Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
unfortunately it looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old
HERE BE DRAGONS
[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 8:47 AM. Reason : http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1151AP_US_Iraq_Glance.html] 11/30/2005 8:46:21 AM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, finally! They wouldnt get out of the damn car and ask directions before and now they never will! 11/30/2005 10:09:17 AM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
11/30/2005 10:12:22 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Saddamists and former regime loyalists. They dream of restablishing a dictatorship. "We judge that few from this group can be won over to support a democratic Iraq, but that this group can be marginalized to the point where it can and will be defeated by Iraqi forces," the report said." |
IMO Rummy has overestimated this group from the beginning of our occupation. Any loyalty most of the Ba'athists had to Saddam was destroyed when they stopped getting paid and Saddam was removed from power. It is dangerous to operate on this assumption when most of the support for the insurgency is really founded on 1) resentment towards occupiers and 2) Sunni fears of living in a Shi'ite state.11/30/2005 10:36:39 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
This is good news, because the Israeli Roadmap worked out so well. 11/30/2005 11:48:43 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
http://maps.google.com 11/30/2005 12:38:19 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "IMO Rummy has overestimated this group from the beginning of our occupation. Any loyalty most of the Ba'athists had to Saddam was destroyed when they stopped getting paid and Saddam was removed from power. It is dangerous to operate on this assumption when most of the support for the insurgency is really founded on 1) resentment towards occupiers and 2) Sunni fears of living in a Shi'ite state." |
Yet the link points out that their assumption is that the rejectionists (the ones who fall under the two points you listed) are the largest group we're facing. While I do agree that we focused too much of our effort on this group, I do believe that prior to Saddam Hussein's capture and the death of his two sons, a revival of the Ba'athists was a very real possibility. It is true that many would ditch him the moment the dictator was disposed, but a lot of his key supporters, the ones who are likely to face war crimes charges, have played a big role in the insurgency. Maybe not directly in combat, but indirectly in training Sunni insurgents and organizing smaller cells. Most have probably been neutralized at this point, but they were the ones who most likely kicked off the initial insurgency.11/30/2005 12:51:51 PM |
spookyjon All American 21682 Posts user info edit post |
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. 11/30/2005 1:13:15 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
11/30/2005 1:18:35 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
FINALLY!
now they won't take that wrong turn at albuquerque like they always did 11/30/2005 1:31:50 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
man i love get your war on 11/30/2005 1:43:56 PM |