salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Note: Jackson's comments appeared on the news a while back, but the comments were later removed from news websites, apparantly in the hope that it would be quickly forgotten. This was clearly an attempt by the media initially to smear Jackson, but for whatever reason they've backed off. Maybe they saw that it was backfiring.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3173995,00.html
Quote : | "Michael Jackson: Jews are like leeches
King of Pop allegedly blasts Jews on message recorded on former adviser's voice mail; Anti-Defamation League: He has anti-Semitic streak
11.23.05 Ynet
Michael Jackson may be fond of children, but he is apparently not very fond of Jews, according to an audiotape aired Tuesday on ABC's "Good Morning America" show.
The audiotape contains a message allegedly recorded by Jackson two years ago on the voice mail of his former adviser Dieter Wiesner. Referring to Jews, Jackson is heard saying that "they're like leeches…I'm so tired of it…They start out the most popular person in the world, make a lot of money, big house, cars and everything. End up penniless. It is a conspiracy. The Jews do it on purpose." According to the New York Post, one day before the audiotape was published Wiesner filed a USD 64 million lawsuit against Jackson for breaching a contract and fraud. This is allegedly not Jackson's first anti-Semitic remark. His song "They don’t care about us" includes the words "Jew me/Sue me/Everybody do me/Kick me/Kike me."
The ABC network reported that it did not verify with certainty that the voice heard on the tape is in fact Jackson's. His lawyers refused to respond.
The Anti-Defamation League's National Director Abraham H. Foxman said in response that "Michael Jackson has an anti-Semitic streak, and hasn't learned from his past mistakes, including the use of anti-Semitic epithets in a 1995 song he wrote." "It seems every time he has a problem in his life, he blames it on Jews. It is sad that Jackson is infected with classically stereotypical ideas of Jews as all-powerful, money-grubbing and manipulative," Foxman said in a statement." |
That's funny. The Jews are very powerful, greedy, and manipulative. And now Jackson's fortune is virtually gone, having been transferred to (Jewish?) lawyers.
But forget that. It's just all "anti-Semitism." People just criticize the Jews for no reason at all.11/28/2005 2:27:22 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Jews are very powerful, greedy, and manipulative" |
crazy and racist11/28/2005 2:31:33 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
OOOOO NOOOO!! SOMEBODY CALLED ME A "RACIST"!
11/28/2005 2:34:05 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
i know some jews that have no power, aren't greedy and can barely manipulate their cars let alone other people 11/28/2005 2:37:14 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Duh. Not all Jews are rich and powerful. It's an elite group of Jews that wield the power. 11/28/2005 2:52:00 PM |
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salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
11/28/2005 3:21:44 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Then why refer to them as "The Jews"? 11/28/2005 3:23:49 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Have you seen Mel Gibson's, The Passion? 11/28/2005 3:45:39 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
11/28/2005 3:50:49 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
It's enough to talk about them. Do we have to look at the ugly sobs too? 11/28/2005 3:56:26 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
11/28/2005 4:02:29 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/2460_12.asp
ADL TROUBLED BY ANTI-JEWISH LYRICS IN MICHAEL JACKSON SONG
New York, NY, June 15, 1995...The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today said it was deeply troubled by the anti-Jewish epithets in a song on Michael Jackson's new album, "HIStory."
Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director issued the following statement:
"We are deeply troubled by the anti-Jewish lyrics in Michael Jackson's new song, "They Don't Care About Us."
At best, if the lyrics were intended to be a protest against prejudice as Mr. Jackson claims, then they were inartfully crafted and can easily be misunderstood and misused.
At worst, his use of anti-Jewish epithets and stereotypes casts doubt on Mr. Jackson's explanation that his song was intended to be a statement against all forms of hatred. The words are hateful and hurtful, and hate is too serious a subject for subtleties. Why single out Jews?
We are also concerned that those involved in the production and marketing of the album did not object to this use of anti-Jewish language. We believe it is important for those producers now to speak out against this language and for Mr. Jackson to issue a commentary attached to the album and video.
Mr. Jackson is an influential personality and has a tremendous impact worldwide, especially on young people. His repeating of anti-Semitic epithets without a proper context can encourage their further use and serve to legitimize them."
