thegoodlife3 All American 39310 Posts user info edit post |
you are not the home of the 12th man....
they are, so please calm down with the bandwagon
/rant 1/22/2006 10:24:16 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
thats a long commute to seattle 1/22/2006 10:25:00 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
the seachickens are so fucking overfuckingrated. 1/22/2006 10:27:26 PM |
Specter All American 6575 Posts user info edit post |
those fucksticks 1/22/2006 10:28:03 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Trask Coliseum isnt that good of a venue... 1/22/2006 10:58:18 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39310 Posts user info edit post |
that might work if there was such a thing as the 12th man in basketball, but im afraid there isnt 1/22/2006 11:49:32 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the seachickens are so fucking overfuckingrated" |
hmm. so whats that make the panthers? backup dancers for the Steve Smith Show?1/22/2006 11:56:29 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you are not the home of the 12th man...." |
As a college football fanatic and closet aTm fan, this really pisses me off as well.
They aren't the 12th man. You can't just call yourself the "12th man" without some history there behind it. Texas A&M didn't just label themselves that. Just becuase you're loud doesn't give you the right to label your fans that....it might actually mean something if there was history behind why you would label your fans the 12th man like (gasp!) Texas A&M
Fags. Go Steelers1/22/2006 11:59:18 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
^^ essentially yes, although the defense is a lot better than they showed.
[Edited on January 23, 2006 at 12:00 AM. Reason : .] 1/23/2006 12:00:16 AM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
i now hate all seahawks...uncw included...even though trask is where NOONE wants to play. 1/23/2006 12:01:07 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you are not the home of the 12th man" |
ah so what. seattle seahawks retired the #12 jersey in 1983, and dedicated it to the fans. so thats over 20 years. maybe TAMU had it first, but no one around here cares much about Texas anyhow.
who's that big fuckwit from Texas, i forget his name.1/23/2006 12:02:22 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39310 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^exactly how i feel, which is why i made this thread. i too am a closet aTm fan
[Edited on January 23, 2006 at 12:03 AM. Reason : gahhh] 1/23/2006 12:02:52 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
and for the record, the history of TAMU's 12th man is fucking stupid
http://www.collegefootballhistory.com/texas_am/history.htm
At least the seahawks, 22 years ago, made a meaningful if somewhat sentimental gesture to their community by retiring the #12 jersey in honor of the fans.
TAMU tradition is just from some old geezer's recollection of some stupid thing the coach did once in 1922. 1/23/2006 12:06:40 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and for the record, the history of TAMU's 12th man is fucking stupid " |
Are you kidding me?
So a guy comes out of the stands nearly 100 years ago to help the team due to injuries, the students still stand to this day to symbolize thier willingness to become the 12th man, and every year the #12 jersey is reserved for a senior scout team walk-on (A Rudy, if you will) to wear and dress out for all of the games.... and they coined the term
.... but it's cool for the Seatlle fucking Seahawks to retire a jersey, copy Tejas A&M, and call themselves...personally even though no one else does.... "The 12th man"?
I see1/23/2006 12:13:31 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
a single, solitary teardrop just hit my keyboard.
thank you.
thank you so very much. 1/23/2006 12:26:21 AM |
Defenestrate All American 2158 Posts user info edit post |
PackBacker's right, shut your pie hole "mr. ambiguous"
what pro team can have pride in copying a college team, i mean really. 1/23/2006 12:54:44 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
hardly copying. we arent doign some fuckwit Rudy-esque thing. its acknowledging the regular contribution of the fans to the success of the team, and that the home team fans can truly have an effect on the outcome of the game.
And i'm done here. you go ahead and whine about Texas A&M all you want.
