I just watched the highlights from the NCSU/BC game tonight. ESPN showed mostly BC highlights, although we won by 18. BC played HORRIBLY tonight...but they're still getting the love and exposure on national TV.

1/10/2006 11:35:07 PM

because we play boring basketball

1/10/2006 11:36:03 PM

i wish they would never mention NCSU
that way threads like this would never spring up

1/10/2006 11:36:50 PM

What they did was try and make the game seem competitive. They showed highlights to imply we came out hot. Showed highlights to imply BC coming back. And then showed highlights to imply us pulling away.

1/10/2006 11:37:06 PM

pi master is correct

stop your whining

1/10/2006 11:37:38 PM

can we stop this....seriously....we just got blown out by a young tarhole team and beat an overrated BC team and we still think we deserve respect....if we keep winning, we'll get the respect...why dont you people understand that? We're the red headed stepchild to Duke and UNC...deal with it.

1/10/2006 11:38:21 PM

always the victim...

1/10/2006 11:38:37 PM

i'm surprised they showed our highlights before the unc highlights

1/10/2006 11:38:51 PM

yeah at least we're not Savannah State...I guess any love is good love

Remember, half of ESPN is ran by UNC grads...serious.

1/10/2006 11:39:31 PM

because Stuart Scott has a eye...

1/10/2006 11:41:57 PM

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"i'm surprised they showed our highlights before the unc highlights"

If you go to theACC.com, they have the #20UNC win over VaTech as the "Top Story". If you look under Basketball specifically they run GaTech over Centenary as the headline story. #18NCSU over #14BC is simply a blip on the sidebar.

Just thought it was funny. It don't mean shit, get over it.

1/11/2006 1:12:51 AM

hahahaha PWNT!

1/11/2006 1:16:52 AM

they dont give the hurricanes ne respect either

1/11/2006 1:19:11 AM

You guys bitch and moan a lot when it comes to recognition. Sounds like some of you have an inferiority complex.

I like it better when we fly under the radar.

1/11/2006 1:20:04 AM

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"You guys bitch and moan a lot when it comes to recognition. Sounds like some of you have an inferiority complex. I like it better when we fly under the radar."

Yeah, I stopped caring a long time ago. I just want us to keep winning...that is all.

1/11/2006 1:23:56 AM

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"Remember, half of ESPN is ran by UNC grads...serious."

Not true. Half of ESPN is ran by Syracuse or Ithaca grads...serious. Just because Stu went to UNC doesn't mean that UNC runs that joint. I know that you were being sarcastic, so yeah...it is what it is.

GG NCSU.

1/11/2006 2:07:08 AM

considering Stu does like 90% of sportscenter is why I said that, sarcastically of course.

But one UNC grad in a company is one too fxcking many.

1/11/2006 2:11:39 AM

Just for kicks, how would you all feel if there was at least one NC State grad working for ESPN and was on TV on a regular basis?

1/11/2006 2:16:07 AM

Terry Gannon is with ABC / ESPN. He doesn't do basketball much, though.

1/11/2006 2:18:54 AM

if there fans don't, why should espn?

1/11/2006 2:41:36 AM

"their"

1/11/2006 2:46:56 AM

Andy Katz just posted a great article :

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=2287910

1/11/2006 3:23:48 AM

Yep, good article.

1/11/2006 5:35:52 AM

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[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 7:44 AM. Reason : question answered, nevermind]

1/11/2006 7:37:48 AM

...
so did they change the highlight reel overnight? cuz i just watched it and it pretty well established that NC State dominated the game...

1/11/2006 7:40:43 AM

who are the hurricanes?

1/11/2006 7:51:09 AM

i saw the 11 oclock sportscenter last nite, and i thought the highlites favored us. they started off showing us jump out to a lead, then they showed a few BC highlites when they brought it to within 9 (showed a few 3 point shots)...and then they showed benermans (i thinks who is was) reverse dunk to finish it out.

i swear some people try to make something out of nothing.

1/11/2006 8:14:35 AM

I opened my Star-News (Wilmington) and was anxious to see the sports section to see what was written. I found UNC/VT on the front page, along with a Panthers/Bears article that took up almost the whole page. Where did I find a story about my Wolfpack's double digit win against a ranked opponent??? On page 7, the second to last page. The last page is full of advertisements. I was pissed. I have already written to the sports editor this morning and I'm waiting to hear back. I HATE the media.