He BETTER apologize!
....oh, he did...
ADL WELCOMES MICHAEL JACKSON'S DECISION TO REMOVE ANTI-SEMITIC LYRICS FROM SONG http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/2471_12.asp
I guess the jooz do have that kind of power after all.
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salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/13243949.htm
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ADL demands Michael Jackson apology for alleged remarks on Jews
ROBERT JABLON Associated Press
LOS ANGELES - The Anti-Defamation League on Wednesday demanded that Michael Jackson apologize for allegedly calling Jews "leeches" in a private telephone message that was recorded two years ago and has now surfaced in connection with a lawsuit against the pop star.
"Michael Jackson has an anti-Semitic streak, and hasn't learned from his past mistakes," said a statement issued by Abraham H. Foxman, the league's national director. "It seems every time he has a problem in his life, he blames it on Jews."
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He "hasn't learned from his past mistakes"? Sounds like Foxman is reprimanding a child. I guess he knows that apology will be forthcoming. See who has the power? If the ADL demands, you must comply.
[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 4:16 PM. Reason : `] 11/28/2005 4:16:07 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
I'd think this would be more of a crossroads for you.
I mean we know you hate jews, but don't you hate homosexuals too? Additionally, I thought the jews were in league with the homosexuals...are the not in league with gay pedophiles? 11/28/2005 5:55:31 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not all Jews are rich and powerful. It's an elite group of Jews that wield the power." |
Then why not just refer to them as "an elite group that wield the power"? What does there ethnicity have to do with it?
Secondly, what about the 10 richest people in the world, none of which happen to be Jewish? Aren't you secretly directing attention away from their corrupt activities by directing everyone's attention to Jews exclusively?11/28/2005 7:17:33 PM |
LadyWolff All American 2286 Posts user info edit post |
Why the hell does anyone care what Michael Jackson says? Child-molesting fucked in the head black boy turned white girl has-been? PLEASE!
You'll get more intelligent and educated statements from a homeless druggie. 11/28/2005 9:35:35 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
THIS IS IT, FOLKS
SURELY IT CAN'T GET ANY NUTTIER THAN THIS 11/28/2005 9:48:13 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
^^that pretty much said it all.
I think jews make the best comedians. Jerry Seinfeld. Larry David. Paul Reiser. ok..so maybe not paul reiser. 11/28/2005 10:45:23 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Secondly, what about the 10 richest people in the world, none of which happen to be Jewish? " |
That's intentional, actually.
For the sole reason that it can be brought up in a conversation and people will think "Oh, well there you go then. Jews aren't all rich -- look at this here top 10 list"11/29/2005 12:39:10 AM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
the real trick is number 11-292
ALL JEWS 11/29/2005 12:48:22 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
if jews had power ... we would have had a jewish president
if jews even had power in holywood, jon stewart would be running the tonight show 11/29/2005 1:25:12 AM |
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11/29/2005 2:17:31 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Secondly, what about the 10 richest people in the world, none of which happen to be Jewish?" |
Bill Gates is not the richest man in the world. Do you really think that a computer software maker and recent upstart is the richest man in the world? What about all the families in older and more established industries, such as the oil and banking business? What is Gates worth now? 40-50 Billion dollars? That's mere change when compared to the real richest people/families in the world.
The real richest people in the world like to keep a low profile. The elite (and primarily Jewish) families that own the international banks are the richest people in the world. The banks have their hand in everything, including governments, all corporations and companies, and most private real estate. The banks have virtually 98% of the population in debt and continually paying interest to them in their usury banking system. They are raking in trillions of dollars in interest per year. For example, the U.S. government is 7 Trillion dollars in debt to the privately owned "Federal Reserve Bank." The U.S. government has to pay approximately 250-275 Billion Dollars per year in interest alone on that debt.
