btmagician13 All American 760 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone out there know what goes into applying for a permit??? Can you give me some details on this. Thanks 11/9/2005 1:06:24 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
did you try searching other threads for this topic 11/9/2005 1:07:52 PM |
jgibelttil All American 7565 Posts user info edit post |
you take a class (costs a lil bit of $$) you submit documentation that you took the class you submit proper form and more $$$
you wait like 30-90 days
you get a call about it and go pick it up
[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 1:09 PM. Reason : oh and you can buy guns without waiting once you have the permit ] 11/9/2005 1:08:06 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Talk to a local gun shop. They usually have information on where you can go to take a concealed carry class. Be warned, the whole process can cost upwards of $200, I wound up paying about $180 for mine. 11/9/2005 1:14:47 PM |
jgibelttil All American 7565 Posts user info edit post |
holy shit man
def don't cost that much
i paid like 130 tops 11/9/2005 1:15:44 PM |
colter All American 8022 Posts user info edit post |
take the class at one of the local gunshops ranges like $100 plus ammo
apply for permit upstairs at the wake county sheriff's office downtown, across from the courthouse. its $80, plus $10 for two sets of fingerprints, which get done there too.
wait- I forget how long it takes
get permit- just go to the sheriffs office and they give you all the info you need
[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 3:24 PM. Reason : -] 11/9/2005 3:24:22 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
a couple of my buddies did it. they said you learn a lot of cool stuff/info/facts in the class. they were always telling me some stuff they learned that may not be common knowledge... then they did the "field" part of the class where you shoot a target... and they said you can't fail it unless you are really trying to fail it. 11/9/2005 3:54:06 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
so other than pretending you're a secret agent, what exactly is the practical purpose of carrying a gun? 11/9/2005 4:14:51 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
wheres a good place for an intro handgun class for someone without any knowledge and how much would it cost 11/9/2005 4:16:34 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
even if you have a concealed permit you still can't carry a gun anywhere
for example you can't take the gun: -anyplace that has a sign posted that says no concealed weapons -any place that sells alcohol for consumption...so most restaurants -schools (duh) -any place where you need a ticket for admission (movies, concerts, etc...) -any law enforcement or correctional facility -any place occupied by state or federal employees -financial institutions -areas of assembly, funerals, demonstrations, parades, assemblies 11/9/2005 4:26:14 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i didnt think putting up a sign automatically meant you couldnt carry i dont know, i just remember someone saying that who did 11/9/2005 4:27:47 PM |
KartRaceKid All American 2937 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.davisguns.com
They'll hook ya up 11/9/2005 4:28:07 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
this pdf has all you need to know.... page 13 of the PDF file tells how to get a concealed carry permit http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf
keep reading and it tells where you cannot take the gun... one of them says, any premises, except state owned rest areas or stops along the highways, where notice that carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited by the posting of a conspicuous notice or statement by the person in legal possession or control of the premises. 11/9/2005 4:31:12 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "even if you have a concealed permit you still can't carry a gun anywhere" |
exactly...most places it would be useful to be armed.
i still might get mine for ease of transport, though.11/9/2005 4:54:04 PM |
omghax All American 2777 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty much what everyone else said. Mine was:
$80 - Class at PDHSC $10 - Fingerprints downtown $70 - Permit application
2 weeks later, I got a phone call saying my permit was ready for pickup. Roommate also got his just as quickly. 11/9/2005 4:56:18 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
2 weeks is quickly? guess i'm spoiled by the technological age 11/9/2005 5:23:28 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
it took my friend's almost a month...he called after the 2 weeks and they said they were backed up...took a while
[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 5:30 PM. Reason : ya] 11/9/2005 5:30:18 PM |
NCSUDiver All American 1829 Posts user info edit post |
Took me 2 weeks in Wake county, but it took my bf 5 months in New Hanover, because they kept losing pieces of his paperwork. 11/9/2005 5:53:38 PM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
I want to get the License to teach the class. I figure it'd be a good way to make a few extra bucks and there seems to be some demand for it... anybody have a clue where I could get info on that? 11/9/2005 6:30:38 PM |
omghax All American 2777 Posts user info edit post |
It's on the Attorney General website. 11/9/2005 6:31:45 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
don't go to Davi's. way overpriced.
http://www.pdhsc.com we've bought 2 guns from them and they rock.
also walmart has a brochure at the sporting good counter about it usually.
[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 6:36 PM. Reason : ] 11/9/2005 6:35:55 PM |
quacko All American 850 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.fta-ccw.com/
that's the company where me and a buddy took our class pretty good guys
I think I've seen their pamphlets in wal-marts around here 11/9/2005 6:46:52 PM |
ImYoPusha All American 6249 Posts user info edit post |
omg whoever consults Tdub above any other website on the intarweb does not need a gun.
