StayPuff All American 5154 Posts user info edit post |
They are complaining that Colorado didn't consider a black person to be their coach.
I understand trying to diversify coaching ranks, but if I wanted Coach A then why interview Coach B just because Coach B is black. I think it will hurts more in the long run because teams will just start interviewing black coaches just to keep the BCA off of their backs even though they would never consider hiring that guy. 12/17/2005 4:18:40 AM |
93formula All American 1338 Posts user info edit post |
I heard this discussed somewhere, I can't remember where, but the general consensus was that the majority of coaches today played in a league that was a white majority. Now the league is probably a black majority (I'm not sure, but seems like it) so as today's players get older there will be more and more black coaches getting positions.
But yeah, if a black coach is more qualified, then they should be hired, but not because they're black. The BCA is "trying" to promote diversity, but all they're doing is spreading the racial gap. 12/17/2005 7:27:40 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
ugh, not the race card again.
I'm so sick of this crap. Colorado hired the best candidate.... and he's white. They must be racists!
The only way to end racism is to shut the hell up about it and stop putting it in the forefront of the media. These people do more harm than good 12/17/2005 7:30:26 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Look at what Notre Dame did. I mean why consider anyone other than Weis? 12/17/2005 8:38:09 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
they're going about this the wrong way... people don't respond well to punishment, if they wanted to encourage schools to consider black coaches then what they should be doing is getting their PR people to issue statements doing nothing but praising Buffalo for hiring a black coach...
sure, it's a less prestigious program, and that's probably why they don't want to do it, but it'd be a better way of going about things and it would bring positive attention to the BCA, Buffalo, the NCAA, and the sport in general instead of just heaping more negative attention on it 12/17/2005 8:44:28 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
^good call 12/17/2005 8:46:15 AM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
If I'm a black coach, I wouldn't want to coach at Colorado anyway. The whole school is white, the only black students are the athletes. 12/17/2005 8:57:44 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
you are a black coach though 12/17/2005 9:03:59 AM |
Weeeees All American 23730 Posts user info edit post |
why can't we all just get along 12/17/2005 9:51:11 AM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
As a multiracial guy in a graduate school for Sports Management, I understand why the BCA would be upset about Colorado's quick decision. I defintely think the Buffs made a very, very great coaching decision. But the things that irks me is that, they should of atleast looked at ONE quality minority coach. If the Boise St. Guy is the best in the field of coaches than go for him(which he was at the time).
I always want the BEST candidate chosen for whatever position is out there, I dont care what color the person is...but some of you are NAIEVE, if you think race is not an issue when it comes to certain big time programs. For example, what if 99% of the big DI football schools had all minority coaches(even if some of the minority coaches were NOT thes best out there), and there was 1% of white coaches at D1 schools..., EVERY single while male at NCSU would be mad as hell if this were the case as much as you guys love NCSU football.........do you see why the BCA makes such a fuss that atleast one minority candidate is interviewed...there not saying the minority candidate is the best out there because they are minority, but atleast give them a solid chance to have their name on the table... AND THEN select the best candidate for the position.....and if he's white so be it..and if he's black so be it....I dont care if he's Indian ....just as long as the fucker can coach and recruit his ass off! 12/17/2005 6:42:00 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
one of these days, non-bl4x0rs are gonna start doing this 12/17/2005 6:50:26 PM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
Every fucking year this issue is brought up. Wouldn't the people who hire the coaches know better by now to at least ATTEMPT to interview a non-caucasian coach? 12/17/2005 7:17:02 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53076 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but some of you are NAIEVE, if you think race is not an issue when it comes to certain big time programs." |
care to call any of them out? nope, didn't think so *cough*bull shit*cough*
Quote : | "For example, what if 99% of the big DI football schools had all minority coaches(even if some of the minority coaches were NOT thes best out there), and there was 1% of white coaches at D1 schools..., EVERY single while male at NCSU would be mad as hell if this were the case" |
well, yes, considering that the population is 70% white, 25% black... other than that, if there were no qualified white coaches out there, I wouldn't give a shit, because I don't give a shit about race.