The owners of the Federal Reserve Bank are a handful of other banks (all Jewish owned and controlled), including Rothschild Bank of London, Rothschild Bank of Berlin, Lazard Brothers of Paris, Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy, Warburg Bank of Amsterdam, Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Lehman Brothers of New York, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Goldman Sachs of New York, and Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Rockefeller family is major owner). The Federal Reserve Bank controls ALL other banking in the United States. Similar systems are in place in virtually all other economically and politically important nations (eg, the Bank of England was established and is owned by the Rothschild Family). Those nations that will not allow these private bankers to establish monopolies on the money (and therefore economy) end up on the "axis of evil" lists, like Iran, Iraq, and North Korea.
The richest family in the world is the Rothschild family. The Rothschild family is the "king" of all the banking families. They helped establish the other Jewish bankers, including Rockefeller, the Warburgs, Jacob Schiff, and many others. The Rothschilds are worth trillions of dollars.
And don't forget that the Rothschild and Rockefeller families established and still own the major oil companies. The Rockefellers founded and owned the Standard Oil company (which became Exxon and Mobil). The Rothschilds own British Petroleum (BP) and Shell. Those are just a few of the oil companies they own. They have consolidated their power in the oil industry and have a virtual monopoly.
[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 9:05 AM. Reason : `]11/29/2005 8:45:31 AM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
^ Joo Own3d everyone in this thread. 11/29/2005 8:48:46 AM |
hamisnice Veteran 408 Posts user info edit post |
^^None of that nonsense is true. First of all holding stock in the federal reserve is not like holding stock in a corporation in terms of control of the organization. You must simply hold stock to be a member meaning Bank of America, Wachovia, etc must own stock too to use the system.
You are relying on information that has been copied from chain emails on to dozens and dozens of websites and basing the factual nature of this information on the "volume" of sources that google yields you.
Who owns the Fed?
Quote : | "The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by the Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized much like private corporations—possibly leading to some confusion about “ownership.” For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold or traded or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, limited to 6 percent per year." |
Who owns the Fed?
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/steer/2004/1014.html http://minneapolisfed.org/info/sys/faq/frs.cfm#3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve#Criticism_of_the_Fed
[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 9:15 AM. Reason : links]11/29/2005 9:12:52 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
The "explanations" from the "official" sources you cite are the nonsense. The banking and financial world is full of lies, garbage rhetoric, and "inside" terminology designed to confuse the common people and keep them from understanding what is really going on. Common sense alone tells you that the Federal Reserve Bank must be privately owned. It cannot be a government entity. The U.S. Government cannot be 7 Trillion dollars in debt to itself. That makes no sense at all.
Then, if you know the history of banking (going back to the 17th century with the Rothschilds and before), you can begin to understand who dominates and controls the banking industry in the world. The book "The Creature From Jekyll Island" documents how Rothschild agents (Paul Warburg, Edward Mandell House , etc.) met to found the Federal Reserve Banking System. They gave the bank the name "Federal Reserve Bank" to fool people into thinking it was not a private bank, but part of the government. Then, the bill establishing the bank system was "passed" (rather, snuck) through Congress over the Christmas holiday recess in 1913 when only a very few Congressmen were even in Washington, D.C. World War One was instigated shortly thereafter in 1914 partly for the purpose of getting the United States government heavily in debt to the bank. 11/29/2005 9:31:00 AM |
hamisnice Veteran 408 Posts user info edit post |
You are confusing ownership of the Fed with control of the Fed. That makes a world of difference.
Lets say a couple of these Jews own very large banks, they will gain higher monetary payments in terms of strictly dollars but will not be paid any greater percentage than any other member bank.
Quote : | "Take a bank's total assets — vault cash, loans, investments, building, and equipment. Then subtract its liabilities — checking accounts, savings accounts, bonds. The difference is the bank's capital, which, in banking lingo, is another term for net worth. Multiply by 3% and that is the dollar value of the Federal Reserve stock a bank must hold.
The par value of the Federal Reserve stock was fixed by the Act at $100 per share.12 As a bank's net worth changes and deviates from the 3% requirement, its Federal Reserve bank issues it new shares or buys back excess shares — always at the $100 par value. If any bank joins the system, its district Federal Reserve bank issues new shares. If any member bank fails, its district Federal Reserve bank pays off the shares.
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So a larger bank will have to own a larger number of shares. How much does each bank make per share regardless of size?