Furthermore, man the fuck up and tuck that shit in your pants. You dont need a fuckin CC permit. Just dont be stupid with it. 11/9/2005 7:14:30 PM |
CaptainBF Terminated 2633 Posts user info edit post |
Can you take the class before you are 21? 11/9/2005 11:03:46 PM |
dgillenman Starting Lineup 91 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wheres a good place for an intro handgun class for someone without any knowledge and how much would it cost" |
Jon, the Wake County Firearms Training and Education Center is working on offering a range (no pun intended) of classes. I'm not sure when they will begin offering them or how much they will cost though.
Looks like PDHSC also offers classes, but I have no experience with them.
http://www.pdhsc.com/class_schedule.htm11/9/2005 11:11:02 PM |
NCSUDiver All American 1829 Posts user info edit post |
^^I took the class before I was 21. I believe its up to the place teaching the class as to whether they let you. 11/9/2005 11:25:22 PM |
CaptainBF Terminated 2633 Posts user info edit post |
Where did you take it? 11/9/2005 11:55:39 PM |
omghax All American 2777 Posts user info edit post |
PDHSC also allows you to take it before you turn 21. 11/10/2005 12:31:21 AM |
CaptainBF Terminated 2633 Posts user info edit post |
aw hell yeah 11/10/2005 12:32:48 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
if they already have your fingerprints do you have to pay again? 11/10/2005 12:34:05 AM |
NCSUDiver All American 1829 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ I took it at Shooters Choice in Wilmington, so that probably doesn't help you much. 11/10/2005 8:41:13 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "man the fuck up and tuck that shit in your pants. You dont need a fuckin CC permit. Just dont be stupid with it." |
Uh, WRONG. You need a CC permit for ANY type of concealment, including if the weapon is tucked into your pants and beneath your shirt. By North Carolina law, if the weapon is within an arm's reach and not in visible sight, it is concealed. If a weapon is concealed and you do not have a permit, it is illegal to carry it concealed. Hell, even if you have a permit you still cannot legally conceal the weapon unless you also have the permit with you.
In conclusion, ImYoPusha, it is you who does not need a gun. You should also probably do the rest of us a favor and get off of the "intarweb."11/10/2005 8:55:11 AM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
someone's sarcasm detector is broken. 11/10/2005 9:26:46 AM |
ImYoPusha All American 6249 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Uh, WRONG. You need a CC permit for ANY type of concealment, including if the weapon is tucked into your pants and beneath your shirt. By North Carolina law, if the weapon is within an arm's reach and not in visible sight, it is concealed. If a weapon is concealed and you do not have a permit, it is illegal to carry it concealed. Hell, even if you have a permit you still cannot legally conceal the weapon unless you also have the permit with you." |
gg there sleuth
Quote : | "In conclusion, ImYoPusha, it is you who does not need a gun. You should also probably do the rest of us a favor and get off of the "intarweb."" |
bitch, I WILL OUT SHOOT YOU ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
In conclusion, umbrellawoman, it is you who needs to understand that this is the internet. And regardless of how much better you feel about yourself after googling some gun laws, and quoting them on TWW, you still suck at life. You should also probably do the rest of us a favor and kill yourself.
kkthx11/10/2005 10:01:29 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i'm still waiting for someone to tell me the point of carrying a gun in the first place 11/10/2005 10:11:35 AM |
Douche Bag Fcuk you 4865 Posts user info edit post |
b/c it gives that person a sense of security and can be used for self defense 11/10/2005 10:25:15 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
so if someone tries to mug you, are you legally allowed to shoot to kill? 11/10/2005 10:27:45 AM |
Douche Bag Fcuk you 4865 Posts user info edit post |
i'm 6'5" 265 pounds, but i keep my handgun in the glovebox and one near my bed 11/10/2005 10:27:55 AM |
Douche Bag Fcuk you 4865 Posts user info edit post |
you can legally shoot to kill if he poses an immediate threat to your health and he isn't in the process of running away...must be self defense...if he's taken ur wallet and is running away, he's no longer a threat and then it would be no, but if he is in ur face w/ a knife or walkin up with a knife saying give me your money, human target practice
in the 2nd situation...insert the quote "never bring a knife to a gun fight", then pull the trigger
[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 10:29 AM. Reason : spelling] 11/10/2005 10:29:15 AM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
my friends that took the concealed carry class said the instructor told them.. not to pull the gun out unless you plan to use it. if you aren't going to use it, don't pull it out. in addition, there is no such thing as a warning shot, never fire a "warning shot"...b/c you've already shot the gun in the eyes of the law 11/10/2005 10:29:20 AM |
Douche Bag Fcuk you 4865 Posts user info edit post |
my warning shot is in the knee, then goes to the chest or head...gun in my car has a laser mounted on it...so after he's shot in the knee and sees a dot on his head or chest, i think he'll get the message 11/10/2005 10:30:42 AM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
yeah that's ok. i'm saying don't fire a warning shot into the air or something... 11/10/2005 10:31:11 AM |
Douche Bag Fcuk you 4865 Posts user info edit post |
u don't need a concealed permit to realize that 11/10/2005 10:34:06 AM |
quacko All American 850 Posts user info edit post |
an intentional shot to the knee will get you a nice lawsuit
with the reasoning being, if you didnt need to use deadly force, you shouldnt have been shooting at all the person shot could successfully argue that he posed no threat to life, and the shot in the knee proves it 11/10/2005 10:40:13 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bitch, I WILL OUT SHOOT YOU ANY DAY OF THE WEEK." |
Good comeback. I'm so scared.
