http://www.live.com
http://safety.live.com
http://ideas.live.com
http://favorites.live.com - i've been looking for a good online favorites manager.

well how bout that... looks a lot more like their aim is at google...

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 11:17 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2005 11:15:38 PM

it's an online web application, how is that not technical, personally i find it impressive what microsoft and google can do through technologies such as RSS and Asynchronous JavaScript and XML..

here's an example of what it can do all activated by an Active-X control and is all initiated online:
Virus Scan
Disk Cleanup Scan
Disk fragmentation Scan
Open Ports Scan

see also: http://www.microsoft.com/office/officelive/default.mspx

this is all going to be incorporated into office 12 and windows vista


[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 11:44 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2005 11:35:07 PM

Quote :

"Firefox support is coming soon. Please be patient :-)"

interesting

11/1/2005 11:40:48 PM

how is this better than a personalized google.com homepage?

11/2/2005 9:48:49 AM

the interface is a little cleaner and theres definately more expandibility with the gadgets.

my yahoo has them completely whipped for content right now though.

11/2/2005 11:37:46 AM

Ok, let's start over (mostly).

If you want to discuss the topic, feel free to post.

If you just want to crap a thread because it's not technical enough for you, go to chit chat. This thread is just as valid as any other thread in tech talk.

11/2/2005 12:35:43 PM

gg bobby

it's a start. we'll see where they go with it

11/2/2005 12:37:11 PM

is this the same thing as windows onecare live?

11/2/2005 1:19:44 PM

the one big thing you lose switching from google/ig to live is your gmail access...thats good if you use hotmail instead of gmail but who does that?

11/2/2005 1:51:53 PM

11/2/2005 1:52:47 PM

thing is though, someone could probably write a gadget for live to view your gmail (or other webmail) account. You cant do that with google.com/ig

11/2/2005 2:57:59 PM

i haven't seriously used hotmail in years. i switched to outlook a few years back for ncsu imap and now i use it at work. for personal stuff i've slowly been using gmail more in the last year or so. it might be interesting to try a new hotmail address

11/2/2005 2:59:04 PM

Quote :

"is this the same thing as windows onecare live?"

OneCare Live is one part of this.

I remember seeing a couple articles talking about Microsoft's beta webmail being much improved. I use a yahoo address for my generic subscription and registration stuff because its done great at filtering junk mail and things like my fantasy sports leagues and discussion groups are all through Yahoo (making it easy for central access)

11/2/2005 3:12:07 PM

Quote :

"This thread is just as valid as any other thread in tech talk."

Aren't you the only mod who has locked more threads then sparky?

11/2/2005 3:38:07 PM

when i tried it at work today the header loaded in IE but nothing else on the page loaded and there were a lot of JS errors. And it all loaded, but didn't render correctly in FireFox.

Joel Spolsky confirms he has problems with IE too and isn't terribly impressed overall with this half-product
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2005/11/02.html

11/2/2005 3:43:32 PM

Quote :

"i've been looking for a good online favorites manager."

Portable Firefox is the best, run firefox from a usb key with all ur bookmarks and extensions
http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_firefox/

11/2/2005 4:35:53 PM

http://www.googleityoumoron.com/

11/2/2005 6:46:46 PM

11/2/2005 6:49:17 PM

here's screens of the launch event:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/niallkennedy/sets/1269791/
obviously they have a lot to figure out yet

i am more facinated with the larger overall scope of this. i remember reading about it 4-5 years ago about how computers of the 'future' are basically going to be terminals where all your information is online and all your software will be subscription based, i doubt this will become universal but this is a step in that direction, the biggest hurdle imho: privacy

[Edited on November 2, 2005 at 9:38 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2005 9:37:23 PM

Quote :

"about how computers of the 'future' are basically going to be terminals"

EL OH FUCKING EL

-IBM

[Edited on November 2, 2005 at 10:28 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2005 10:28:04 PM

terminals to what?

11/2/2005 10:32:02 PM

And his biggest roadblock is privacy.

I suppose in this future, fiber lines to every room right?

11/2/2005 10:34:19 PM

omg privacy


I thought we had keys

11/2/2005 10:35:08 PM

No dude.

Tokens.

For the Ring.


OH WAIT. NEW IDEA

11/2/2005 10:36:18 PM

you have all your emails on a friggin email server on the Internet.

What's more of a security concern than that?

11/2/2005 10:38:24 PM

i didn't say it was my biggest roadblock, i thought it was the biggest hurdle for * to overcome with the general public, look at the concern and hype over google web accelerator and google desktop as well as gmail when it first came out

see:
http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22google+web+accelerator%22+privacy+concerns+OR+fears&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?&q=gmail+privacy+concerns+OR+fears&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22google+desktop%22+privacy+concerns+OR+fears&btnG=Search

[Edited on November 2, 2005 at 11:02 PM. Reason : good lord people you need to get out and read more]

from 2001: http://www.usatoday.com/money/covers/2001-07-20-bcovfri.htm

Quote :

"Say goodbye to the personal computing era. Just on the horizon is the era that comes next — the personal information era."

Quote :

"PI will change how you use software and the Internet. It will change what computers you buy, or don't. It will raise very difficult issues about privacy, especially as you create a mirror version of yourself on the network. Privacy problems in the PI era will be "the equivalent of air pollution in the first industrial revolution," says technology author Larry Downes."

Quote :

"If your data and applications can come in from the Net, in theory you should be able to sit down at any computer hooked to the Internet and immediately make it your computer. As the industry gets better at creating applications that mutate to work in any device, you should be able to turn any cell phone, handheld, kiosk, car computer, video-game console or any other computing device into a modified version of your computer. Just go on the Net, connect to where your stuff is, identify yourself and, voilà, you're up and running. Then, you might not need a computer at all."

[Edited on November 2, 2005 at 11:23 PM. Reason : links/quotes]

11/2/2005 10:59:36 PM

Well I guess this will make IBM happy.

More $profit for its mainframe business thats been going on since oh...the mid fifties.

11/3/2005 6:56:14 PM