http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3569871

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"The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has filed a complaint against the North Carolina Board of Elections, asking a state superior court to void what the EFF calls an illegal certification of three electronic voting systems. "This is about the rule of law," EFF staff attorney Matt Zimmerman said in a statement. "The Board of Elections has simply ignored its mandatory obligations under North Carolina election law." North Carolina law requires the Board of Elections to review all voting system code "prior to certification." Ignoring this requirement, the Board of Elections on Dec. 1 certified voting systems offered by Diebold Election Systems, Sequoia Voting Systems and Election Systems and Software (ESS) without having first obtained the system code."

Reminds me of:
"The dead are rising! And they're voting Republican!" - Bart Simpson (episode where Sideshow Bob runs for Mayor)

[Edited on December 10, 2005 at 1:58 PM. Reason : +/-]

12/10/2005 1:57:54 PM

I've been in the EFF for 5 years, both when I was more conservative (in high school) and now, when im definately a solid liberal.

Its a really good group, I joined originally over the Napster issue. They've gone on to this voting stuff recently, so I've sorta lost interest, not really that interesting to me.

[Edited on December 10, 2005 at 5:13 PM. Reason : .]

12/10/2005 5:12:43 PM

This is one of my hot buttons. It's absurd that we are outsourcing voting with no real way to validate the totals other than a company saying "trust me."

12/10/2005 5:29:49 PM

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"They've gone on to this voting stuff recently, so I've sorta lost interest, not really that interesting to me."

are you fucking serious? jesus christ you really are that stupid. without legitimate elections EVERY OTHER issue you are "interested" in becomes completely meaningless

12/10/2005 9:52:13 PM

your trolling is too repetitive and predictable

12/10/2005 10:00:33 PM

stfu troll

without legitimate elections, it doesn't matter wtf you're campaigning for. without legitimate elections you can be an activist from here to eternity - won't matter a flip. this is the bedrock upon which our society is based. we can debate whether or not we should be currently concerned that our elections are illegitimate, but we can not debate the significance of the issue, in and of itself.

12/10/2005 10:06:11 PM

doesnt mean everyone has to be interested in the issue

12/10/2005 10:14:00 PM

well, whoever is not interested in it is completely missing the point and has no societal comprehension.

12/10/2005 10:16:52 PM

you can realize its an important issue but still not be interested in it

12/11/2005 1:04:04 AM

fucking troll. of course elections are important. ive declined in interest toward the organization over time since the Napster case died off. just b/c im not inspired to pick it back up doesnt mean i dont think legit elections are important. of course they are.

crime prevention is important, wouldnt you agree? well, why arent you a fucking cop then?

youre the guy who pulls out the obsolete Dixiecrat shit just to piss off Democrats anyway, so I really shouldnt be feeding you. But I did, so there.

12/11/2005 1:09:00 AM

now you're trolling me. Of course crime prevention is important - but its only important AFTER voting legitimacy has been secured and preserved.

so again, there's no excuse for not having an interest in the restoration/maintenance of legitimate elections

12/11/2005 8:06:58 AM

so how much volunteer work do you do for them

12/11/2005 8:45:33 AM

when did i ever say you should volunteer? all i said was you should be interested

you're doing a good job of trolling, here, if that's what you're trying to do.

12/11/2005 9:18:47 AM

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"without legitimate elections, it doesn't matter wtf you're campaigning for"

"Legitimate" is in the eye of the people. I have no problem with contracting out state responsibilities, especially in this case where the state has retained control over the contractor and required both parties have equal representatives on both the oversight comittee and the polling places.

12/11/2005 9:54:07 AM

^ that's fine.

Quote :

"we can debate whether or not we should be currently concerned that our elections are illegitimate, but we can not debate the significance of the issue"

12/11/2005 10:01:00 AM

so you dont care enough about it to help
don't you understand that its the most important issue and it underlies al the other issues. why aren't you helping out?

12/11/2005 10:41:57 AM

The plot thickens.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Diebold_CEO_resigns_after_reports_of_1212.html

[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 2:29 PM. Reason : +]

12/13/2005 2:29:14 PM

interesting/disturbing article:

Quote :

"There are three large companies that manufacture these touch-screens which are completely unreliable, easily hacked, provide no paper trails, and whose programming codes are kept a secret. Using these machines is tantamount to having a secret vote count. Now all this is bad enough. But what’s especially alarming is that all three of the companies that make these machines—Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia—all have longstanding, tight links to the Republican Party. They’re managed and run by highly partisan Republicans. It’d be no more proper if they were Democrats. The whole setup is completely unacceptable. And let me add that just yesterday there was an AP story that reported that four out of five voters will be voting on these machines [in the 2006 elections]"

http://www.guernicamag.com/interview/252/fooled_again/

2/25/2006 1:53:08 PM

Is there a choice not use the electronic machines?

2/25/2006 2:02:06 PM

it doesn't matter if you use it or not. If they are using them for fraud, all they have to do is add one more vote to their artifial total in order to negate your own "paper vote"

2/25/2006 3:41:32 PM

http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/1954/19421.html

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" The internal logs of at least 40 Sequoia touch-screen voting machines reveal that votes were time and date-stamped as cast two weeks before the election, sometimes in the middle of the night. "

There really is no fucking excuse for this.

NONE.

2/25/2006 6:22:36 PM