SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
...so far this season.
I should like, change my title to the Top 5 Guy.
Anyway, here is ze list. <For those of you that hates the NBA, stfu>
In no particular order...
Tim Duncan - The super glue that holds the titanic together.
Kevin Garnett - There's a reason he goes #1 on many fantasy basketball lists...he does everything for his team.
Rip Hamilton - He's stepped up this year as the offensive star. Very consistent.
Dirk Nowitski - He's played like an MVP so far, and Dallas' record has been somewhat surprising.
Steve Nash - No Joe Johnson, no Amare Stoudamire, no Q Richardson, and they've had a couple of injuries (Barbosa, for example) and they're still tearing teams up left and right.
Outside looking in..
Pau Gasol - Shaggy is playing great. Too bad he may never seen an all star game with all the power forward talent ahead of him.
Kobe - He's my boy, but even I can't put him up in the Top 5 because of his horrendous shooting percentage. If he shot closer to 50%, he'd definitely be up there (Heck, if he shot 50%, I'm sure the Lakers would be a couple games over .500)
LeBron - He doesn't have to work as hard with the improved talent around him.
D Wade - Has had to put nearly everything on his shoulders with Shaq out. Lucky for him Zo Mourning is a more than competent backup.
AI - Scoring leader always gets an "A" for effort (unless it's practice). Who knows where the Sixers would be without him. 12/7/2005 11:26:25 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Julius Hodge HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 12/7/2005 11:29:42 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
obviously you have failed to mention Richard Jefferson for what reason? 12/7/2005 11:34:32 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
DYLAN DYLAN DYLAN DYLAN DYLAN 12/7/2005 11:40:16 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Because I don't think he's one of the top 5-10 players in the league.
I do admit that having J Kidd and Vinsanity as teammates don't help much (Kinda like the whole Matt Leinart/Reggie Bush thing).
^ ITS BECAUSE HE SPITS HOT FIRE
[Edited on December 7, 2005 at 11:41 PM. Reason : .] 12/7/2005 11:40:44 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Tracy McGrady??? 12/7/2005 11:54:36 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
marcus camby is playing like a top 10 player
elton brand has 30+ points in his last 5 games
steve nash and shawn marion are also top notch players 12/7/2005 11:59:52 PM |
JRattB All American 2008 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Tracy McGrady???" |
[Edited on December 8, 2005 at 8:29 AM. Reason : ]12/8/2005 8:29:27 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37705 Posts user info edit post |
AI is avg 33 pts, 7.5 assts, 3 boards, 2 stls and only 2.5 TO's while shooting almost .500
if thats not top 5... 12/8/2005 8:44:34 AM |
package2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
sorry to steal your thread but, why is Shaq out / for how long? 12/8/2005 9:19:05 AM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
He sprained his ankle the first game of the season.
He should be playing again sometime in the next week (he's finally practicing now)
And kudos to Jerry Buss for getting rid of him, knowing that he wouldn't be able to last a whole season (he oughtta be with the kind of money he's getting paid..) 12/8/2005 10:50:54 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Rip Hamilton????
Garnett, Duncan, Iverson, Lebron, Kobe
Dirk doesnt play d, nash barely misses cause he cant guard anyone, gasol is having a good year but eh, wade is struggling a little thus far but he is nasty, mcgrady is hurt he doesnt count 12/8/2005 11:10:10 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "obviously you have failed to mention Richard Jefferson for what reason?" |
maybe because he's definitely not the best player on his TEAM, and probably not the 2nd best player
btw i saw NJ @ CHA live and in person last night so i'm going off recent data12/8/2005 11:16:29 AM |
jblee All American 1275 Posts user info edit post |
Kobe, Tmac, AI, Duncan, Garnett
Shaq(if healthy), Dirk, Wade, James, Pierce 12/8/2005 11:18:06 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
This year?
Duncan, KG, AI, Kobe, Lebron.
Marion, Nash, Arenas, Wade, Richardson, Pierce, Gasol, and Brand are all having really good years. I would usually put T-mac in there, but he's hurt. Marcus Camby is having a huge year...top 10-15 for the year. 12/8/2005 11:23:20 AM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Rip Hamilton??? " |
I can still remember two different occasions when he dropped 37 and 40 already this season. He's shooting over 50% from the field and leads the league in 3 pt percentage (he hasn't taken that many though).
It's just pretty watching him play.
