not have enough room in the garage to get it going that fast...

11/1/2005 3:56:21 PM

Yea I should probably clarify, 220 volt outlet . . .

by the way my Z71 only does 98 max with the 35's and 4.88 gears

Thanks for the offer on the ride though but I got one already.

by the way we plan on riggin it up fri afternoon/night weather or not somebody wants to help

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 4:08 PM. Reason : edit]

11/1/2005 4:06:59 PM

btw here's the plan:

Flip the main breaker off, put a spliter box on the range power line and run the extra line out to the garage through an existing hole in the wall, and stick a plug box on the end.

Would go from the breaker box but its in the waaay oposite corner of the house.

11/1/2005 5:21:13 PM

yo ricky,

take pics of house on fire, kk?

11/1/2005 5:53:35 PM

Yeah that's a bad idea, in a hot, burn the palce down kind of way.

You need to add a new breaker in the panel and run that to the garage. That or run a subpanel feed to the garage from the main panel.

11/1/2005 6:18:31 PM

if you have to ask you should hire someone

11/1/2005 6:27:54 PM

if u dont like answer in one place try again right ricky?
http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5619

11/1/2005 6:36:49 PM

Quote :

"You need to add a new breaker in the panel and run that to the garage. That or run a subpanel feed to the garage from the main panel. "

and I'm all for doing shit myself instead of hiring somebody...but

Quote :

"if you have to ask you should hire someone"

isn't a bad idea. i'd probably try it myself after some research, but make sure you at least have breakers or fuses of some type in the right places so your mistakes wont burn down the place, seriously

11/1/2005 6:38:35 PM

^^ or try 20 times in the same place first.... hahahahaha

11/1/2005 7:19:30 PM

http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5688

i like the insurance idea too

11/1/2005 7:27:25 PM

Aight Aight, I get the point, I seriously have a friend who has his done the same way succesfully though.

11/1/2005 7:49:27 PM

can we get insurance on both places then. odds are we will win on one.

11/1/2005 7:53:58 PM

lol

11/1/2005 7:55:11 PM

Just because "it work for my friend" doen't mean

1) you fully understand how he did it
2) you can rig it the exact same way
3) that his set up isn't a ticking time bomb

Did he tell you what gauge wire he used? How he made the connections in the junction box? The proper size box? The supply voltage to his main panel, 100 amp 200 amp? How big his welder is and its current draw, both constant and peak?

There are so many ways you can mess this up in a really bad way, even if it "works" at first. 220/240 is nothing to mes around with. And I am not simply talking out of my ass here, I was a journeyman for almost a yr

11/1/2005 7:56:32 PM

Yea, your right i don't know the answer to any of your questions and i get the point everyone is trying to convey, i guess well just have to fork over the ridiculous price to get an electritian, damn highway robbery paying them.

11/1/2005 8:00:45 PM

theres a reason those guys charge a lot

they know what they are doing

11/1/2005 8:04:06 PM

Yea I know, I'm the same about anything though, I absolutly hate paying somebody to do something I could have done myself, It reeeeeeeealy ticks me off, but oh well thats how s*** works.

11/1/2005 8:05:35 PM

Your plan would prolly work, but its not how I would do it. You would be tripping the breaker everytime you tried to use the oven and welder at the same time.


But my first question to you is what experience do you have with doing wiring?
The next would be what gauge wire you are running to the garage and what is currently running to the range?
Is there any slack in the wire that is going to the range? if not then it makes it a little difficult to put a splitter box in the line somewhere.


The best bet if you don't know what your doing, which it doesnt sound like you do, is to get someone who does. Be it an electrician or not.

And if you do do it yourself, the best bet would be to go from the main breaker box (the outside one) to the garage. But this most likely requires more wire, which is kinda pricey at lower gauges.

11/1/2005 8:16:05 PM

No experience, I was just gonna go to lowes and get them to tell me what I needed, anyway, like I said I'm just gonna have to fork over for an electritian

11/1/2005 8:35:39 PM

^ hahahahahaha, i spend half my time in lowes and homo depot explaining to confused people what to do after they talk to a high school, ex-burger flipping "expert". lowes guy swore up and down to some dude that you could not backfeed a house from a 4 prong 240 volt generator thourgh a 3 prong dryer outlet. i straight up told the guy to quit blowin smoke up the dudes ass because i have done it many times and it is completly safe if done correctly the only difference is a 4 prong has a bonding ground and nuetral and a 3 prong only has a nuetral.

but anyway getting back to your situation, depending on the length of the run and power demands, i would run no less than a 6, preferabbly a 4 or 2 guage wire from you MAIN feed panel, be it a 100, 150 or 200 amp panel, with a 40, 50 or 60 amp breaker for for garage feed depending on your wire size, feeding a sub panel in your garage, which smaller >100amp panel with 10-20 breakers can be had for less than $100. then you can branch all your necessary circuits off of there, be it 120 or 240, with correct wire and breaker sizes. and i dont feel like looking the code up specifically, but the best i can remember, you can only have one branch circuit feeding a detached building, such as a shed, boat dock, etc., with a dedicated breaker, without being required to have a subpanel. you can expect the most expensive part to be your feed cable, anywhere from $1.50to $3 a foot for copper and more for aluminum

pm me or post all the specifics, run length from the main panel to the garage, load demands for the garage (lights, air compressor, bench grinders, etc.), any other concerns (going through under concrete walkways, foundations, difficult walls etc.) and a general layout of everything and i can tell you exactly what you need and what you need to do. i hate seeing people do things half ass and dangerously when it is so easy to do it right.

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 9:35 PM. Reason : ]

11/1/2005 9:33:00 PM

I think your looking at it too deeply. It sounds like it is an attached garage and all he wants to do is put a 220 outlet in the garage to hook a welder to. So there would be no need for a subpanel. Just feed the single outlet with a 30 or 40 amp breaker from the main breaker box.



His shortcut to do so is to just jump off of the wire for the range.

11/1/2005 11:04:29 PM

HIRE A FAWKING ELECTRICIAN.

11/1/2005 11:04:34 PM

Bigblueram: I ALREADY SAID I WAS GOING TO ABOVE

69: thanks for all the info man, but yea i'm just gonna have to get an electritian to come do it, cause i don't know if I mentioned it here but due to the fact that we have a pool we don't have any more room at either of our two boxes left so the electritain that gave us a quote said we'd have to get another put in. Oh well, thanks, but I'm just gonna have to save up to get an electritian.

11/1/2005 11:32:04 PM

don't be a fuckin sally, splice an old extension-cord into the range whip and fire her up

11/2/2005 12:39:09 AM