need to download some shows..
safe to use them on campus?

11/1/2005 5:41:34 PM

google: peer guardian

11/1/2005 5:47:10 PM

so how many college students country wide have been caught?

now for some division....

11/1/2005 5:53:44 PM

according to a study by Wired magazine, 40% of internet traffic is through bittorrents

half of it being porn, the other half being movies/tv shows

11/1/2005 5:55:33 PM

if you are affraid of getting caught you could always...










...buy your shit.

11/1/2005 5:55:49 PM

^^half aint porn

but yea...torrents are probably at least 30 percent

i question how they would get these numbers

11/1/2005 5:58:49 PM

^ you're right, their analysis is wrong. you win

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 5:59 PM. Reason : their]

11/1/2005 5:59:29 PM

so with peerguardian..its safe?

11/1/2005 5:59:48 PM

if we tell you it's safe no matter what will it matter - just go download and go to jail

11/1/2005 6:03:04 PM

going to jail?

im sorry you must not understand the laws correctly

they can FINE, but not take you to jail

11/1/2005 6:05:03 PM

yes. they can't take you to jail for illegal activities. you're right.

11/1/2005 6:07:00 PM

is it $250,000 and/or 5 years in jail for piracy?

11/1/2005 6:08:16 PM

yes. they can't take you to jail for illegal activities. you're right.

11/1/2005 6:08:49 PM

haha you seriously need to do some research, buddy

Quote :

"is it $250,000 and/or 5 years in jail for piracy?"

show me a single case of someone going ot jail over bittorrent.

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 6:10 PM. Reason : dare you]

11/1/2005 6:08:53 PM

Quote :

"they can FINE, but not take you to jail"

they will most likely FINE, but can take you to jail

11/1/2005 6:11:40 PM

i'm willing to bet i have more experience with people being arrested due to piracy - and yes it's more rare than a fine - but it does happen

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 6:15 PM. Reason : hell - a regular tww poster did time for it]

11/1/2005 6:13:29 PM

they executed a guy in Malaysia for mass-duplicating DVDs

and burnt his family alive

11/1/2005 6:13:31 PM

im pretty sure you have to do more than just download a couple of torrents to go to jail.

like downloading mass amounts of DVD's and selling them online.

11/1/2005 6:16:28 PM

you might be suprised what it takes

11/1/2005 6:18:01 PM

I got a warning letter last semester about bittorrent usage but nothing ever came of it. I've dropped the habit, though, just to be safe.

11/1/2005 6:20:56 PM

I don't use BitTorent at all.

I think it's use should be banned in apartment complexes...I mean isn't bandwidth sharing a co-operative responsiblity?

11/1/2005 6:22:43 PM

^^how often were you using it? as in how much stuff were you downloading

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 6:23 PM. Reason : ]

11/1/2005 6:22:51 PM

it wasn't that I was using it a lot, it was that I downloaded something that MPAA was apparently tracking.

Got a nice little email from someone on campus responsible for dealing w/ this.
Did the whole "hallelujah, I'm a changed man" song and dance.
Didn't hear any more from them, but I'm not planning on trying my luck again.

11/1/2005 6:26:56 PM

they are threatening civil lawsuits
not criminal

11/1/2005 6:34:19 PM

who is they - you aren't inferring that only 1 group is going after people that pirate are you?

11/1/2005 6:35:26 PM

99.99%

11/1/2005 6:36:18 PM

that's like saying 99.99% of people that get caught for drugs only get a fine b/c the people that get caught with everyday shit are much more numerous than the ones that get caught at the higher up level - thus we can conclude that almost all people that get arrested for drugs just pay a fine

11/1/2005 6:38:07 PM

Quote :

"they are threatening civil lawsuits not criminal"

thats what i was trying to convey to them

in the US, anyway - if you are in southeast asia or china, you might spend the rest of your life in jail

11/1/2005 6:38:48 PM

All I have to say is that if you really gotta pirate media...why not just go the traditional route and make copies of already pirated media...using BitTorent is such a drag on my bandwidth.