Okay, now on second thought, I'd take him out of the top 5 and put Gasol in, instead.
I want to give more credit to AI, but his team's record is hurting his stock. And his team is too good to not be over .500 (especially in the eastern conference..)12/8/2005 2:09:29 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
ELTON BRAND 12/8/2005 2:22:41 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
best analogy i ever hear was that kevin garnett was a "lunchbox" player
like a blue collar lunch box type kinda guy, shows up everygame and plays as hard as he can day in and day out
i got mad respek for the guy 12/8/2005 2:35:24 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
^^ He's #12-13 on my list.
Didn't forget about him though. He's somehow got the Clip Clips to be the better team in Los Angeles over my beloved Lakers. 12/8/2005 3:11:22 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37705 Posts user info edit post |
you never said top 5 most valuable players
you said top 5 players
AI makes that cut every time 12/8/2005 4:05:36 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
Artest. 12/8/2005 4:11:26 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37705 Posts user info edit post |
artest is a great player
but he isnt elite like those that belong in the top 5 12/8/2005 4:12:44 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
i'd still throw shit at him.
then become rich 12/8/2005 4:14:16 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^
Well I did say "so far this season". In my eyes, I'm implying that team success has something to do with the best players. 12/8/2005 5:01:08 PM |
EazyE333 Veteran 422 Posts user info edit post |
if team success has something to do with it then there is no reason that Elton Brand is not in the top 5 ... he's having MVP type numbers and the Clippers are having their best start since the 70's 12/8/2005 9:40:48 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
Because Brand came from Duke, I'm naturally biased 12/8/2005 10:27:54 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
Elton Brand.......
..........the rest. 12/9/2005 12:03:23 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Iverson? 12/10/2005 11:32:30 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37705 Posts user info edit post |
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2fstatistics
all you elton brand fans get some help from this 'efficiency ranking'
Hollinger Stats: Player Efficiency Rating RNK Player GP Min FG% FT% TS% Ast TO Usg ORR DRR Reb PER 1 Elton Brand, LAC 22 39.8 54.1 77.3 59.7 9.6 7.6 23.9 10.8 18.8 15.1 28.79 2 LeBron James, CLE 20 41.3 49.0 78.6 58.9 14.4 9.9 30.1 2.0 16.1 8.8 28.46 3 Allen Iverson, PHI 23 44.1 45.0 79.3 54.3 18.4 7.4 32.6 2.1 7.0 4.6 28.07 4 Tim Duncan, SAS 21 35.8 51.8 68.4 55.9 13.6 10.1 25.0 9.8 28.7 19.7 27.75 5 Dwyane Wade, MIA 23 39.4 45.7 77.0 53.7 19.6 9.7 31.0 5.4 13.8 9.7 27.61
[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 2:00 PM. Reason : last column is efficiency rating]12/15/2005 1:59:25 PM |
EazyE333 Veteran 422 Posts user info edit post |
Brand is averaging 25pts, 10.6 reb (4 of them offensive), 2.75 blocks, 3 fouls and only 2 turnovers a game ... wow!
not only is he producing big numbers, but he's not turning the ball over 5 times a game like a lot of big names and he's staying out of foul trouble playing smart basketball 12/15/2005 6:37:04 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
if you read that article, Iverson has been downright amazing this year.
Man, I bet the Bulls are glad they traded Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler 12/15/2005 10:19:54 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
The Bulls thought they had the next best thing in Chandler and Eddy Curry (The Next Shaq) LOL. Now they don't have either one. 12/16/2005 12:37:45 AM |
GoPack26 All American 821 Posts user info edit post |
T-Mac and Iverson should be on that list. 12/16/2005 1:33:19 AM |
mdbncsu All American 4923 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you never said top 5 most valuable players
you said top 5 players
AI makes that cut every time
" |
regardless, if its was most valuable, AI would be #1 every time in my opinion
the Sixers would be about as good as the Hawks or Charlotte w/ out him12/16/2005 7:21:02 AM |
skumstea All American 541 Posts user info edit post |
LeBron Duncan Artest Amare Stodomire Garnett Iverson Kobe Nowitzki Wade
and the always forgotten because he plays for the Clippers- ELTON BRAND! (In no particular order)
[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 9:58 AM. Reason : .] 12/16/2005 9:55:21 AM |
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Smush Parker 12/16/2005 10:00:27 AM |
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Anthony? 12/16/2005 11:12:56 AM |