UNC and their propoganda shall not stand forever! Viva Wolfpack!!!

1/11/2006 8:56:13 AM

^^^^ Yeah I just saw it and it was all State...Im pretty sure the version that repeats all morning is the one that is live at 2am, that might be the difference.

Also one reason the highlights had more BC in them originally may be because they are cutting as the game goes, rather than waiting until the game is over....with so many games ending around 11PM you cant wait until they are all over to edit.

1/11/2006 9:23:53 AM

^ true, and they probably also had to fill more time with the game then they would have for the 2am airing... so they have to drag things out a bit...

1/11/2006 9:30:06 AM

ESPN producers must read Tdub

1/11/2006 9:32:38 AM

^Riiiiiighhhtt.....

No. You can't read shit when you've got your head so far up Roy William's ass like ESPN does.

1/11/2006 9:50:53 AM

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"I found UNC/VT on the front page, along with a Panthers/Bears article that took up almost the whole page. Where did I find a story about my Wolfpack's double digit win against a ranked opponent??? On page 7, the second to last page. The last page is full of advertisements. I was pissed. I have already written to the sports editor this morning and I'm waiting to hear back. I HATE the media. "

This is most likely because the UNC/VT game was over before the State game started - when a game isn't over until 11pm, it's tough to write about it, have it editted, and make it a headline.

I'm not defending the Wilmington paper - but I don't blame their shafting State's game 100% on bias, they are just a low budget newspaper.

1/11/2006 9:59:20 AM

game ended at 11.... They had plenty of time. The other day they went to press with the story of 12 W. Virginia miners found alive and that story didn't break until about 12:30 or so. No excuse....

1/11/2006 10:06:12 AM

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"The other day they went to press with the story of 12 W. Virginia miners found alive and that story didn't break until about 12:30 or so. No excuse...."

I am going to assume you're being sarcastic, or know nothing of the newspaper/media business.

Breaking national news (12 miners in WVa) is much bigger news than an ACC basketball game.
The morning paper probably had the 12 miners being alive - because they weren't able to correct the story at around 3:30-4am when it changed.

West coast scores are routinely left out of newspapers on the East Coast because the games end after 11pm.

1/11/2006 10:13:05 AM

QUIT BITCHING ABOUT TRIVIAL, INSIGNIFICANT SHIT. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY. THE FRONT PICTURE AND ARTICLE IN THE ONLINE NEWS AND OBSERVER WAS ABOUT US. OF COURSE UNC IS GOING TO GET MORE PUB IN WILMINGTON AND ASHVILLE BUT WHO GIVES A SHIT?

GOD THIS FUCKING RIDICULOUS INFERIORITY COMPLEX NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP. HATING THEM IS FINE BUT PINING OVER EVERY INSIGNIFICANT SHIT DETAIL THAT HAPPENS IS GOD DAMN RETARDED.

/caps

[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 10:14 AM. Reason : F]

1/11/2006 10:13:29 AM

They have our final score. They have all of the box scores from the night. I'm just upset that NC State doesn't get more coverage in North Carolina. I honestly do not think this is trivial. It affects more than you might think. The more positive exposure NC State gets, the more interest we will get from local recruits and future students. NC State always gets second or third billing. Our win last night was much bigger than UNC's or the other story that took the front page. I don't get the Raleigh News & Observer, and I want to read stories about our basketball game. I don't really care about a Wednesday story on a game that won't be played until SUNDAY. Reading about the Panthers and Bears is not that vitally important that it takes precedence over a game that JUST HAPPENED.

Truth is, The Star-News had the information on the game. They chose not to put it on the front page with UNC's near upset to VPI&SU. They chose to put it on the LAST PAGE. That reaks of disrespect and bias. There's no doubt.

1/11/2006 10:30:01 AM

I happen to think the local NFL team in the playoffs is more important than a college basketball game, and I love college basketball.

1/11/2006 10:32:51 AM

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"They chose to put it on the LAST PAGE. That reaks of disrespect and bias. There's no doubt."

They had the First Page laid out by 9pm last night - just waiting to see if UNC/VPI won the game so the headline would be correct.
If you think any writers/editors are going to be working until after 1am on a Tuesday night just so they can put the bigger game on the front page - you are living in a dream world.

Had our game been at 7/7:30 you would have a valid argument. You don't and you look like a moron.

