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CarlyAnne
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Does anyone know anything about advance payment.

I have a 15 year loan.

Last month, I paid enough to cover 2 months, they still expect me to pay this month. Is this common mortgage practice in North Carolina?

11/18/2005 3:51:12 PM

sober46an3
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Thats common practice everywhere. You are still expected to pay each month as long as you carry a balance. The more you pay in advance, then the quicker you pay off the loan....but its comes off at the end, not the next month.

11/18/2005 3:53:21 PM

jdlongNCSU
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i'm pretty sure that's a common practice everywhere... the extra that you are paying goes towards your principle, which in the end lowers the amount of interest you end up paying...

11/18/2005 3:54:03 PM

CarlyAnne
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I don't remember it being like that when we were in Boston. But then again, I wasn't paying it myself.

11/18/2005 3:54:38 PM

typhicane
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you did not pay for 2 months.

they think you paid 1 month + extra against the principle.

11/18/2005 4:00:26 PM

Amsterdam718
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that's common practice everywhere. you don't pay in advance unless you specify that the extra is going towards the principle.

11/18/2005 4:01:17 PM

theDuke866
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yep, the extra payment just went towards the principle.

not a bad thing.

11/18/2005 4:02:35 PM

CarlyAnne
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oh well

11/18/2005 4:04:20 PM

NCSUAli
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With my mortgage, any and all payments must be sent separately with the appropriate stub for the month. Theoretically, I could pay my entire year off in advance, but I'd have to send in 12 separate payments.

As everyone else said, what you did went toward your principle.

11/18/2005 4:05:27 PM

CarlyAnne
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Oh well. I don't care looks like I owe them money today!

11/18/2005 4:07:27 PM

sprinklerman
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All my payments are drafted.

metavante.com

11/23/2005 7:28:31 PM

Woodfoot
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alias

11/23/2005 7:31:13 PM

arghx
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11/24/2005 10:22:31 PM

Scuba Steve
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I don't think the word "CarlyAnne" and the word "serious" can be used in the same thread.

11/24/2005 10:24:07 PM

Wraith
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If you are so financially successful (as mentioned in many threads) why do you even have a mortgage? I would think that someone as rich as you would be able to buy the house up front.

11/24/2005 10:39:30 PM

agentlion
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"oh well"

don't be sad - this is a good thing. With your mortgage, you have to think long term. If you pay 2 months worth of principle in one month, then you essentially skip the next month's interest payment. But that doesn't mean that next month you don't pay anything - you just pay the amount that's required the month after next. If you were to consistently pay 2 months of principle every month, your mortgage would get paid off in 1/2 the time and save thousands in interest.

11/25/2005 1:22:51 AM

agentlion
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^ to expand on that further, you can look at some hypothetical amoritizaion schedules (which you should be very familiar with if you have any type of loan).

The first schedule here should be simple - you borrowed 1860 for a 12 month loan, and you're paying back in $310 monthly installments.


Month Prin Int.
1 100 210 = 310
2 110 200
3 120 190
4 130 180
5 140 170
6 150 160
7 160 150
8 170 140
9 180 130
10 190 120
11 200 110
12 210 100
Total 1860 1860 = 3720


You can see that by the end of the year, you've paid just as much in interest as you have in principle.

Now if you pay the next months principle every month, this is what your schedule looks like. The numbers in parenthesis in the "You Pay" section show which monthly payment of principle and interest that amount represents.


Due: You Pay:
Month Prin Int. In Mth. Prin. Int. Tot
1 100 210 1 100(1)+110(2) 210(1) = 420
2 110 200 2 120(3)+130(4) 190(3) = 440
3 120 190 3 140(5)+150(6) 170(5) = 460
4 130 180 4 160(7)+170(8) 150(7) = 480
5 140 170 5 180(9)+190(10) 130(8) = 500
6 150 160 6 200(11)+210(12) 110(11) = 520
7 160 150 Total 1860 960 = 2820
8 170 140
9 180 130
10 190 120
11 200 110
12 210 100
Total 1860 1860


So when you pay the next months principle every month, you see that your monthly payment does increase, but you cut your interest payments in half, and in this hypothetical example you only pay half as much interest. In real life, you would still cut the number of payments in half, but not the amount, because the payments decrease geometrically, not linerally, so at the beginning of the mortgage term you're paying a ton more interest than principle, then towards the end of the term the interest payments decrease sharply and the principle increases just as sharp.

If you can't afford to pay a full month's principle in advance every month (especially since they will increase towards the end of the term), you can instead just put on a flat additional principle payment every month - even paying an extra $50/month towards principle will help decrease significantly the total amount of interest you have to pay back and can take years off your total payback period.

In your case, if you paid two full months at one time, then you may be out of $600 or so right now, but you probably just saved yourself $1000 in interest and 3 months on your paypack period (just rough guesses), so you now have a 14.75 year loan instead of a 15 year loan.

11/25/2005 2:59:05 AM

MacGyver
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Loans are for losers. Real people buy shit.

11/25/2005 3:46:38 AM

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