Quote : | "In conclusion, umbrellawoman, it is you who needs to understand that this is the internet." |
What does this have to do with anything?
Quote : | "And regardless of how much better you feel about yourself after googling some gun laws, and quoting them on TWW..." |
I didn't google them. This wasn't a simple matter of "find the first search result, copy/paste all the text I find and then stroke my e-cock." As a CC permit owner, I have to actually be familiar with the laws governing CC. I've already had a class on the various laws and, while I can't recite every last statute number from memory, I've learned pretty much what every law is about.
Quote : | "...you still suck at life. You should also probably do the rest of us a favor and kill yourself." |
I'd agree, if not for the fact that I DON'T suck at life.
You're welcome.
Quote : | "someone's sarcasm detector is broken." |
Alright, if this is the case then I'm sorry.
Quote : | "an intentional shot to the knee will get you a nice lawsuit" |
I'm afraid that he's right. I think the reasoning is more along the lines of "if you had time to line up the shot on a target as small as the knee cap, you weren't in imminent danger," but quacko is basically right.
[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:54 AM. Reason : asdf]11/10/2005 11:53:32 AM |
Douche Bag Fcuk you 4865 Posts user info edit post |
if u qualify for the concealed permit, u had to pass a shooting test, part of which u draw ur weapon from a holster and have to get off X amount of shots in X amount of time...this would prove that u can draw, aim, and fire accurately in a timely manner...needless to say, if i have a laser on the gun that is tuned, i don't have much aiming to do...
shot to the knee is if he's approaching me w/ a weapon out and has threatened me...if he was closer or able to attack, i'd killhim.
i'd rather be judged by twelve then carried by six
[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 12:10 PM. Reason : ] 11/10/2005 12:09:44 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if u qualify for the concealed permit, u had to pass a shooting test, part of which u draw ur weapon from a holster and have to get off X amount of shots in X amount of time..." |
Rly? For my shooting test I didn't have to draw. We only had to aim and shoot X shots in X time. Then again, I used a rental gun and didn't have a holster; would this make a difference, then?
Quote : | "i'd rather be judged by twelve then carried by six" |
No doubt, but if I'm gonna be judged I'm not gonna take any more chances than I have to with regards to legality. You should always at least have the basic four questions covered:
Was I in imminent danger? Would somebody of sound judgement have done the same thing? Did I instigate or provoke the confrontation? Did I use excessive force?
If the first two aren't "yes" and the second two aren't "no," your case for self-defense isn't air tight, and you can probably kiss your gun-toting privileges goodbye.
Given the choice between dying and going to trial, I'm sure I'd pick the trial. But if that is the case, I want to be able to say that I didn't do anything wrong. I'm sure that taking a life is no fun and I don't ever want it to come to that, but I'll be damned if I, a responsible gun owner, get punished for exercising self-defense.11/10/2005 12:28:09 PM |
colter All American 8022 Posts user info edit post |
Never just shoot them in the knee. who knows they could be on PCP and not realize the pain. Plant a few in his center mass, and make sure hes down and DEAD. anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. bullets are cheap.
I'd rather die than go to trial, but you're goddamn sure I'll take the other fucker with me
[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 12:46 PM. Reason : .] 11/10/2005 12:44:54 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "not to pull the gun out unless you plan to use it. if you aren't going to use it, don't pull it out. in addition, there is no such thing as a warning shot, never fire a "warning shot"...b/c you've already shot the gun in the eyes of the law" |
i'd amend that to "don't draw your weapon unless you're ready and willing to use it." but yeah, no warning shots.
Quote : | "an intentional shot to the knee will get you a nice lawsuit
with the reasoning being, if you didnt need to use deadly force, you shouldnt have been shooting at all the person shot could successfully argue that he posed no threat to life, and the shot in the knee proves it" |
exactly. if it's bad enough that you have to shoot someone, it's bad enough to justify a double-tap to the chest. plus, hitting someone in the knee under pressure might be easier said than done.
not to mention the fact that i only want one story told in the courtroom.11/10/2005 12:55:42 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
oh, if you can flee you are supposed to do that too
unless it is your home, your property or your place of business 11/10/2005 3:32:53 PM |