Quote : | "Of course, stockholders in ordinary corporations can also hope for dividends. As the owners of the business, all profits belong to them. In most corporations, the board of directors decides if and when to pay dividends on common stock. But the Federal Reserve banks are different. The Federal Reserve Act fixes dividends at 6% per year.15 That is $6 per year per $100 share. Any additional earnings go to the U.S. Treasury." |
None of these translates to "control" of the Fed.
Quote : | "Each Federal Reserve bank has nine board members. They are divided into three groups. There are three Class A directors, three Class B directors, and three Class C directors
The Class A directors can be involved in the banking industry and usually are. The member banks are divided into three groups — large, medium, and small banks. While this is measured by their stockholdings, stock holding is proportional to net worth, which is closely associated with total bank size. The large banks elect one Class A director, the medium-sized banks elect another, and the small banks elect the third.19
Class B directors are elected in much the same way, except that none of them can be bank employees or stockholders. Each member bank gets one vote and the large, medium, and small banks elect one director each.
Class C directors cannot be involved in the banking industry either, but they aren't chosen by the stockholders. They are instead appointed by the Board of Governors in Washington D.C.20
To sum up, the stockholders of each Federal Reserve Bank elect two-thirds of its board of directors. They don't vote by shares, but rather each bank gets one vote. Bank size does influence voting, however, with large, medium, and small banks getting two directors each — one banker and one nonbanker.
For most corporations, the board of directors selected by the stockholders is free to choose top management. While the board of directors of each Federal Reserve bank chooses its president, that decision is subject to approval by the Board of Governors in Washington, D.C.21
There are seven members of the Board of Governors and they are appointed by the president of the United States with the advice and consent of the U.S. Senate. They are appointed for 14-year terms. The chairman is appointed by the president with approval by the Senate for a four-year term.22 The current chairman is Alan Greenspan.
The Board of Governors is clearly a federal government agency. Its members have substantial independence from the president and Congress because of their long terms — less than federal judges, but more than those serving on most federal regulatory commissions.
The Board of Governors dominates the twelve Federal Reserve banks. Not only does it appoint one-third of their boards of directors, it has an effective veto power over the selection of the twelve Federal Reserve bank presidents. " |
So to sum up, if the Jews are controlling the Fed, they are controlling it through whatever means they use to control the politicians because they dictate who runs the joint and holds the true control of the operations of the Fed. The "owners" do not run the show.
http://libertyunbound.com/archive/2004_10/woolsey-fed.html
^ These guys are anti-Fed but they still don't believe it is run by the "Jews"
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Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Jews are very powerful, greedy, and manipulative." |
Quote : | "Do we have to look at the ugly sobs too?" |
So how exactly are you not a bigot?11/29/2005 8:26:04 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bill Gates is not the richest man in the world. Do you really think that a computer software maker and recent upstart is the richest man in the world?" |
yea those computers will never catch on11/29/2005 8:43:35 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, there was never any money to be made in banking or oil, industries that started long before computer software came around 11/30/2005 8:18:22 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
So I guess it doesn't matter if you're black or white, but it does matter if you're a Jew 11/30/2005 8:30:43 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
NOT THAT WORD! OOOOOOO NOOOOO!
11/30/2005 8:36:00 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, how are you not a bigot? 12/1/2005 5:55:50 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, how are you not a bigot? 12/5/2005 12:50:32 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you really think that a computer software maker and recent upstart is the richest man in the world?" |
Well I mean it's not like pretty much everyone in the world has or has access to a computer, and it's not likepretty much every one of those computers runs a peice of software that costs hundreds of dollars.12/5/2005 2:47:47 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, how are you not a bigot? 12/6/2005 12:46:22 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
ttt 12/7/2005 2:17:34 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Can we get an answer? 12/7/2005 2:18:27 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
MJ is in on it 12/8/2005 9:59:21 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, how are you not a bigot? 12/9/2005 2:49:49 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, how are you not a bigot? 12/14/2005 1:15:18 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
ok, your trolling is blatatantly obvious here mr joshua
[Edited on December 14, 2005 at 1:16 PM. Reason : `] 12/14/2005 1:16:21 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Why can't you answer my question?
Why do have to try to dismiss me with slander? 12/14/2005 1:17:34 PM |