Quote : | "do you see why the BCA makes such a fuss that atleast one minority candidate is interviewed" |
yes i do, but it has nothing to do with the bull shit you just spewed. They make a big fuss because they are stupid and probably racist themselves.
Quote : | "AND THEN select the best candidate for the position" |
OR, we could just not waste everybody's time when we already know who we want and we want him because he kicks ass, not because he's white. personally, if I were a black coach I'd be pissed as hell to be the token black interviewee. I mean, if all we're going to do is just pick the white guy (under your previous assumption that some big time programs are racist), then what good does it do to interview a black guy? We're just gonna ignore him anyway.
Quote : | "and if he's white so be it..and if he's black so be it....I dont care if he's Indian ....just as long as the fucker can coach and recruit his ass off!" |
so... in other words, we should just go out and pick the best coaches we can find and put them in our pool of people to interview, regardless of their race.Quote : | "Wouldn't the people who hire the coaches know better by now to at least ATTEMPT to interview a non-caucasian coach? " |
or maybe those stupid niggers (cause thats what they are. they aint niggers cause they are black. they are niggers because they are stupid and complain about stupid shit all the time) would learn to shut the fuck up and produce a coach worthy of being interviewed. Nah, thats crazy talk, aint it!12/17/2005 7:28:10 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
Aaronburro.....after reading your post...WTF are you talking about..did you read anything taht was previsouly posted? How in the hell did you get admitted into NCSU...I mean honestly did you read ANYTHING that has previously been posted on this thread.....please just SHUT THE FUCK UP! U Make Wolfpack students look dumber than UNC people! 12/17/2005 7:38:07 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
99.9% of white people weren't considered also.
You don't see us whining. 12/17/2005 7:48:41 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
"Aaronburro"...and you call white people that complain about 'meaningless' stuff all the time..you refer to them as what?? 12/17/2005 8:20:50 PM |
CaptainBF Terminated 2633 Posts user info edit post |
I thought there were a lot of minority coaches, just mostly the smaller, more specialized of the coaching staff.
It kind of makes sense to me. The people with less athletic ability (da honkies) are going to find ways to compensate (play smarter). By relying on their brainpower, they become more mentally accustomed to the game, and therefore more mentally able to coach.
The people with more athletic ability (da blackamoors) are going to rely on their physical qualities. They find ways to become more athletic, making them better suited to trainers and position coaches, etc. 12/17/2005 8:39:27 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
nevermind
[Edited on December 17, 2005 at 9:31 PM. Reason : q] 12/17/2005 9:30:56 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53076 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "did you read anything taht was previsouly posted?" |
actually, yes I did. and I responded to every single bit of it. you, on the other hand, have done nothing but tell me to "shut the fuck up." what a stellar rebuttal that is, my friend.
Quote : | "and you call white people that complain about 'meaningless' stuff all the time..you refer to them as what??" |
I would call them "niggers" as well... but then again, show me some white people that complain about meaningless shit like this all the time, and I'll talk about them as well ]12/17/2005 10:17:59 PM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
this kind of stuff makes me want to kill kittens
just shut the fuck up 12/18/2005 8:07:30 PM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only way to end racism is to shut the hell up about it and stop putting it in the forefront of the media. These people do more harm than good" |
morgan freeman said about the same thing on 60 minutes last night....
also, aaronburro:
Quote : | "well, yes, considering that the population is 70% white, 25% black... " |
wrong, if you're talking about US population, and I assume you are. I believe at last census, it was more like 10% black, 11% latino. The 70% white thing might be correct.12/19/2005 9:29:18 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Colorado should have had the political savvy to understand you sometimes have to interview people to take off the political heat. Even if their selection process was fair and legit, sometimes you have to show consideration of others to illustrate the apparent legitimacy of the process.
That having been said, when will people realize the BCA is more of a union then a civil rights group? 12/19/2005 9:48:41 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But the things that irks me is that, they should of atleast looked at ONE quality minority coach." |
no, no they shouldnt.
this statement implies that they should interview them because they are a minority.
which is racist
which is bullshit, so fuck off.12/19/2005 10:43:31 AM |
dkake Veteran 177 Posts user info edit post |
where are the American Somoa coaches? 12/20/2005 5:35:36 PM |