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1/25/2006 11:33:49 AM

why did they never have shit like this when i was in school?

1/25/2006 11:38:20 AM

lol seems like this stuff is popping up every day

maybe i should put together my portfolio

1/25/2006 12:08:20 PM

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"why did they never have shit like this when i was in school?"

The internet didn't exist yet?

1/25/2006 12:36:24 PM

when I was in school and trying to get shit like this done, I litterally had the ITD group telling me that it was irresponsible to run PHP on such a shared resource like the unity web servers.

They told me to GTFO, and thats how ncsailing.org happened.

In short, they were scared of it "back in the day".

1/25/2006 1:20:22 PM

the real sad thing is that there are part-time jobs available for students like this which are not being filled....

another example... I need an intern in my office (note - in Charlotte/Matthews area) with basic VB.NET, ASP, and SQL abilities and as much general computer knowledge as possible to just help out, learn the business, and progress in their .NET and SQL skills while getting paid for it during school and we can not find anyone qualified or willing.....

[Edited on January 25, 2006 at 2:05 PM. Reason : lsajflasjfklasjhfklsajhf]

1/25/2006 2:04:37 PM

the problem is, everyone needs these people with such qualifications, but the schools don't teach application, only theory.

And everyone wants to pay 10-15 dollars an hour for a "student" rather than the 30-50 an hour that any normal professional in their right mind is worth.

1/25/2006 5:50:49 PM

^^
Tried posting at UNCC yet?

http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/corporate_relations/job_listings.php

1/25/2006 6:36:26 PM

^^with a computer science degree, picking up the skills is trivial and can be done in anywhere from 3-30 hours of self-teaching. if you just want a robot programmer who knows WHAT to code but not HOW to code WELL, then goto a community/technical college. many of them wouldn't know the advantages and disadvantages of a linked list over a hash table.

[Edited on January 25, 2006 at 7:01 PM. Reason : .]

1/25/2006 6:59:22 PM

haha, not in my experience. Practical experience with any language takes YEARS to become proficient.

1/25/2006 7:17:53 PM

yes the position I mentioned has been posted at UNCC - not within that listing on the Comp Sci site - but using their career center programs

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"the problem is, everyone needs these people with such qualifications, but the schools don't teach application, only theory. And everyone wants to pay 10-15 dollars an hour for a "student" rather than the 30-50 an hour that any normal professional in their right mind is worth."

I do agree with the application vs. theory part... which is why I am doing my best to spread the word about the internship opportunity at my company right now in this area. The fact of the matter is.. we understand schools will not teach everything you will need.

For a job like the one I mentioned you just need to have very basic skills.. no professional level requirements.. we want someone who can learn the business logic behind the global trade systems we deal with (not something you are going to get in school at all) while actually developing those professional skills.. and getting paid.. we aren't trying to exploit high level programming or some shit like that from a "student" and pay them peanuts in doing so.

I don't exactly see how $10-15/hr is bad for someone who just needs a very vague knowledge of the topics.. be a sophmore/junior.. be in a relative course of study.. and have the ability to actually learn. If someone would rather work in retail for the same pay (or less) without actually advancing their knowledge whatsoever.... so be it. Some places actually try to raise someone within the company.

Anyway.. hope it doesn't sound like I'm "advertising" this job here. I know the slim odds of getting a Charlotte employee on these boards.. otherwise I would have joined the trend of posting a job in my own thread. Just using it as an example within the thread hijacking conversation that we made.

1/25/2006 7:19:32 PM

Breezer: sorry I wasn't referring to your specific position, in fact, your's is absolutely the exception to my statement. It's VERY rare for companies to be looking for the actual student, versus looking for a professional who's willing to work for student wages.

Good luck with it man!

1/25/2006 8:23:15 PM

Yeah thanks - is all good... I know exactly where you are coming from. I wouldn't even have commented on it if I haven't been so aggrivated about having difficulties finding someone out here. It is one of the few opportunities I think would be fantastic for someone just reaching some of their more technical classes.... and so far nobody has filled the spot.

Plus I'm sure the fact that I really want someone to come in and help in my department ASAP plays a big part in my aggrivation

[Edited on January 25, 2006 at 8:50 PM. Reason : edit]

1/25/2006 8:50:38 PM