I gotta work on my super bowl plans. 1/23/2006 1:16:42 AM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
there is no such thing as a seahawks fan
seriously, i had never seen one before last week 1/23/2006 9:02:56 AM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
you know how bandwagons work. 1/23/2006 9:33:30 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i was wondering about something similar to that... i'd never heard anything about this "12th man" bs before this season... i'd also never heard ANYTHING about how loud seattle fans are before this season... this leads me to two possible conclussions, either A: the fans aren't really that loud but rather the stadium is designed specifically to focus a normal amount of noise directly on the field making it seem louder to the players (could explain the fuckwiddy design), or B: all of seattle is a bunch of bandwagoners who won't support the seahawks next year when they fall victim to the super bowl loser's curse 1/23/2006 9:40:02 AM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure people on the West Coast say the same thing about Panthers fans 1/23/2006 9:43:57 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
maybe, but what do a buncha left coasters know anyway 1/23/2006 9:52:38 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39310 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/news/story?id=2309668
who called it again? haha 1/28/2006 4:37:39 PM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " or B: all of seattle is a bunch of bandwagoners who won't support the seahawks next year when they fall victim to the super bowl loser's curse" |
I assume you aren't a Panther's fan. Because I recall the only time I EVER went to a Panther's game, the attendance was so pitiful that I was able to move up from my seats in the nosebleed section that I got off of E-Bay to 2 rows behind the players. I was there to watch the Patriots, and if I were to take a guestimate, I would say over 75% of the fans at that game were cheering for the Pats.
That being said, it was the first season the Pats won the Superbowl, and the Panthers were 1-15, and it was cold and rainy, so attendance like that is to be expected. My point is that, very few teams actually have fans who will fill the stadium on a consistent basis, no matter how bad the team is, and Carolina certainly isn't one of them. The fact is, most teams have a nearly identical fanbase, one that supports their team like crazy when they are winning and who's support/attendance dwindles after a couple bad seasons.1/28/2006 5:08:33 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
um, what? 1/28/2006 5:18:56 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hmm. so whats that make the panthers? backup dancers for the Steve Smith Show?
" |
maybe, but I'm not a panthers fan...1/28/2006 5:54:38 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39310 Posts user info edit post |
bttt for the game today 2/5/2006 11:48:38 AM |
davelen21 All American 4119 Posts user info edit post |
i can wait till this season is over with so the seahawks will drift off into non-existance again 2/5/2006 12:19:02 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
^
They might lose shaun, is the NFC going to get any better? Otherwise i think they could be good.
I would say the steelers are in worse shape, but bettis isnt good, and roth is much improved.
[Edited on February 5, 2006 at 12:22 PM. Reason : .] 2/5/2006 12:22:31 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
SUCK IT BITCHES 2/6/2006 2:41:36 AM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
I can see why TAMU fans would have issues with Seattle's 12th man, being that they were the "first".
Frankly, it's childish.
So you can't "call yourselves the 12th man if there isn't any history behind it." You could name a long list of coaches who pump their fans up by exclaiming that they are the "12th man" or the "6th man" when they give the occasional motivational speech. At every athletic venue, it is implied that the crowd is that 12th man.
We are the 12th man when we're at a football game. We are the 6th man when we're at a basketball game. Why else would we get so angry if we do a piss poor job of cheering or if we don't create an intimidating atmosphere, or if we're not loud enough to cause problems for the other team? The impact of the fan is huge. Coaches and players acknowledge it, which trickle down to our acknowledgement of it.
TAMU took an event that was special and made a tradition out of it. Good for them.
Seattle wanted to give something back to the fans, to show appreciation for what they do to help their team. Good for them too.
The biggest reason I can't give much sympathy for Aggie fans is the fact that Seattle's tradition has been around for over 20 years! So you wait over 20 years before you try to sue over a name because you're whiny about the fact that someone else calls themselves the 12th man? If they were really that upset about this, they should've complained and sued back then in 1983. Seattle gets some pub and the Aggies complain because they're bored from waiting for football season to start again. 2/6/2006 2:35:19 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
I think they did complain before this; something I read before said that aTm asks other sports orgs to drop the moniker, and they usually comply. The Seahawks organization hasn't as of yet.
In light of Seattle's success, the whole 12th man thing came to surface again (prlly would not have mattered if it weren't for homefield advantage), only Seattle is now more reticent than ever to give up the 12th man thing. 2/6/2006 5:02:39 PM |