11/1/2005 6:40:38 PM

a lot of things arent even released in the US (movies, certain tv shows, etc)

11/1/2005 6:43:53 PM

that's a weak excuse

11/1/2005 6:45:11 PM

weak excuse? pretty valid if you see my bittorrent list

11/1/2005 6:47:26 PM

i have to agree w/ DoubleDown on this one. I used bittorrent to pirate some shit in my time, but it's also how I usually wind up getting my ISOs for any linux distro I want to test out.

I could use a ftp server and be at the mercy of 1 server (or x # of mirrors) or use a distributed setup like bittorrent. For a 700 meg download, guess which I'd prefer?

11/1/2005 6:53:19 PM

In the case of Linux ISOs, I doubt any BitTorrent seed could be faster than a local mirror...especially when you wanna download Redhat/Fedora.

11/1/2005 6:56:18 PM

and in the case of smaller distros not mirrored around here? Or not-so-small distros in the same situation? Knoppix being my case in point. I'll admit I didn't actually try the VA server they offer, but I remember getting good results from their bittorrent download.

For the most part, all I'm really saying is that they both have their uses.

11/1/2005 7:00:26 PM

Quote :

"show me a single case of someone going ot jail over bittorrent. "

torrent, kaza, p2p, your momma. I don't care what you want to call it. Its piracy and carries the same penalty.

11/1/2005 7:01:38 PM

look

I am all about P2P for legal purposes but your BitTorrent kills my neighborhood connection.

11/1/2005 7:01:45 PM

Quote :

"haha you seriously need to do some research, buddy Quote : "is it $250,000 and/or 5 years in jail for piracy?" show me a single case of someone going ot jail over bittorrent. [Edited on November 1, 2005 at 6:10 PM. Reason : dare you"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/07/tech/main678670.shtml

PWNT

if reading isn't your thing i can highlight the parts with his sentence. it was only the first link on google so there could be others *shrug*

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 7:04 PM. Reason : fda]

11/1/2005 7:03:11 PM

Quote :

" The FBI found more than $50 million in music and movies on Dhaliwal's computer. The illegally copied property included movies that, at the time of the theft, were available only in theaters. They included "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind," "Matrix Revolutions," "The Cat In The Hat," and "Mona Lisa Smile." "

What a waste.

11/1/2005 7:05:28 PM

haha i know who this mf is

11/1/2005 7:06:11 PM

thats probably why they gave him a light sentence. cause he has bad taste.

11/1/2005 7:06:13 PM

"The FBI found more than $50 million in music and movies on Dhaliwal's computer."

HOLY SHIT!


and he's indian...bet his parents want to burn him alive.

11/1/2005 7:07:09 PM

it seems i just had a conversation about torrnets with someone the other day.......

man too bad i'm a dumbass and cant remember

11/1/2005 7:08:11 PM

its funny, the majority of the shoplifters we picked up back when i used to work at best buy were indian. and by majority i mean we had at least 1 a week

11/1/2005 7:08:19 PM

^are you serious??

11/1/2005 7:09:05 PM

yes

11/1/2005 7:09:15 PM

Quote :

"Under an agreement with prosecutors, Dhaliwal was sentenced last month to a three-month deferred jail sentence, three years of probation, 200 hours of community service and a $5,400 fine. The judge in the case also ordered him to take a copyright class at the University of Arizona, which he attends, and to avoid file-sharing computer programs. "

wheres the jail yo

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 7:10 PM. Reason : PS. All your stories have to do with Best Buy]

11/1/2005 7:09:16 PM

that's news to me...I thought the Indians here were by and large well off...

are you sure you didn't confuse some Pakistani/middle Eastern dude as being an Indian?

11/1/2005 7:09:39 PM

three-month deferred jail sentence

deferred or not its sitll jail time for something you claim cannot be given. and because A) his age and B) state not federal court he didn't have a worse sentence.

^the bobbing of their parents heads when they came in to pick up the rif raf is unmistakable for inidan. sorry dude.

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 7:10 PM. Reason : fda]

11/1/2005 7:10:07 PM

^^^ eh, I wouldn't argue it, man. It was jail time as part of the sentence, even if it was suspended to go 'easy' on the kid.

11/1/2005 7:11:12 PM