1/11/2006 10:37:11 AM

The online formats

News & Observer (Raleigh) - front page, lead story
News & Record (Greensboro) - front page, lead story
Charlotte Observer (Charlotte) - sidebar story (same as UNC -- Bobcats game was lead story)
Herald - Sun (Durham/Chapel Hill) - UNC has lead story/picture (State is second story)
Wilmington Star - you did this one already
Fayetteville Observer-Times - sidebar story (same as UNC -- minor league hockey lead story)

seems pretty equal to me. Those are the big papers in teh state..

1/11/2006 10:44:00 AM

1/11/2006 10:46:19 AM

^^^

[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 10:51 AM. Reason : ]

1/11/2006 10:50:52 AM

you people complain way too much

1/11/2006 10:57:10 AM

I've already talked to the editor at the Star-News. I am still dissatisfied with the coverage of the game in my local paper, but at least now I know why it wasn't covered as well. I still don't like the media and their blatant overshadowing of our win last night.

GO PACK!!!

1/11/2006 10:57:13 AM

you people complain way too much

1/11/2006 11:12:35 AM

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""I found UNC/VT on the front page, along with a Panthers/Bears article that took up almost the whole page. Where did I find a story about my Wolfpack's double digit win against a ranked opponent??? On page 7, the second to last page. The last page is full of advertisements. I was pissed. I have already written to the sports editor this morning and I'm waiting to hear back. I HATE the media. ""

Both were stories from the Associated Press. When AP is on deadline for a short recap, in most cases that includes games where press conferences are held after 11pm, it is expected to have a story on the wire less than 30 minutes after the conclusion of the game. Since the UNC/VT game was earlier, I'm going to guess that your paper was able to use the extended version of the story. If there is a day game, or an early game, where the writer isn't on tight deadline, usually there will be two stories written; one is a short, blunt recap of the facts, the other has a storyline and in more in depth.
It's not media bias, but merely a sad truth of the inductry...later games get the shaft because of deadline schedules on the East Coast. Exceptions are made when two teams are highly ranked...but usually, that's how it works as far as newspapers are concerned.

[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 11:18 AM. Reason : .]

1/11/2006 11:17:47 AM

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"but at least now I know why it wasn't covered as well."

What'd he say?

1/11/2006 11:20:43 AM

Thanks Tonia. I just don't like it when the Sports headline isn't the biggest or best story of the day. They could have even put the Sutter HOF story first (a good story in a town where baseball seems to be pretty important), but they chose "Tar Heels Shake Hokies" for top billing. I just didn't like State getting shafted all the way to the last page.

^to answer your question, here's part of the email.

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") Late games are tougher to put on the front page, especially when we have a choice of two good ACC games. The Patriots' playoff win on Saturday night, for example, also ran inside. It was big enough to be on the front, but because we got it late (anything after 10:45 p.m. is considered late for our first edition), it ran on an inside page. 3) We have expertise in this business on things most readers would have no knowledge of. For example, because Boston is a pro market, its AP writers are more focused on pro sports. Its college coverage is shoddy and slow. While waiting for that story for an inside page (7C, in this case), a page that has a later deadline than the front because it had no color elements, we almost were late. The story came more than an hour after the game ended. The one from Virginia Tech, where most of the Virginia AP focus is on college sports, was in 45 minutes after the game, and it was a 7:30 game. You will notice the N.C. State story had no photos with it. Same with the AP bureaus. The one photo we got was late and not very good. "

I wrote him back and thanked him for his response. Neil is a nice guy, and he always had really good articles when he was at the Herald-Sun.

I handled myself professionally in my correspondence with him, and I did not curse or say things that I will regret. I now have a better understanding and I am not as upset as I was initially.

[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 11:26 AM. Reason : ]

1/11/2006 11:21:32 AM

I don't remember the guy's name...but when I worked at State (now a little more than 3 years ago - damn I'm getting old), the ACC beat writer at the Star News was a UNC grad. He was pretty fair in coverage though.
Local games where the smaller city papers are able to supply their own writers get more coverage. No chance the Star News or Rocky Mount Telegram is sending someone to BC to cover the game.

1/11/2006 11:25:25 AM

We get no respect because everytime we beat a shit team, our entire fanbase emails ESPN, bitches for love, and then we go and lose the game they pay attention to.

1/11/2006 11:28:37 AM